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I think there needs to be some guardrails put into place. What those are I don't know, but the coaches job just got a lot harder. I get the feeling coaches will have to "recruit" their own team every year to keep kids from leaving.

I still think the portal is a good thing.
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Texas State ceased recruiting High School kids and now only recruits the portal.
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In my opinion it is something that should have happened a long time ago. I agree with what CubanBull said earlier in this thread, the kids should have the same right of moving to a better situation, without penalty, as the coaches. Sometimes the fit just isn't right and the kid shouldn't be penalized because of something that's out of their control. Coach isn't giving someone playing time, fine, they can find a situation where they can contribute, immediately.
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I said earlier if schools can change conferences, coaches can leave before their contracts are up, then players should be able to transfer. But I should have added it will d
hurt the lesser programs because good players will always find a better home. So we'll feed the better P5s & steal from the lesser G4s. And the end result is it will make college FB unstable.
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(01-05-2022 07:35 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Big fan. Huge!

Our coach seems to know how to get everything he needs out of it. We filled a ton of needs and grabbed depth all over.

It’s gonna be a game changer for G5 schools. Kids don’t have to sit for years waiting to play at SEC schools. I think it’s gonna spread the talent around a bit.

There's some truth in that. The other side of the coin is that an outstanding G5 player is going to get recruited to portal on up to the P5.

The portal giveth, and the portal taketh away.
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The transfer portal has nothing to do with any of this. What you are referring to is the rule change to not having to sit out a year. The transfer portal is simply administrative website to facilitate paperwork.
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I look at as a shopping list for players not happy for one reason or another, whether it's be the coaching staff or playing time. If the team that you are own is loaded at your position, it's nice to review other options that may work better for you. I like the idea.
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What concerns me is what the combination of the new transfer rule and the NIL could do to collegiate sports. One or the other in isolation aren't nearly as much a worry as how the two of them in tandem could affect athletics.

The link below describes how Texas A&M spent an unfathomable $30 Million or so to effectively buy the #1 recruiting class. The coaching staff allegedly identified players they wanted, relayed those to a "point donor", and then that person would work with others to sponsor the targeted players, to the tune of $30 Million for their roughly 30 recruits.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/texa...nil-money/

NIL is the new kid on the block, and something that will have to be dealt with from this point forward, as there's not even a need to do anything under the table anymore. The biggest and richest schools, with their legions of old school booster money, can now literally and legally buy the best players.

But the other new kid on the block, as you guys know, is the new transfer rule which says you're now immediately eligible to play for your next school after your first transfer. I actually liked that rule until this whole NIL thing came into the picture. But what we're seeing now is an atmosphere where guys are putting themselves into the portal to see who'll offer them more. Those two new rules in tandem could turn collegiate sports into the Wild West, where kids start seeing themselves as hired guns going to the highest bidders. OU's starting QB recently put himself into the portal to see if anyone might offer him enough to entice him to play somewhere else, knowing he'd be eligible to play immediately at the next school. He also said though that he could still stay with OU.

So as we see this play itself out, the NCAA will need to take a look some things. They'll need to look at whether they should cap the NIL. Depending on how many guys start transferring, they should also look at whether they may need to revoke the new transfer rule and go back to requiring guys to sit out a year on their first transfer also. If it's not in place yet, they should also look at making it a requirement that if you put yourself in the portal, you MUST then go to a different school, and not just put yourself out there for feelers as OU's QB apparently has.

At this point, between the portal and NIL, there's really not much of a difference anymore between the NCAA and a professional league. The funny thing of it is that you know a certain number of these high-priced kids (whether transfers, or whether straight out of high school) will end up being busts professionally, meaning they'll actually make more playing in college than in the professional ranks. The sad thing though is that NIL and the transfer portal in tandem could be the final nail in G5's coffin, meaning a permanent and fully transparent separation of P5 and G5 may now be on our doorstep, ringing the bell. We've gone from P5's having the money to pay for the best facilities and coaching staffs, to now even having the money to outright buy all the best players. It hadn't been a fair playing field for decades already, but at this point, the deck is now just so stacked that it's almost hopeless unless other changes are forthcoming.
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(01-05-2022 12:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  My opinion: Overall is good. Player empowerment is good.

Even with the 2022 numbers looking bad for UCF. I am still pretty supportive of the transfer portal. UCF 2021 transfer portal added Bowser (UCF leading Rusher), BigKat (UCF Sack leader), and Brandon Johnson (UCF 2nd leading WR). UCF's 2021 team is lead by a lot of transfer portal additions.

2022 has been rough losing Dillon Gabriel (UCF Starting QB), Tatum Bethune (UCF leading Tackler), and Titus Mokiao-Atimalala (True Freshman WR and return specialist).

One of the more tragic stories has been Bentavious Thompson. He left the team in August. Didn't officially hit the transfer portal till October. Still sitting in the portal today. He's talented but he entered the portal mid season and it just seems like he's sitting around.

A lot of the guys leaving UCF weren't on the 2-deep. A lot of this might still be coaching transition stuff. DG wanted to be with OC Lebby. Bethune wanted to be with DC Randy Shannon.

