(06-22-2021 05:14 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 04:41 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I lived on the cheesy bean and rice burrito from Taco Bell for lunch. Not because I couldn’t afford anything else but because they were like fast food crack for me.

I’ve read that Taco Bell is probably the healthiest “fast food” restaurant out there.

My cat loves taco bell. That's the only people food she'll eat.


Hey, I wonder if that means something.

Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

I'm pretty certain the board predicted this regardless of wages...

burger flipper is only iconic in the land of warhol's quicksand...

(06-22-2021 10:05 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

I'm pretty certain the board predicted this regardless of wages...

burger flipper is only iconic in the land of warhol's quicksand...

This place has predicted everything that is happening.

(06-22-2021 03:00 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Dang, used to love the dollar menu back in the day. No surprise it is going away with people now demanding $15/hr to flip burgers.

"Democrats: Hurting poor people and the middle class...it's just what we do!"

Just wrapped up an overnight job and had 3 delicious $1 beef burritos from taco bell because that's only thing open besides ****** d's

While labor is no doubt a factor, the price of meat is as well. Meat is getting ridiculous, making me consider going vegetarian.. not really.

(06-22-2021 07:16 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 05:14 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 04:41 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I lived on the cheesy bean and rice burrito from Taco Bell for lunch. Not because I couldn’t afford anything else but because they were like fast food crack for me.

I’ve read that Taco Bell is probably the healthiest “fast food” restaurant out there.

My cat loves taco bell. That's the only people food she'll eat.


Hey, I wonder if that means something.

Be careful, a cat can become diabetic very easy if they eat bread or pasta. Their body does not react well and the older they get the worse it is.

Be sure they are only eating the meat portions.

(06-22-2021 02:49 PM)fsquid Wrote:  well after 30 years, its not that hard to imagine why they are going away.

Not to mention that several of them turned into things like "The $1.29 Menu" many years ago. I believe Wendy's went from $.99 to $1.29 in like 2006 and then included several items costing $1.99 in like 2013.

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

As I'm sure you aware, the dollar menu was nothing more than your traditional sales "loss leader." A lower price option to "get you in the door" that often lost them money so they can upsell you on more expensive items.

It's Sales 101. Been happening for decades.

(06-23-2021 06:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

As I'm sure you aware, the dollar menu was nothing more than your traditional sales "loss leader." A lower price option to "get you in the door" that often lost them money so they can upsell you on more expensive items.
It's Sales 101. Been happening for decades.

But an effective loss leader has to generate sufficient upselling to justify the losses. And there is a limit to how much loss they can generate. At $15/hour wages and tight margins to begin with, the economics simply don't work.

(06-23-2021 07:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-23-2021 06:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

As I'm sure you aware, the dollar menu was nothing more than your traditional sales "loss leader." A lower price option to "get you in the door" that often lost them money so they can upsell you on more expensive items.
It's Sales 101. Been happening for decades.

But an effective loss leader has to generate sufficient upselling to justify the losses. And there is a limit to how much loss they can generate. At $15/hour wages and tight margins to begin with, the economics simply don't work.

Yep, this is simply economic, loss leader or not. That was just an attempt to deflect from the wage increase anyway.

(06-23-2021 06:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

As I'm sure you aware, the dollar menu was nothing more than your traditional sales "loss leader." A lower price option to "get you in the door" that often lost them money so they can upsell you on more expensive items.

It's Sales 101. Been happening for decades.

Gasp! That doesn't fit their narrative. I appreciate you trying to educate these guys, every little bit helps.

Wendy's 4 for $4 is still essentially a dollar menu. Let's just hope they don't take away the free senior drinks.

(06-22-2021 05:12 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 04:48 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 02:45 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Will hurt the poorer the most. Suckers

Maybe it's a good thing. Perhaps it'll cut down on the number of fat people. Now they'll start eating healthy.


Bwahahahahaha, I was being sarcastic. Lazy people will not go near a stove and fix a meal, it's easier to go through the drive thru.

In some of the urban neighborhoods around Louisville there are “food deserts”. Many of the corner markets don’t even have fresh produce sections.

This. Even in Tulsa, on the north side of town, it's been considered a food desert for a long time. They've tried on a few occasions to open a grocery store in north Tulsa, but every single one has gone out of business in short order, due to rampant theft and crime.

They just opened another one, recently. I hope it makes it, but I'm skeptical.

