(08-20-2021 10:48 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:06 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't have a virus idiot, how can I spread it? If I was sick I'd f'cking stay home you brainwashed twit.

Your lack of knowledge on the subject is embarrassing.

Don't you know you could get the virus and not have any symptoms?

Your ignorance is putting your family and others in danger.

It's shameful.

Do you even read what you write? If you did and had any common sense it would be you who would be embarrassed.

You are chiding him for possibly having a virus that is so deadly and severe that he could have no symptoms and yet could be putting his family in danger. That would be no different than flu. Some are not bad off but if someone has comorbid conditions it could have a more severe effect on them. In other words it's no different than many of the viruses that have afflicted us over history.

That bullspit about asymptomatic spread of Covid has long ago been debunked dumbforth. It's actually YOUR lack of knowledge that is embarrassing.

(08-20-2021 10:58 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 10:48 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:06 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't have a virus idiot, how can I spread it? If I was sick I'd f'cking stay home you brainwashed twit.

Your lack of knowledge on the subject is embarrassing.

Don't you know you could get the virus and not have any symptoms?

Your ignorance is putting your family and others in danger.

It's shameful.

Do you even read what you write? If you did and had any common sense it would be you who would be embarrassed.

You are chiding him for possibly having a virus that is so deadly and severe that he could have no symptoms and yet could be putting his family in danger. That would be no different than flu. Some are not bad off but if someone has comorbid conditions it could have a more severe effect on them. In other words it's no different than many of the viruses that have afflicted us over history.

I am blown away at the stupidity of some people.

COVID is not any different than the common cold.

When have hospitals every been overrun from the common cold?

(08-11-2021 02:18 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has called out the CDC for being “anti-science,” and it looks like there’s one more thing that he could point to today that would support his claim.

There are two things that you look at when you are judging a virus — transmissibility and severity.

While the Wuhan coronavirus is quite transmissible, it’s not as severe in effect as, for instance, Ebola which has a far greater lethality.

But how transmissible is the new Delta variant that the Biden bunch are flipping out over?

The CDC claimed on July 26 in a slide show presentation that it was as contagious as chickenpox — one of the most contagious viruses ever.

Then, of course, the media spread that everywhere. Notice the assistance of Dr. Zeke Emanuel in promoting that claim.

Naturally, that makes people then overreact to the news.

But as NPR reports, this wasn’t true.

Evolutionary biologist and biostatistician Tom Wenseleers at the University of Leuven in Belgium explained the difference between the Delta variant and chickenpox transmissibility. The R0 or “R naught” is the number of people a sick person will infect, on average, when the entire population is vulnerable to the virus. For chickenpox, that number is around 9 or 10 people. For the Delta variant, it is less, he said — somewhere between 6 and 7. Still highly transmissible, and more than the original strain which was between 2 and 3, but not the same as chickenpox.

So how did they get this so wrong, saying it was “just as transmissible?”

For one, the leaked document underestimated the R0 for chickenpox and overestimated the R0 for the delta variant. “The R0 values for delta were preliminary and calculated from data taken from a rather small sample size,” a federal official told NPR. The value for the chickenpox (and other R0s in the slideshow) came from a graphic from The New York Times, which wasn’t completely accurate.

Whoops. Once again making comments and policy based upon something that’s just wrong and would justify more fear. So how are they being held accountable for spreading stuff like this that is just wrong?

Link

One more tidbit added to that long list of 'mis-information'...

Sorry CP your opinion on this simply cannot be true - if this was dis-information the Twitta and Facebook would have deleted all of this.

IT MUST BE TRUE ACCORDING TO THESE ARBITORS OF TRUTH

(08-23-2021 09:58 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 10:58 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 10:48 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:06 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't have a virus idiot, how can I spread it? If I was sick I'd f'cking stay home you brainwashed twit.

Your lack of knowledge on the subject is embarrassing.

Don't you know you could get the virus and not have any symptoms?

Your ignorance is putting your family and others in danger.

It's shameful.

Do you even read what you write? If you did and had any common sense it would be you who would be embarrassed.

You are chiding him for possibly having a virus that is so deadly and severe that he could have no symptoms and yet could be putting his family in danger. That would be no different than flu. Some are not bad off but if someone has comorbid conditions it could have a more severe effect on them. In other words it's no different than many of the viruses that have afflicted us over history.

I am blown away at the stupidity of some people.

COVID is not any different than the common cold.

When have hospitals every been overrun from the common cold?

Then you must be blown away every time you look in the mirror because there is no one that posts as much absolute nonsense as you do.

So, people are wigging about a LEAKED powepoint that clearly says: (CONFDENTIAL--preliminary data, subject to change)

And it is being discussed as if the CDC had some presser about it.

C'mon people.

(08-16-2021 03:08 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  At this point the CDC is less reliable than CNN. Try again.

You can't get less than zero!

(08-17-2021 09:45 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-16-2021 02:30 PM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 02:45 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 10:59 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:47 AM)banker Wrote:  Not to defend, by my guess is they simply don’t have enough data to create a definitive point, hence the range box and why the delta box is bigger than the original strain box. The delta box will get smaller as the data piles up.

What would be interesting is to see the early range of the box for the original strain to see which way it has been tightening. My guess is down and to the left.

Also note that they used a log scale on the death “Y” axis. That makes the grouping look much tighter than it actually is and make delta appear more deadly than it really is.

I agree 100%. We haven't had a pandemic in 100 years so mistakes are going t be made.

When Trump said he was going to take America back who knew this is what he meant?

Well if that's the case then it's common sense not to put something out there if they have no clue if it's true or not. They do it anyway to spread the fear. It's not that they aren't sure about the data, it's that they put that data out anyway.

Do you honestly think that the CDC is spreading wrong information to spread fear?

Why? What exactly does this do for them? Be specific. What is the end game?

Well, if it's not to spread fear, what other reason could the CDC have to spread wrong information?

Those on the left don't care about the means. They just want the end goals.