(11-24-2019 01:38 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:49 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:41 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:36 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  Yeah, cause luck wins football games.

Hope that continues

If you were playing a team in the Weak East it might.

Cincinnati had a little over 200 yards and total offense yesterday lol.

7-0 in the aac. Style points not changing that.

I mean, sure... there are many reasons you can justify putting Cincinnati over Memphis. Better loss (OSU vs. Temple), record vs. common opponents, and conference record. Those are all valid metrics, but my eyes tell me that Memphis is a better team right now and I would consider Memphis the favorite on a neutral field. The fact the game coming up is on the road makes it even more skewed towards Memphis in my opinion. If I were a betting man and had no fan allegiance, I would put my money on Memphis all the way up to about a TD spread advantage -- although I think the betting line won't get that high.

(11-24-2019 11:13 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  FWIW here are the Massey *composite* rankings --

Memphis
Cincinnati
Navy
UCF
SMU
Temple
Tulane
Houston
Tulsa
USF
East Carolina
UConn

Looks good to me.

(11-24-2019 03:26 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:13 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  FWIW here are the Massey *composite* rankings --

Memphis
Cincinnati
Navy
UCF
SMU
Temple
Tulane
Houston
Tulsa
USF
East Carolina
UConn

Looks good to me.

Yeah, I'll go with that too.

East
Cincy
UCF
Temple
USF
ECU
UConn

West
Memphis
Navy
SMU
Tulane
Houston
Tulsa

1. Memphis
2. Cincinnati
3. Navy
4. SMU
5. UCF
6. Tulane
7. Temple
8. Houston
9. Tulsa
10. USF
11. ECU
12. UConn

Brilliant! What metric did you use?

(11-24-2019 03:37 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  East
Cincy
UCF
Temple
USF
ECU
UConn

West
Memphis
Navy
SMU
Tulane
Houston
Tulsa

Amazed at how many people in this thread seem to forget something...



USFFan

(11-24-2019 03:14 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 01:38 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:49 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:41 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Hope that continues

If you were playing a team in the Weak East it might.

Cincinnati had a little over 200 yards and total offense yesterday lol.

7-0 in the aac. Style points not changing that.

I mean, sure... there are many reasons you can justify putting Cincinnati over Memphis. Better loss (OSU vs. Temple), record vs. common opponents, and conference record. Those are all valid metrics, but my eyes tell me that Memphis is a better team right now and I would consider Memphis the favorite on a neutral field. The fact the game coming up is on the road makes it even more skewed towards Memphis in my opinion. If I were a betting man and had no fan allegiance, I would put my money on Memphis all the way up to about a TD spread advantage -- although I think the betting line won't get that high.

Free handicap advice. Solid.

(11-24-2019 04:50 PM)usffan Wrote:  Amazed at how many people in this thread seem to forget something...



USFFan

Basketball doesn't count.

(11-24-2019 03:14 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 01:38 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:49 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:41 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Hope that continues

If you were playing a team in the Weak East it might.

Cincinnati had a little over 200 yards and total offense yesterday lol.

7-0 in the aac. Style points not changing that.

I mean, sure... there are many reasons you can justify putting Cincinnati over Memphis. Better loss (OSU vs. Temple), record vs. common opponents, and conference record. Those are all valid metrics, but my eyes tell me that Memphis is a better team right now and I would consider Memphis the favorite on a neutral field. The fact the game coming up is on the road makes it even more skewed towards Memphis in my opinion. If I were a betting man and had no fan allegiance, I would put my money on Memphis all the way up to about a TD spread advantage -- although I think the betting line won't get that high.

The betting line is Memphis -11 in Vegas and -7 at OddsShark, as of this morning.

(11-24-2019 06:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 03:14 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 01:38 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:49 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  If you were playing a team in the Weak East it might.

Cincinnati had a little over 200 yards and total offense yesterday lol.

7-0 in the aac. Style points not changing that.

I mean, sure... there are many reasons you can justify putting Cincinnati over Memphis. Better loss (OSU vs. Temple), record vs. common opponents, and conference record. Those are all valid metrics, but my eyes tell me that Memphis is a better team right now and I would consider Memphis the favorite on a neutral field. The fact the game coming up is on the road makes it even more skewed towards Memphis in my opinion. If I were a betting man and had no fan allegiance, I would put my money on Memphis all the way up to about a TD spread advantage -- although I think the betting line won't get that high.

The betting line is Memphis -11 in Vegas and -7 at OddsShark, as of this morning.

I would have guessed around -5. But I believe -7 is more than reasonable based on what I've seen lately. -11 seems awfully high since UC has the defense to grind it out and slow Memphis to some extent, but regardless, I'm not feeling as optimistic as I'd like to as a UC fan.

(11-24-2019 10:31 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 06:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 03:14 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 01:38 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Cincinnati had a little over 200 yards and total offense yesterday lol.

7-0 in the aac. Style points not changing that.

