(11-05-2019 11:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 07:19 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 04:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Ironically, if Stoops leaves Kentucky for FSU, I could see them taking a gamble on Taggart. His WKU team beat Kentucky twice I think.

Wrong Stoops.... former OU coach Bob Stoops in negotians. He was gonna coach Dallas in XFL.

Bob was rumored to be in Tallahassee but he wasnt and yes, Stoops from Kentucky is being discussed. Bob is older and I doubt really wants to get back into the game. Coaching the XFL is super easy and a decent paycheck with almost no headaches... FSU is a monster pain-in-the-ass, which Stopps got tired of in Oklahoma.
OU is a better coaching job than FSU, and stoops didnt want it.

Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

FSU better go get an SEC coach if they wanna win big again. Clemson and FSU and the least ACC of all the ACC schools. They need to keep playing and recruiting and cheating like SEC schools if they wanna win big.

(11-05-2019 05:41 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 11:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 07:19 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 04:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Ironically, if Stoops leaves Kentucky for FSU, I could see them taking a gamble on Taggart. His WKU team beat Kentucky twice I think.

Wrong Stoops.... former OU coach Bob Stoops in negotians. He was gonna coach Dallas in XFL.

Bob was rumored to be in Tallahassee but he wasnt and yes, Stoops from Kentucky is being discussed. Bob is older and I doubt really wants to get back into the game. Coaching the XFL is super easy and a decent paycheck with almost no headaches... FSU is a monster pain-in-the-ass, which Stopps got tired of in Oklahoma.
OU is a better coaching job than FSU, and stoops didnt want it.

Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

(11-05-2019 09:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 05:41 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 11:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 07:19 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 04:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Ironically, if Stoops leaves Kentucky for FSU, I could see them taking a gamble on Taggart. His WKU team beat Kentucky twice I think.

Wrong Stoops.... former OU coach Bob Stoops in negotians. He was gonna coach Dallas in XFL.

Bob was rumored to be in Tallahassee but he wasnt and yes, Stoops from Kentucky is being discussed. Bob is older and I doubt really wants to get back into the game. Coaching the XFL is super easy and a decent paycheck with almost no headaches... FSU is a monster pain-in-the-ass, which Stopps got tired of in Oklahoma.
OU is a better coaching job than FSU, and stoops didnt want it.

Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

FSU is an elite job. Dont kid yourself. Clemson and FSU are ACC football.

Please, not Urban Meyer.

(11-05-2019 09:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 05:41 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 11:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 07:19 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Wrong Stoops.... former OU coach Bob Stoops in negotians. He was gonna coach Dallas in XFL.

Bob was rumored to be in Tallahassee but he wasnt and yes, Stoops from Kentucky is being discussed. Bob is older and I doubt really wants to get back into the game. Coaching the XFL is super easy and a decent paycheck with almost no headaches... FSU is a monster pain-in-the-ass, which Stopps got tired of in Oklahoma.
OU is a better coaching job than FSU, and stoops didnt want it.

Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

FSU is an elite job. Dont kid yourself. Clemson and FSU are ACC football.

and the U!

(11-06-2019 05:55 AM)RGVCoog Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 05:41 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 11:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Bob was rumored to be in Tallahassee but he wasnt and yes, Stoops from Kentucky is being discussed. Bob is older and I doubt really wants to get back into the game. Coaching the XFL is super easy and a decent paycheck with almost no headaches... FSU is a monster pain-in-the-ass, which Stopps got tired of in Oklahoma.
OU is a better coaching job than FSU, and stoops didnt want it.

Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

FSU is an elite job. Dont kid yourself. Clemson and FSU are ACC football.

and the U!

If you are referencing the small private school in Miami that won with thug mercenaries fueled by hookers and blow 30 years ago.....no, not elite.

(11-06-2019 05:55 AM)RGVCoog Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 05:41 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 11:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Bob was rumored to be in Tallahassee but he wasnt and yes, Stoops from Kentucky is being discussed. Bob is older and I doubt really wants to get back into the game. Coaching the XFL is super easy and a decent paycheck with almost no headaches... FSU is a monster pain-in-the-ass, which Stopps got tired of in Oklahoma.
OU is a better coaching job than FSU, and stoops didnt want it.

Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

FSU is an elite job. Dont kid yourself. Clemson and FSU are ACC football.

and the U!

U what? Miami? They don't even exist on the football map...as their last lone conf title came in 2002 when they were a member of the Big East.

Miami joined the ACC in 2004 and have won jack squat so not one HS player today has any memories of Miami Football ever being successful. Heck...in 16 years of ACC Football (obviously zero conf titles), Miami has won a total of just ONE Divisional Title.

