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SMU has to win against Houston and can only afford 1 more loss the rest of the season.
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i think this is the last acceptable non-houston loss smu can take ...

losing both houston games +the tourney loss would put them at 23-8..i think they get in as a last 4, last 8 bye type team

houston wins are the only way they arent sweating on selection sunday from this point on
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BREAKING NEWS: SMU officially changes their mascot from Mustangs to Bricks!
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(02-05-2022 08:09 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  BREAKING NEWS: SMU officially changes their mascot from Mustangs to Bricks!

I believe SMU will be pumped when they play vs. Houston on Wednesday, and that a Q1 win vs. Houston might be their ticket to the big dance.

It's not quite a "must-win" game, but it's close to being a must-win if they need an at-large bid. Hope they win it.

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(02-05-2022 07:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  This is my "How to Fix Wichita" to be atourney team next season

1) lose qua grant or porter. (or you can keep all but 1 becomes deep bench) - they arent bad, but we need to make room for 1 guard in the rotation, both are good but not indispensable

2) get a guard with legitimate scoring abiliy, and handles/ agiility to beat defenders (wichita has shown its capable of lending such players - etienne, grant sherfield types)

--- a major weakness is ability to create shots or great d, on a regular basis

3) this will be big one- get udeze to transfer out- no new player will ever jump with him what he has done, but his presence insures wichita will be undersized

4) get a legitimate 5 with size, 6'10+ can atleast defend and rebound-- scoring is a plus not necessity w/ pohto.. then rotate thhat big between pohto depending on matchup (offensive or defensive need)

--- wichita is undersized at the 4 and 5, should at least gett size at the 5

5) teaching Etienne what is a smart shot..

i think Wichita is a tourney team with those 5 steps..and i dont think too much for 1 offseason

We like Porter, Grant not so much but he could be a defensive sub.
Agree on Udeze. A lot of us are ready for him to move on and make way for Pohto plus another big. We need a transfer center that can back up Pohto.
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eye test no one thinks Memphis is legitimate (talking pollsters and likely committee)

but next week memphis has @houston, @cincy and @smu ..back to back to back. their current net is 69

memphis will have a good enough net if they go 3-0 in that stretch..then it will be about selling the narrative of needing deandre williams "and he was injured"... they are actually good enough, and he is back..and it will be about who buys that story
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(02-05-2022 09:54 PM)Shockem Wrote:  
(02-05-2022 07:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  This is my "How to Fix Wichita" to be atourney team next season

1) lose qua grant or porter. (or you can keep all but 1 becomes deep bench) - they arent bad, but we need to make room for 1 guard in the rotation, both are good but not indispensable

2) get a guard with legitimate scoring abiliy, and handles/ agiility to beat defenders (wichita has shown its capable of lending such players - etienne, grant sherfield types)

--- a major weakness is ability to create shots or great d, on a regular basis

3) this will be big one- get udeze to transfer out- no new player will ever jump with him what he has done, but his presence insures wichita will be undersized

4) get a legitimate 5 with size, 6'10+ can atleast defend and rebound-- scoring is a plus not necessity w/ pohto.. then rotate thhat big between pohto depending on matchup (offensive or defensive need)

--- wichita is undersized at the 4 and 5, should at least gett size at the 5

5) teaching Etienne what is a smart shot..

i think Wichita is a tourney team with those 5 steps..and i dont think too much for 1 offseason

We like Porter, Grant not so much but he could be a defensive sub.
Agree on Udeze. A lot of us are ready for him to move on and make way for Pohto plus another big. We need a transfer center that can back up Pohto.

my point with porter and qua is not that i think either are bad... but that your entire guard rotation is likely to come back and you someone to go to open up for improvement...

wichita main weakness on the perimeter is lack of a guard who can create offense outside of etienne (beyond catch and shoot) .. adding another real threat expands your offensive capabilities and would also remove the amount of eyes and bodies on Etienne

you need to make room for another guard, the standrad rotation is only about 5 guards per game...you have etienne, dennis, council, porter and qua...someone has to be removed --

and while i think pohto is your big of the future, i wouldn't put too much stock in him carrying too much weight next year.. i dont mean this in an insulting way but he is kinda soft..you probably need a bully-type rebounder rim protector ..while pohto bulks up and toughen up throughout his career.... i dont think you should be looking for pohto's back up, but someone that can take a starting spot (let them compete) if the goal is tourney for next season and not some multi year rebuild
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Good game UCF.










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(02-05-2022 09:57 PM)pesik Wrote:  eye test no one thinks Memphis is legitimate (talking pollsters and likely committee)

but next week memphis has @houston, @cincy and @smu ..back to back to back. their current net is 69

memphis will have a good enough net if they go 3-0 in that stretch..then it will be about selling the narrative of needing deandre williams "and he was injured"... they are actually good enough, and he is back..and it will be about who buys that story

Memphis wins those 3 games they will be fine as long as they win the rest of the games they are favored in (WSU, @USF, TEMPLE)...There would be no need to sell anything.

