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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll
(05-20-2020 04:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:42 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-det...aseID=3661


Voters say 55-39% Biden would be doing better than Trump on the virus. Which makes no sense considering Joe would've let travel continue from China....?

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DEM 36%
REP 26%
IND 31%
OTHER/NA 7%

Ehh. More fake news. Only 26% Republicans in the poll. Nothing to see here. The only thing of interest in the poll was that 7% who apparently dont know what they are---but wouldn't define it as "independent". That is either a very odd 7% or a very stupid 7%.

Just an observation... If you were a greenie or a libertarian... or a Berniac... You might select 'other', but not consider yourself at all, independent. Others might always vote left or right, but be torn between say Bernie (or greenie) and Biden so they call themselves independent. The logic to reach that conclusion might not be valid, but it's also a way that a poll might misrepresent the break-out... either intentionally or not.

Over-sample 'other' or 'independent' in CA or NY and you're likely going to get a whole lot of people who would prefer Biden to Trump in everything.

Places like Quinnipac, especially this early... are looking for headlines... not predictions.
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https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/126...5965776896

IF ONE IS TRUE, THEN THE OTHER MUST BE FALSE
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll
(05-21-2020 11:40 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 04:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:42 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-det...aseID=3661


Voters say 55-39% Biden would be doing better than Trump on the virus. Which makes no sense considering Joe would've let travel continue from China....?

Cross tabs
DEM 36%
REP 26%
IND 31%
OTHER/NA 7%

Ehh. More fake news. Only 26% Republicans in the poll. Nothing to see here. The only thing of interest in the poll was that 7% who apparently dont know what they are---but wouldn't define it as "independent". That is either a very odd 7% or a very stupid 7%.

Just an observation... If you were a greenie or a libertarian... or a Berniac... You might select 'other', but not consider yourself at all, independent. Others might always vote left or right, but be torn between say Bernie (or greenie) and Biden so they call themselves independent. The logic to reach that conclusion might not be valid, but it's also a way that a poll might misrepresent the break-out... either intentionally or not.

Over-sample 'other' or 'independent' in CA or NY and you're likely going to get a whole lot of people who would prefer Biden to Trump in everything.

Places like Quinnipac, especially this early... are looking for headlines... not predictions.

You are absolutely right. They can’t be wrong at this point. Just peddling garbage to those that love to eat up the garbage.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(05-20-2020 07:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I don't know, today I got a call from outside ElPaso, maybe since I didn't answer they just assumed I wanted Biden. We know that they're crooked why would I put it past them?

I can make up numbers or lie....who goes to #muhpoles during a fabricated 'crisis'.... the commies commercialized are off the fk'n chain stupid with #muhfearmongrels

the question becomes,......peace sells, BUT WHO'S BUYING





addendum: you know who I put my money on....if I lose, fk id...
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

b/c 'they' said so....okey dokey...

talk about a case study in 'herding'....what a fk'n joke festival....

the masses and how they're corralled moving forward is the only masterbatation relative to consequence.....
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

Dukakis was up 17 over HW in August. And supporting Republicans didn't carry risk of harrassment back in 1988.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
National polls are useless. National polls correctly showed HRC would win the popular vote.

I only care about swing state polling and vegas odds predictions. $ talks and the midwest carries the hammer.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

bogus poll. Had a whole section pertaining to the "Russian payments to kill US soldiers". There is no evidence that even happened. It was never confirmed. But they are asking poll questions on it. 24% Republican-34% Democrat. So 42% more Democrats were polled as compared to Republicans and I'm supposed to give it weight. Out to be outlawed. Why not just ask only Democrats and show he has an approval rating in the single digits.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 04:04 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  National polls are useless. National polls correctly showed HRC would win the popular vote.

I only care about swing state polling and vegas odds predictions. $ talks and the midwest carries the hammer.

lmmfao....I win 1440.00 laying 300.00 in '16, and ewe're still posting....

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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
I'll bet 1 in 10 of those Biden respondents strut around in public with all their hoity toity friends badmouthing Trump... but when nobody's looking and they're alone in the voting booth they pull the lever for him.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 04:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

I'm not an optimist or a pessimist, but rather a realist.

Realism tells me that yesterday a seated Senator of 20 years got trounced because the President supported a football coach turned politician. The president supports GOYA and the whole liberal corporate onslaught is against them and GOYA sales go through the roof.