I guess that makes sense that Bethune would want to work with Shannon. On the other hand, he was getting lots of playing time for us, was he not? I heard Mike Bianchi talk briefly about Bethune the other day, and he was confused by that move.
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(01-05-2022 11:49 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Curious on where AAC members stand on the Transfer Portal currently.

The Transfer Portal combined with NIL money seems to have created a lot more volatility.

As of 1/5/2021, according to 247 Transfer Portal 2022

Transfer IN (34 Total)
Cincy 2
ECU 4
Houston 1
Memphis 2
Navy 0
SMU 3
Temple 0
Tulane 4
Tulsa 1
UCF 4
usf 13

Transfer OUT and found new Program (23 Total)
Cincy 2
ECU 2
Houston 1
Memphis 4
Navy 0
SMU 1
Temple 5
Tulane 0
Tulsa 1
UCF 5
usf 2

Transfer OUT and hasn't found a new Program (50 Total)
Cincy 1
ECU 8
Houston 8
Memphis 5
Navy 3
SMU 0
Temple 2
Tulane 4
Tulsa 1
UCF 11
usf 7

I think it is less the Transfer Portal and NIL and more 1 free transfer.

I empowers the player.
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(01-06-2022 06:36 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
(01-05-2022 07:35 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Big fan. Huge!

Our coach seems to know how to get everything he needs out of it. We filled a ton of needs and grabbed depth all over.

It’s gonna be a game changer for G5 schools. Kids don’t have to sit for years waiting to play at SEC schools. I think it’s gonna spread the talent around a bit.

There's some truth in that. The other side of the coin is that an outstanding G5 player is going to get recruited to portal on up to the P5.

The portal giveth, and the portal taketh away.

I believe any player transferring to a P5 school should have to sit a year, anyone transferring to G5 or one of other lower divisions should be eligible immediately. This would help spread the talent & improve the quality of play In G5 as well as let the P5 schools turn loose of some of their redundant parts quicker & reuse the scholarship. This should eliminate the risk of G5 being a farm system, but to be honest I think that is a small risk but there may be some examples at 1st…..but this won’t happen since P5 & G5 are technically supposed to be the same.
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I hate it. I also hate freedom for others.
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(01-07-2022 03:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  I hate it. I also hate freedom for others.

Going to enjoy watching bama take your top player every year
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(01-06-2022 03:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Texas State ceased recruiting High School kids and now only recruits the portal.

Saban said he could pull 25 from the portal every year and win a national championship

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UC sent its backup QB to start in the MAC this past season. Hie entered the portal and is back at UC. Like our minor league.
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(01-05-2022 12:00 PM)Vonz90 Wrote:  It is what it is, and from a freedom standpoint I am all for it, but Navy will always only lose players (as will WP and AF). Kind of a bummer as we have enough difficulty competing for talent, but whatever.

Air Force and Army both won their bowl games against "P5" teams. So maybe our service academies can't get transfers in easily or redshirt people for years on end, but it didn't hurt them to play against schools who were hurt by players moving out or selecting not to play in hopes of playing for the NFL. I actually saw during the bowl games 6 and 7 year seniors playing.

I have never heard of a service academy football player opting out of not playing in a bowl game.

The transfer portal seems to be a "free agent" type of situation for college football and makes the FBS more and more a pro league.

I'm just a fan with no real knowledge of today's realities in college football. I guess that is why I love academy football. Still sort of old school athletics.
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Im not sure about it at this point. I expect the unintended consequences of this have yet to show up. Good or bad...it will completely change college football. I have a feeling that the G5 conferences are going to become the developmental league for college football...and I believe this is by design.
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It's the devil Bobby
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(01-08-2022 07:06 AM)USNA 77 Wrote:  
(01-05-2022 12:00 PM)Vonz90 Wrote:  It is what it is, and from a freedom standpoint I am all for it, but Navy will always only lose players (as will WP and AF). Kind of a bummer as we have enough difficulty competing for talent, but whatever.

Air Force and Army both won their bowl games against "P5" teams. So maybe our service academies can't get transfers in easily or redshirt people for years on end, but it didn't hurt them to play against schools who were hurt by players moving out or selecting not to play in hopes of playing for the NFL. I actually saw during the bowl games 6 and 7 year seniors playing.

I have never heard of a service academy football player opting out of not playing in a bowl game.

The transfer portal seems to be a "free agent" type of situation for college football and makes the FBS more and more a pro league.

That specifically, not that I know about, but we have plenty of other types of Opt outs. I had a classmate who had to quit the FB team as a condition for not getting kicked out at an academic board, he was a starter on the team. I knew another guy, also a starter, who quit the team midway through senior year to lose weight so he could service select as a Navy Pilot (I think they have a program so that is not a thing anymore, but not sure.) Then there are the various players who decide they will switch sports or just be Mids and screw sports, because their scholarships are not based on sports they can.

I am not saying that we cannot compete, or that I would change anything, but all of this works as headwinds.
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Idk about G5 being developmental league. I truly ga e a hard time believing these 4 and 5 star recruits who don't ay early are going to want to wait it out.

I do think some of the top dogs will transfer to P5 but how many of those do we get in the first place? Also why gamble your starting job away?
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