(04-22-2020 11:55 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: Rumors circulating he's paid a lifetime membership to the Libertarian Party and will announce via extended interview with Reason.
If Trump is leading the polls in Texas by 10% or thereabouts, I will vote for Amash. If it's closer than that in Texas, I will vote for Trump.
Amash if I can, Trump if I must. I really prefer Amash, although I am somewhat concerned by his extended trip off the reservation in the last year, but my vote is not going to cost Trump Texas.
(04-23-2020 07:08 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: If Trump is leading the polls in Texas by 10% or thereabouts, I will vote for Amash. If it's closer than that in Texas, I will vote for Trump.
Amash if I can, Trump if I must. I really prefer Amash, although I am somewhat concerned by his extended trip off the reservation in the last year, but my vote is not going to cost Trump Texas.
I'm gonna try to determine which of the 3rd parties have the best chance at 5% and vote for them, same as I did in 2016. If there's even a shred of truth to the Jesse Ventura Green Party rumors that will be where my vote goes, simply to try to help make another party viable. If he doesn't and Amash has the chance at that I'll vote for him.
(04-23-2020 07:08 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: If Trump is leading the polls in Texas by 10% or thereabouts, I will vote for Amash. If it's closer than that in Texas, I will vote for Trump.
Amash if I can, Trump if I must. I really prefer Amash, although I am somewhat concerned by his extended trip off the reservation in the last year, but my vote is not going to cost Trump Texas.
I'm gonna try to determine which of the 3rd parties have the best chance at 5% and vote for them, same as I did in 2016. If there's even a shred of truth to the Jesse Ventura Green Party rumors that will be where my vote goes, simply to try to help make another party viable. If he doesn't and Amash has the chance at that I'll vote for him.
(04-23-2020 07:08 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: If Trump is leading the polls in Texas by 10% or thereabouts, I will vote for Amash. If it's closer than that in Texas, I will vote for Trump.
Amash if I can, Trump if I must. I really prefer Amash, although I am somewhat concerned by his extended trip off the reservation in the last year, but my vote is not going to cost Trump Texas.
I'm gonna try to determine which of the 3rd parties have the best chance at 5% and vote for them, same as I did in 2016. If there's even a shred of truth to the Jesse Ventura Green Party rumors that will be where my vote goes, simply to try to help make another party viable. If he doesn't and Amash has the chance at that I'll vote for him.
which will only yield, #DJT2020....
#enjoyChoice
That's fine with me, which is why I'm not worried about voting for Amash at this point. I could never vote for the Green Party, I don't care whom they ran. I vote on issues, not personalities, and there are virtually no issues where I agree with the Greens.
(This post was last modified: 04-23-2020 07:38 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
Justin Amash is no different than your typical politician whose goal is to elevate him/herself regardless of how it affects the rest of the country. IMHO, he would have preferred to stay in the GOP and boot Trump out of it. After his failed gambit with the Russian hoax, he had not choice but to jump ship from the GOP and hope for greener pastures with the LP. Within a year, he'll fade into oblivion.
Good to see that he's finally come to the conclusion that he's not a Republican since he never was. Of course that was likely the only way for him to get elected to begin with. So...
(04-23-2020 07:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Good to see that he's finally come to the conclusion that he's not a Republican since he never was. Of course that was likely the only way for him to get elected to begin with. So...
Just another shameless politician - just like every other one...
(04-23-2020 07:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Good to see that he's finally come to the conclusion that he's not a Republican since he never was. Of course that was likely the only way for him to get elected to begin with. So...
He has always leaned pretty hard libertarian. Republicans were a better fit for that than democrats, probably particularly in his district.
Will be interesting to see if he retains his house seat (if Michigan, like Texas, allows him to run for both). He's from a pretty libertarian-leaning republican district, so I would think he has a chance. What would really be interesting is if he could run, and won, and the HOR ended up 217-217-1.
(This post was last modified: 04-23-2020 07:42 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
(04-23-2020 07:37 AM)miko33 Wrote: Justin Amash is no different than your typical politician whose goal is to elevate him/herself regardless of how it affects the rest of the country. IMHO, he would have preferred to stay in the GOP and boot Trump out of it. After his failed gambit with the Russian hoax, he had not choice but to jump ship from the GOP and hope for greener pastures with the LP. Within a year, he'll fade into oblivion.
^^^^
every fk'n bit o' that....fk'n idiots....
(This post was last modified: 04-23-2020 07:43 AM by stinkfist.)
(04-23-2020 07:08 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: If Trump is leading the polls in Texas by 10% or thereabouts, I will vote for Amash. If it's closer than that in Texas, I will vote for Trump.
Amash if I can, Trump if I must. I really prefer Amash, although I am somewhat concerned by his extended trip off the reservation in the last year, but my vote is not going to cost Trump Texas.