They would be @ home against Houston to go undefeated the remainder of the season

Is it likely they win those 3...Highly unlikey...
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I am pleased with the victory. I believe a nearly full roster was a key difference from the last game between the two squads.
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(02-05-2022 10:26 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am pleased with the victory. I believe a nearly full roster was a key difference from the last game between the two squads.

I think UCF and being at home helped...

Also the "Role" players continued to play as well as they have for a couple of games.
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(02-05-2022 10:26 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am pleased with the victory. I believe a nearly full roster was a key difference from the last game between the two squads.

Of course it was. Nobody will admit that though. Blows my mind.

Comparing our injury plagued season to Houston is not the same. Houston had two BIG injuries right from the get-go. They were able to form a new team that practiced together every day and were able to get into a rhythm.

Memphis can't get into a rhythm because we're like a revolving door of injuries. We are leading the country in the most starting lineups. It's crazy.

Three guys go down and three guys take their place. Two of the three guys come back and three new guys go down.

You're practicing with a different group of players all the time. It's a total momentum killer. It's been that way the whole season.

Memphis is celebrating having our team back tonight, and it's still a team without Emoni Bates. Been a crazy year.
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UC in reality is just not built to take on a Houston. Program that’s humming along with a toughness culture already engrained. But there are just 100 tickets left for tomorrows game, and student section is going to be nuts.

if UC can land the 2023 5 Star Guard who used an official visit for the Houston Game, then losing to Houston is absolutely worth it. I just wish we were wearing the throwback jerseys (tho I get saving them for Memphis)

I do think it’s a good match up for both teams. But the war will be won on the glass, and that’s a weakness for UC.

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(02-05-2022 10:46 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-05-2022 10:26 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am pleased with the victory. I believe a nearly full roster was a key difference from the last game between the two squads.

I think UCF and being at home helped...

Also the "Role" players continued to play as well as they have for a couple of games.


I think UCF is just in a major slump right now. Shot 21% from 3 against both Houston and Memphis. For UCF to even have a chance to win they have to shoot well from 3


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(02-05-2022 10:47 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(02-05-2022 10:26 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am pleased with the victory. I believe a nearly full roster was a key difference from the last game between the two squads.

Of course it was. Nobody will admit that though. Blows my mind.

Comparing our injury plagued season to Houston is not the same. Houston had two BIG injuries right from the get-go. They were able to form a new team that practiced together every day and were able to get into a rhythm.

Memphis can't get into a rhythm because we're like a revolving door of injuries. We are leading the country in the most starting lineups. It's crazy.

Three guys go down and three guys take their place. Two of the three guys come back and three new guys go down.

You're practicing with a different group of players all the time. It's a total momentum killer. It's been that way the whole season.

Memphis is celebrating having our team back tonight, and it's still a team without Emoni Bates. Been a crazy year.

thats not true, the bold part

every player on Houston except fabian white has sustain a major injury and most of the guards missed significant time

mark and sasser - out for the year

houston guards
- kyler edwards- missd 2 games on a bad ankle-- was supposed to be out a month but because of lack of depth played through it
- taze moore- had an unknown undisclosed illness than made him miss 3 games
- jamal shead- badly sprained ankle- originally ruled to miss 2 weeks, but miseed none (except the game he injured it in) and played through it because no one left, lack of depth
- Ramon walker- missed the 1st month of the season after having wrist surgery on shooting hand (injury was originally supposed to cause a redshirt)

that is EVERY guard currently active on Houston roster --

Samspon has noted seriously (not a joke) that if we get 1 more significant injury we are having tryouts with the football players
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Memphis fan rightly points to the crazy amount of injuries and random inconsistent lineups theyve had to start as a result...Pesik says ...NOT TRUE....
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(02-05-2022 11:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Memphis fan rightly points to the crazy amount of injuries and random inconsistent lineups theyve had to start as a result...Pesik says ...NOT TRUE....

i wasnt rebutting his Memphis point.. i was rebutting his comparison to houston..

youve become borderline miggy with your ridiculous takes .. i literally bolded the part i was responding too
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i literally wrote that Memphis has to sell to the media that the lack of DeAndre Williams was why they weren't playing to their potential and now he is back, like just 10 posts ago

clearly referencing that im aware they weren't a full-strength...

people with common sense (clearly not bearcatmark) would notice i was talking about him saying Houston situation was different and only had to deal with 2 big injuries and had time to gel ...i was stating that wasnt true
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(02-05-2022 11:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  i literally wrote that Memphis has to sell to the media that the lack of DeAndre Williams was why they weren't playing to their potential and now he is back, like just 10 posts ago

clearly referencing that im aware they weren't a full-strength...

people with common sense (clearly not bearcatmark) would notice i was talking about him saying Houston situation was different and only had to deal with 2 big injuries and had time to gel ...i was stating that wasnt true


Im still not buying it with Memphis. They have an embarrassment of riches. They have zero excuses when they place a talentless league like the American.


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