I mean, sure... there are many reasons you can justify putting Cincinnati over Memphis. Better loss (OSU vs. Temple), record vs. common opponents, and conference record. Those are all valid metrics, but my eyes tell me that Memphis is a better team right now and I would consider Memphis the favorite on a neutral field. The fact the game coming up is on the road makes it even more skewed towards Memphis in my opinion. If I were a betting man and had no fan allegiance, I would put my money on Memphis all the way up to about a TD spread advantage -- although I think the betting line won't get that high.

The betting line is Memphis -11 in Vegas and -7 at OddsShark, as of this morning.

I would have guessed around -5. But I believe -7 is more than reasonable based on what I've seen lately. -11 seems awfully high since UC has the defense to grind it out and slow Memphis to some extent, but regardless, I'm not feeling as optimistic as I'd like to as a UC fan.

Memphis is 17-1 in our last 18 home games, going back to the end of the 2016 season. The one loss was by one point to #10 UCF in 2018.

(11-24-2019 02:39 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:15 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:12 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  UC - zero conference losses
Memphis - not zero conference losses. will be getting one more.
Navy - I guess I have to put you here. Still pissed at you about that ND thing.
SMU - you woulda coulda shoulda beat Navy.
Temple - You got nothing on us now. Eat that.
UCF - having your "I told you so" season that everyone, well, told you was coming.
Tulane - Nice improvement. You're no longer total nerds.
Houston - half a team only plays half a game every week. Did I hear you... won... yesterday?
Tulsa - I'm still on board with you even though you couldn't beat the quitters.
USF - Still think you would win against...
ECU - you almost lost to UConn dude.
The team that wants so bad to drive to basketball away games. - Losers.

LOL. Cincinnati has to be the luckiest football team on the planet right now:-)

Their arrogance is so unfounded and laughable.

I mean, we ARE still undefeated in conference. So it’s at least somewhat founded...

Memphis
Cincy
UCF
Navy
SMU
Temple
Tulane
Houston
Tulsa
USF
ECU
UConn

Tulsa has more quality losses than anyone in this conference. #TopFiveMaterial

(11-24-2019 10:31 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 06:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 03:14 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 01:38 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 11:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Cincinnati had a little over 200 yards and total offense yesterday lol.

7-0 in the aac. Style points not changing that.

I mean, sure... there are many reasons you can justify putting Cincinnati over Memphis. Better loss (OSU vs. Temple), record vs. common opponents, and conference record. Those are all valid metrics, but my eyes tell me that Memphis is a better team right now and I would consider Memphis the favorite on a neutral field. The fact the game coming up is on the road makes it even more skewed towards Memphis in my opinion. If I were a betting man and had no fan allegiance, I would put my money on Memphis all the way up to about a TD spread advantage -- although I think the betting line won't get that high.

The betting line is Memphis -11 in Vegas and -7 at OddsShark, as of this morning.

I would have guessed around -5. But I believe -7 is more than reasonable based on what I've seen lately. -11 seems awfully high since UC has the defense to grind it out and slow Memphis to some extent, but regardless, I'm not feeling as optimistic as I'd like to as a UC fan.

- 5 or 6 at game time imo.

(11-24-2019 01:48 PM)TheUnruly1 Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 12:54 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I don't know how anyone could rank Cincinnati ahead of Memphis if they've watched Cincy the last few weeks. Even as a die-hard Bearcat fan, Memphis is clearly a better team than Cincinnati.

1. Memphis
2. Cincinnati
3. Navy
4. SMU
5. UCF
6. Temple
7. Tulane
8. Houston
9. USF
10. Tulsa
11. ECU
12. UConn

A better offense. Better team? No.

So just for giggles...

Cinci Defense yards per game 365
Memphis Defense yards per game 361

Conference Games

Cinci 404
Memphis 389

Seems Cinci is going to need to force 3+ turnovers in order to defeat Memphis

1 Cincy




2a UCF
2b Navy



3Temple

4 Memphis
5 SMU


6 Tulane
7 Houston
8 USF
9 Tulsa

10 ECU










11 Usuck

(11-24-2019 01:01 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 12:54 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I don't know how anyone could rank Cincinnati ahead of Memphis if they've watched Cincy the last few weeks. Even as a die-hard Bearcat fan, Memphis is clearly a better team than Cincinnati.

1. Memphis
2. Cincinnati
3. Navy
4. SMU
5. UCF
6. Temple
7. Tulane
8. Houston
9. USF
10. Tulsa
11. ECU
12. UConn

Could be close Friday if it rains.

Rain is a possibility and that's no joke for us. We don't win in the rain. It hasn't rained yet in any of our games and that in of itself is lucky for us. I truly cannot remember the last meaningful game we won in the rain.......

For once, please let it stay dry........

TM

Memphis (18)
Cinn (19)
Navy (24)
SMU (25)
UCF
Temple
Tulane
Houston
USF
ECU
Tulsa
UConn