RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 10:12 AM)stinkfist Wrote:
(04-30-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(04-30-2020 08:02 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: There are major Brady violations in this case. At a minimum that should allow him to withdraw his plea. At that point, the DOJ should drop the charges. This could be a case of malicious prosecution. I hope the DOJ does the right thing and drops the charges. If not, then the court may dismiss them due to the governments misconduct.
Not according to this former US Attorney.
nice one, barb(ie)...good fk'n luck with that posit after what's been revealed....
I'm gonna start callin' ya gilligan....the seig heil ZZ minnow is all ewe see....
oh yeah, why is she "former"?
I know unbiased sources are very hard to find but Barb McQuade? She may be right but then again she may just as well be hoping.
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(04-30-2020 08:02 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: There are major Brady violations in this case. At a minimum that should allow him to withdraw his plea. At that point, the DOJ should drop the charges. This could be a case of malicious prosecution. I hope the DOJ does the right thing and drops the charges. If not, then the court may dismiss them due to the governments misconduct.
Not according to this former US Attorney.
Actually the lie IS negated if the entire purpose of the interview was simply to trick someone into committing a crime. I believe that is the very definition of "entrapment". The fact an ex-DOJ official doesnt know this probably explains why they are no longer with the DOJ. Worse yet "lying" is often a subjective charge. That term could be applied to statements that are simply erroneous due to a faulty memory or due to a statement that simply is at odds with the recollections of another interview subject. "Lying" can be lots of things depending on what the DOJ wants it to be in a given circumstance.
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2020 10:57 AM by Attackcoog.)
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 07:48 AM)stinkfist Wrote:
(04-28-2020 03:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(04-28-2020 03:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: just damn......the Covington group who represented Flynn before being fired has just informed the court that they have discovered another 6800 documents. Probably because the DOJ forced the FBI to turn over additional documents, such as the "side agreement" between Covington and TeamTaint about not prosecuting FLynn's son, and Covington got busted not having everything turned over. The judge is not happy, and has ordered Covington to perform yet another search.
Not a laughing matter when it comes to Flynn, but damn people.
6800! more docs that oopsies, we somehow missed that entire tractor trailer assload of documents in the case we've been ordered to turn over.
Yea, nothing to see here. No truth to the stories of shady backroom dealing and a run away Bureaucracy that makes it up as they go along and don't think the rules should ever have to apply to them. Why? Well, *sniff* WE have a higher calling than you plebes.
GFY
if one doesn't understand how much more damaging this is than Watergate in scope, I'd prefer to just biatch slap their arse and wonder if the dipshite wanted a crotch shot for dessert...
this disgusted me back then....it still disgusts me today....
#incomprehensible
Sounds like Flynn will easily be able to cover his legal fees from his lawsuit against Covington.
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 10:49 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(04-30-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(04-30-2020 08:02 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: There are major Brady violations in this case. At a minimum that should allow him to withdraw his plea. At that point, the DOJ should drop the charges. This could be a case of malicious prosecution. I hope the DOJ does the right thing and drops the charges. If not, then the court may dismiss them due to the governments misconduct.
Not according to this former US Attorney.
Actually the lie IS negated if the entire purpose of the interview was simply to create a crime. I believe that act is called "entrapment".
Then there is also failing to advise him of his rights and coercing him to confess in order to avoid prosecuting his son. Those are directly applicable.
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
That all these things are still slowly trickling out makes me think the FBI needs to be burned down and start over. There are clearly many in the organization that are more committed to the organization than the constitution or justice.
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 10:49 AM)bullet Wrote:
(04-30-2020 07:48 AM)stinkfist Wrote:
(04-28-2020 03:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(04-28-2020 03:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: just damn......the Covington group who represented Flynn before being fired has just informed the court that they have discovered another 6800 documents. Probably because the DOJ forced the FBI to turn over additional documents, such as the "side agreement" between Covington and TeamTaint about not prosecuting FLynn's son, and Covington got busted not having everything turned over. The judge is not happy, and has ordered Covington to perform yet another search.
Not a laughing matter when it comes to Flynn, but damn people.
6800! more docs that oopsies, we somehow missed that entire tractor trailer assload of documents in the case we've been ordered to turn over.
Yea, nothing to see here. No truth to the stories of shady backroom dealing and a run away Bureaucracy that makes it up as they go along and don't think the rules should ever have to apply to them. Why? Well, *sniff* WE have a higher calling than you plebes.
GFY
if one doesn't understand how much more damaging this is than Watergate in scope, I'd prefer to just biatch slap their arse and wonder if the dipshite wanted a crotch shot for dessert...
this disgusted me back then....it still disgusts me today....
#incomprehensible
Sounds like Flynn will easily be able to cover his legal fees from his lawsuit against Covington.
regardless of the civil reward that's a 'given', for a man like him based on his service, it's something that will always be bitter 'til his last breath....
dirty politics is why I've abhorred such during my lifetime...this one was the beginning of the donks showing their 'true blue' after their 'anointed saint cank' got her poosy stomped in '16......
I've said it too many times.....back a dog in the corner w/o a reason to defend, and they'll come out 'biting' like none other....that's the opposite of my 'shake' on the pubs.....they just bend over or flip on their back and barely state, "whoofy woof"...
owl#s pegged it long ago...."evil party vs. stupid party"
#henceDJT
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2020 11:03 AM by stinkfist.)
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(04-30-2020 08:02 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: There are major Brady violations in this case. At a minimum that should allow him to withdraw his plea. At that point, the DOJ should drop the charges. This could be a case of malicious prosecution. I hope the DOJ does the right thing and drops the charges. If not, then the court may dismiss them due to the governments misconduct.
Not according to this former US Attorney.
She's wrong to the extent she claims there is no Brady material. The interview strategy portion is potential Brady material because it could demonstrate that the government was trying to set Flynn up. More important, are the agents notes that Flynn was truthful in answering question and did not lie. That's the primary Brady issue. And I'm a current not former prosecutor. Failing to turnover exculpatory information contained in investigation materials is a horrible Brady violation. Ms. McQuades argument is nothing but a straw man.
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2020 12:11 PM by Jugnaut.)
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(04-30-2020 08:02 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: There are major Brady violations in this case. At a minimum that should allow him to withdraw his plea. At that point, the DOJ should drop the charges. This could be a case of malicious prosecution. I hope the DOJ does the right thing and drops the charges. If not, then the court may dismiss them due to the governments misconduct.
Not according to this former US Attorney.
It is according to the current federal prosecutor who has stepped in to look into this. Thats who matters. Not some "former" hack.
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 12:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(04-30-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(04-30-2020 08:02 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: There are major Brady violations in this case. At a minimum that should allow him to withdraw his plea. At that point, the DOJ should drop the charges. This could be a case of malicious prosecution. I hope the DOJ does the right thing and drops the charges. If not, then the court may dismiss them due to the governments misconduct.
Not according to this former US Attorney.
It is according to the current federal prosecutor who has stepped in to look into this. Thats who matters. Not some "former" hack.
careful....you'll get rebuked by a donk that 'lurks'...
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
(04-30-2020 10:53 AM)bullet Wrote: That all these things are still slowly trickling out makes me think the FBI needs to be burned down and start over. There are clearly many in the organization that are more committed to the organization than the constitution or justice.
RE: Bartiromo - Flynn to be completely exonerated this week
Looking up Robert Kelner, Flynn's former lawyer, he testified against Flynn's partner!!!! Flynn was considered a co-conspirator. TOTAL conflict of interest. In addition, maybe the prosecutors made a deal with Kelner for his testimony. Sounds like those prosecutors' files need to be investigated along with Kelner.
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