The Globalists lied about the polls for Hillary. They lied about the polls for Brexit. They lied about the polls for Teresa May, they lied about the polls for Boris Johnson and they are lying now. They do this by who they sample and how they set their margins for error.

The indications in the primaries held yesterday are that the president has lots of pull and that the Dems are badly divided. How does the Left try to silence that reality and convince their base they can win? By giving Biden another 4 points in a bogus poll. Why do they think this works? Because with the threat of COVID hanging over people's heads they think if they can convince the elderly that Biden has this in the bag they more conservative older folks will simply stay home rather than risk the virus. And they know their chickenshit supporters won't turn out if they don't think they can win, but if they think they have it they'll turn out to dance and taunt and riot and loot.

So in short the Press lies to us all trying to convince us the game is over before it is even played.

Piss on those loosers! They know Trump is up in reality but they'll never admit it. Our job is to press it home, appoint the next SCOTUS judge, and slam the door on their progressivism just as their old Hippie Commie Bastard Leadership is dying out!

The polls became close late in 2016 yes. But if this margin keeps up he’s not going to win. I’ll be voting for him and hoping for another surprise win.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 03:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

Dukakis was up 17 over HW in August. And supporting Republicans didn't carry risk of harrassment back in 1988.

I'm not going to go look, but I can't recall any incumbent that was "up" this early in the race. People want to make their Pols a wee uncomfy in the jimmies. They focus on the new shiny object (yea, I know, this one's 50+ years "new") and want to see them fight for their vote, even if they already know pretty damn well who they're voting for.

People, in the grand scheme, are pretty clever if not exactly smart. They want to see the candidate work, no coasting to a smug win. Knock em down a peg, whoever they are.

Anyone who actually believes Sloe coasts to a 15 pt win has completely lost their minds. Likely waiting for the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy to return lost their mind.

I see two probable scenarios here- Sloe wins in a squeaker led by the hangry Karen types storming out from their suburban McMansions.

Trump in a blowout. TYT's and mystified coastals completely melt down. Again.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 04:33 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

Dukakis was up 17 over HW in August. And supporting Republicans didn't carry risk of harrassment back in 1988.

I'm not going to go look, but I can't recall any incumbent that was "up" this early in the race. People want to make their Pols a wee uncomfy in the jimmies. They focus on the new shiny object (yea, I know, this one's 50+ years "new") and want to see them fight for their vote, even if they already know pretty damn well who they're voting for.

People, in the grand scheme, are pretty clever if not exactly smart. They want to see the candidate work, no coasting to a smug win. Knock em down a peg, whoever they are.

Anyone who actually believes Sloe coasts to a 15 pt win has completely lost their minds. Likely waiting for the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy to return lost their mind.

I see two probable scenarios here- Sloe wins in a squeaker led by the hangry Karen types storming out from their suburban McMansions.

Trump in a blowout. TYT's and mystified coastals completely melt down. Again.
I posted the demographics of the poll. Waste of paper. Who sits through 47 questions on a phone poll? Anybody that does that shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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RE: Biden up 11 points in newest Q poll (Update as of July 15th , Biden up 15)
(07-15-2020 04:51 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 04:33 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

Dukakis was up 17 over HW in August. And supporting Republicans didn't carry risk of harrassment back in 1988.

I'm not going to go look, but I can't recall any incumbent that was "up" this early in the race. People want to make their Pols a wee uncomfy in the jimmies. They focus on the new shiny object (yea, I know, this one's 50+ years "new") and want to see them fight for their vote, even if they already know pretty damn well who they're voting for.

People, in the grand scheme, are pretty clever if not exactly smart. They want to see the candidate work, no coasting to a smug win. Knock em down a peg, whoever they are.

Anyone who actually believes Sloe coasts to a 15 pt win has completely lost their minds. Likely waiting for the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy to return lost their mind.

I see two probable scenarios here- Sloe wins in a squeaker led by the hangry Karen types storming out from their suburban McMansions.

Trump in a blowout. TYT's and mystified coastals completely melt down. Again.
I posted the demographics of the poll. Waste of paper. Who sits through 47 questions on a phone poll? Anybody that does that shouldn't be allowed to vote.

The real issue is that no conservative wants to be harassed for their views and we've had plenty of that in previous elections and will have in this one. Conservatives tend not to put signs in their yards because they don't want cars vandalized or property damaged. They know who they are going to vote for and when I hear it's a poll I hang up. I made an exception the other day for one asking opinions on absentee ballots. I gave that pollster more than she wanted.