There is one reason and 1 reason only why they are doing this...

It cost's them $15 an hour to pay someone to say "Do you want fries with that"....

(06-23-2021 07:50 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-23-2021 06:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

As I'm sure you aware, the dollar menu was nothing more than your traditional sales "loss leader." A lower price option to "get you in the door" that often lost them money so they can upsell you on more expensive items.

It's Sales 101. Been happening for decades.

Gasp! That doesn't fit their narrative. I appreciate you trying to educate these guys, every little bit helps.

They're beyond hope.

Most FF places are already paying workers around $10-11 per hour now if they have any sort of time on the job. And the $15 per hour targets are always for several years out...meaning a gradual price increase to go along with gradual wage increases.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

(06-22-2021 02:45 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 02:18 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Dollar Menus going away.


https://www.nbcnews.com/business/busines...SdoPx7GeZU

Understandable given that almost every one I drive by on the way to work have signs up stating "Help Wanted - $13.50 an hour for kitchen workers, 17 something for shift leaders".

I saw a McDonalds sign the other day that said "Help Wanted $10 Hr". lol....I suspect that sign will be up for a long long time.

(06-23-2021 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2021 07:50 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-23-2021 06:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 07:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Bottom line...You can't make a profit on dollar menu items.....when you have pay burger flippers $15 per hour. I have a neighbor that owns 2 McDonalds locations. He predicted automation and this would happen the second the wage justice warriors started their crusades.

As I'm sure you aware, the dollar menu was nothing more than your traditional sales "loss leader." A lower price option to "get you in the door" that often lost them money so they can upsell you on more expensive items.

It's Sales 101. Been happening for decades.

Gasp! That doesn't fit their narrative. I appreciate you trying to educate these guys, every little bit helps.

They're beyond hope.

Most FF places are already paying workers around $10-11 per hour now if they have any sort of time on the job. And the $15 per hour targets are always for several years out...meaning a gradual price increase to go along with gradual wage increases.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Target and Walmart, which offer better working conditions than a hot greasy kitchen--have been paying $15 to start for a while now.

(06-22-2021 05:12 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 04:48 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 02:45 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Will hurt the poorer the most. Suckers

Maybe it's a good thing. Perhaps it'll cut down on the number of fat people. Now they'll start eating healthy.


Bwahahahahaha, I was being sarcastic. Lazy people will not go near a stove and fix a meal, it's easier to go through the drive thru.

While eating fast food isn’t cheap and its certainly not good for you, eating healthy at home is even more expensive. That makes it even more difficult for poor folks to eat right.

I can only speak for Metro Louisville but vegetables are expensive here more than half the year. From October to May fruits and vegetables are trucked or railed in.

In the late Spring, through Summer and early Fall, you can get locally grown produce reasonably priced but that source isn’t available all the time.

In some of the urban neighborhoods around Louisville there are “food deserts”. Many of the corner markets don’t even have fresh produce sections.

It’s going to be a tough cycle to break when generation after generation of poor families have celebrated payday by taking the kids to McDonald’s for a Happy Meal.

This is baloney.

It is much cheaper to make yourself spaghetti & meatballs than to buy fast food. And healthier.

I used to house foreign exchange students for an ESL program (foreign kids learning English in the USA to prep for entering a US university). They paid me $400 a month to provide 2 meals a day. Most of the time I cooked for them because they liked it better than most takeout. After a few months I discovered that it only cost me about $100 a month per student - far less than the $400 they were paying me. So I started taking them to KFC once a week (all the Chinese students loved KFC for some reason).

If you're super poor: potatoes contain everything your body needs except calcium, vitamin D, and vitamin A. Potatoes are 1/3 the price today that they were 20 years ago (I used to buy them whenever they went on sale for $1 a pound, and today the regular price is $3.29 for 10 lbs). You could cut your food bill to $15 a week if you ate only baked potatoes with an occasional cup of milk. It would get old after awhile, but you'd be perfectly healthy.



And the concept of "food desserts" is leftist nonsense. For example: Google tells me the only place in greater Louisville that is farther than 2 miles from a Kroger is in a neighborhood called Rubbertown - and as the name implies, it's an industrial area with very few houses.

Most of the people talking about food desserts ignore any store not owned by a large national chain. And they also ignore grocers that serve poor people like Save-a-Lot (probably because it doesn't fit their narrative).