I'm gonna try to determine which of the 3rd parties have the best chance at 5% and vote for them, same as I did in 2016. If there's even a shred of truth to the Jesse Ventura Green Party rumors that will be where my vote goes, simply to try to help make another party viable. If he doesn't and Amash has the chance at that I'll vote for him.
which will only yield, #DJT2020....
#enjoyChoice
That's fine with me, which is why I'm not worried about voting for Amash at this point. I could never vote for the Green Party, I don't care whom they ran. I vote on issues, not personalities, and there are virtually no issues where I agree with the Greens.
which is XACLY! why me, HoD, and UTSAMarine09 were the only ones to back #henceDJT out of the gate in '15 (on this board)....
I despise politics.....but you already knew that....
regardless, it's a two party system.....it doesn't matter if you like it or not....
what matters is when muh 3rd party becomes an issue relative to the 'whole'....ref: Perot = Billy Bob (which we both agree is the only dem in our lifetime that had a clue...that was pure luck)
in this case, it takes from the lefties of destruction....therefore, I'm cool with it...
(04-23-2020 07:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote: ref: Perot = Billy Bob (which we both agree is the only dem in our lifetime that had a clue...that was pure luck)
I'm a little older than you, so I would put JFK and Truman in the class of democrats who had a clue. But none of the current bunch. And even Bill doesn't sound much like President Bill these days.
(04-23-2020 07:08 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: If Trump is leading the polls in Texas by 10% or thereabouts, I will vote for Amash. If it's closer than that in Texas, I will vote for Trump.
Amash if I can, Trump if I must. I really prefer Amash, although I am somewhat concerned by his extended trip off the reservation in the last year, but my vote is not going to cost Trump Texas.
I'm gonna try to determine which of the 3rd parties have the best chance at 5% and vote for them, same as I did in 2016. If there's even a shred of truth to the Jesse Ventura Green Party rumors that will be where my vote goes, simply to try to help make another party viable. If he doesn't and Amash has the chance at that I'll vote for him.
which will only yield, #DJT2020....
#enjoyChoice
Which I don't care about. Didn't care when I voted Gary Johnson last time. I'd prefer Trump not be president in a perfect world, but I'm never voting Joe Biden after the sh*t they pulled in the primary. There's a better chance I actually just lean in and vote Trump if he just happens to let this crisis shift him to the correct position on health care (which I don't think is impossible actually).
(This post was last modified: 04-23-2020 08:04 AM by b0ndsj0ns.)
(04-23-2020 07:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote: ref: Perot = Billy Bob (which we both agree is the only dem in our lifetime that had a clue...that was pure luck)
I'm a little older than you, so I would put JFK and Truman in the class of democrats who had a clue. But none of the current bunch. And even Bill doesn't sound much like President Bill these days.
the Clinton of today is not the same from the 90s.....looking backwards, it's majik in dem terms relative to today....
and yeah, JFK and Harry did have a clue....it's a shame what/how the democratic party has evolved (into)....
(04-23-2020 07:08 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: If Trump is leading the polls in Texas by 10% or thereabouts, I will vote for Amash. If it's closer than that in Texas, I will vote for Trump.
Amash if I can, Trump if I must. I really prefer Amash, although I am somewhat concerned by his extended trip off the reservation in the last year, but my vote is not going to cost Trump Texas.
I'm gonna try to determine which of the 3rd parties have the best chance at 5% and vote for them, same as I did in 2016. If there's even a shred of truth to the Jesse Ventura Green Party rumors that will be where my vote goes, simply to try to help make another party viable. If he doesn't and Amash has the chance at that I'll vote for him.
which will only yield, #DJT2020....
#enjoyChoice
Which I don't care about. Didn't care when I voted Gary Johnson last time. I'd prefer Trump not be president in a perfect world, but I'm never voting Joe Biden after the sh*t they pulled in the primary. There's a better chance I actually just lean in and vote Trump if he just happens to let this crisis shift him to the correct position on health care (which I don't think is impossible actually).
agree....I'm hoping for the same from the most important potential 'lame duck' in U.S. history....
the only way it happens, is if the pubs regain control of the house...and even then, it's unlikely they get it 'right' in rd. 2 with full control....
(This post was last modified: 04-23-2020 08:12 AM by stinkfist.)
(04-23-2020 08:03 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Which I don't care about. Didn't care when I voted Gary Johnson last time. I'd prefer Trump not be president in a perfect world, but I'm never voting Joe Biden after the sh*t they pulled in the primary. There's a better chance I actually just lean in and vote Trump if he just happens to let this crisis shift him to the correct position on health care (which I don't think is impossible actually).
I'm actually glad about the stuff they pulled in the primary because it kept Bernie away from the nomination. I'll never vote for Biden, or any other democrat as long as their "progressive" (euphemism for socialist/communist IMO) wing is in power. I don't think Biden is anywhere remotely close to "moderate" but even if he were, he is obviously not man enough to stand up to the likes of AOC, Tlaib, Omar, and Pressley, not to mention Schumer or Pelosi.