At one point they wanted to know my religion. The choice of Christian was in the mix and I saw no harm in acknowledging God. The next question is what set me off. She asked if I would describe my self as a "Born Again Christian" or an "Evangelical". 30 minutes later we got off of that asinine question after I thoroughly explained to her how everyone who calls themselves a Christian had to be Baptized which is the symbol of rebirth so all Christians who have received any kind of Baptism are essentially Born Again. She didn't know what Baptism was so i had to explain that to her as well. Then I let her know that it is the mission of all Christians to proclaim the truth of Jesus. Then I went into the explanations of why either of those terms is loaded as a liberal's label for Christians and how since both terms encompass something all Christians are today the terms themselves really represent an assault upon the Church and Christians in particular. Then I told her she was obviously conducting a poll that had about 8 loaded questions designed to create a poll result saying Americans were for unrestricted absentee ballots without witnesses, Notary, or Valid ID and that it was all designed to assist voter fraud.

That was pretty much the end of the discussion. But it is why the Left is able to claim any poll results they want to use for their purposes. It's all horseshit! And you are correct, sane people don't answer political questions over the phone. I was merely curious to know what the agenda of this poll was or i would have hung up on her in the first 5 seconds.
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Quote:A New York Times columnist has urged likely Democratic nominee Joe Biden not to debate President Trump in the fall. Most voters think that’s a bad idea, although only just over half believe Biden is even up to debating Trump given ongoing questions about his mental health.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 54% of Likely U.S. Voters think Biden is capable of debating the president. Thirty-six percent (36%) disagree and say he is not capable of such a debate. Another 11% are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

But then 38% of all voters, including 20% of Democrats, believe Biden is suffering from some form of dementia. Sixty-one percent (61%) think it is important for him to address the dementia issue publicly.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of voters think it is important for Biden and Trump to hold one or more televised presidential debates this fall, with 51% who say it’s Very Important.

Fifty-six percent (56%) believe it would hurt Biden’s candidacy if he refused to debate Trump. Only nine percent (9%) say it would help him, while 29% feel a failure to debate would have no impact on Biden’s bid for the White House.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted July 9 and 12, 2020 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Sizable majorities of voters in most demographic categories consider debates important to the presidential campaign this fall.

Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Democrats believe Biden is capable of debating Trump, but only 32% of Republicans and 49% of voters not affiliated with either major party agree.

Even among his fellow Democrats, a plurality (47%) feels Biden’s candidacy would be hurt if he refused to debate the president. Of course, that compares to 62% of Republicans and 60% of unaffiliated voters.

Voters who don’t think Biden is capable of debating Trump place a lot more importance on debates this fall than do those who feel he’s up to the challenge.

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So another of those highly inaccurate polling services shows Biden up by similar margin Hilldog had at this point and even days before election. I'm so impressed. 01-wingedeagle
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(07-15-2020 04:51 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 04:33 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-15-2020 03:39 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Update:

Up to 15 now

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/50...ipiac-poll


Concerning.

Dukakis was up 17 over HW in August. And supporting Republicans didn't carry risk of harrassment back in 1988.

I'm not going to go look, but I can't recall any incumbent that was "up" this early in the race. People want to make their Pols a wee uncomfy in the jimmies. They focus on the new shiny object (yea, I know, this one's 50+ years "new") and want to see them fight for their vote, even if they already know pretty damn well who they're voting for.

People, in the grand scheme, are pretty clever if not exactly smart. They want to see the candidate work, no coasting to a smug win. Knock em down a peg, whoever they are.

Anyone who actually believes Sloe coasts to a 15 pt win has completely lost their minds. Likely waiting for the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy to return lost their mind.

I see two probable scenarios here- Sloe wins in a squeaker led by the hangry Karen types storming out from their suburban McMansions.

Trump in a blowout. TYT's and mystified coastals completely melt down. Again.
I posted the demographics of the poll. Waste of paper. Who sits through 47 questions on a phone poll? Anybody that does that shouldn't be allowed to vote.


I don’t know how to dig into it on a phone, do you recall who these people allegedly were?

As in, eligible, registered or likely?

Makes a WORLD of difference from one to the next to the next. Eligible? Just throw it out. Registered? Marginally better. Likely? Ok, but only if the sample sizes are right, and they often aren’t. Like wildly aren’t.
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