U? U what?

(11-06-2019 08:58 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 05:55 AM)RGVCoog Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 05:41 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

FSU is an elite job. Dont kid yourself. Clemson and FSU are ACC football.

and the U!

U what? Miami? They don't even exist on the football map...as their last lone conf title came in 2002 when they were a member of the Big East.

Miami joined the ACC in 2004 and have won jack squat so not one HS player today has any memories of Miami Football ever being successful. Heck...in 16 years of ACC Football (obviously zero conf titles), Miami has won a total of just ONE Divisional Title.

U? U what?

Not a huge fan of the U, but when you win National titles you don't worry about winning the conference.

(11-06-2019 09:05 AM)bearcat29 Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 08:58 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 05:55 AM)RGVCoog Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

FSU is an elite job. Dont kid yourself. Clemson and FSU are ACC football.

and the U!

U what? Miami? They don't even exist on the football map...as their last lone conf title came in 2002 when they were a member of the Big East.

Miami joined the ACC in 2004 and have won jack squat so not one HS player today has any memories of Miami Football ever being successful. Heck...in 16 years of ACC Football (obviously zero conf titles), Miami has won a total of just ONE Divisional Title.

U? U what?

Not a huge fan of the U, but when you win National titles you don't worry about winning the conference.

Harvard & Army have won natl titles.....once you are 20 yrs from winning, you've lost it. Notre Dame on the clock.... the media prop-up will eventually end there too.

(11-05-2019 09:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 09:09 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 05:41 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 11:12 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 07:19 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Wrong Stoops.... former OU coach Bob Stoops in negotians. He was gonna coach Dallas in XFL.

Bob was rumored to be in Tallahassee but he wasnt and yes, Stoops from Kentucky is being discussed. Bob is older and I doubt really wants to get back into the game. Coaching the XFL is super easy and a decent paycheck with almost no headaches... FSU is a monster pain-in-the-ass, which Stopps got tired of in Oklahoma.
OU is a better coaching job than FSU, and stoops didnt want it.

Yeah but at FSU he can have significantly better talent than 90% of the teams on his schedule.

Stoops has been offered multiple head coaching jobs since he left OU.... FSU is a good job but it isn’t elite. He could have USC of he wanted.

FSU is an elite job. Dont kid yourself. Clemson and FSU are ACC football.

USC, Notre Dame, Texas, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Clemson.... those are elite. FSU is really good, but they arent ELITE.
Jimbo left because he couldnt get facilitites or administrative support. Its a smaller market team that has massive pain in the azz boosters.

Elite schools can land just about any coach, or at least have a real legitimate chance. Ask yourself, would an FSU coach leave for any of the teams I named above... the answer is yes.
Would any of the coaches of the teams above leave to come to FSU... the answer is no.

Maybe it's just me, but litigating who is or isn't "elite" or who is or isn't "relevant" is highly colored by each person's personal opinion, so it's almost like arguing politics or religion with others. You're never going to reach consensus. And it's always going to be in flux. We're not THAT far removed from the Alabama trifecta of Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula eras that would have prompted somebody to say that Bama wasn't elite. And I was in the stadium for a USF Meineke Bowl win over a Dabo-coached Clemson team not all that long ago. So maybe it's premature to be telling us that certain programs are washed up...

USFFan

(11-06-2019 10:33 AM)usffan Wrote:  Maybe it's just me, but litigating who is or isn't "elite" or who is or isn't "relevant" is highly colored by each person's personal opinion, so it's almost like arguing politics or religion with others. You're never going to reach consensus. And it's always going to be in flux. We're not THAT far removed from the Alabama trifecta of Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula eras that would have prompted somebody to say that Bama wasn't elite. And I was in the stadium for a USF Meineke Bowl win over a Dabo-coached Clemson team not all that long ago. So maybe it's premature to be telling us that certain programs are washed up...

USFFan

the money in coaching salaries has exploded in recent years to where poaching coaches from other Power 5s may not always be automatic.

But I agree that FSU is still a great job even if all the talk is of them being a mess right now. I think it's the best recruiting situation in Florida for various reasons. People have short memories that they carried the ACC for like 20 years

Lol at the u_f fans explaining how FSU isn't elite.

Adorable.

(11-06-2019 12:49 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol at the u_f fans explaining how FSU isn't elite.

Adorable.

Cute how a Memphis troll thinks he knows anything about Florida football... stick to your second rate barbecue kitty.

(11-06-2019 04:44 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  Please, not Urban Meyer.

Feel like he’s waiting for Notre Dame.

(11-06-2019 10:33 AM)usffan Wrote:  Maybe it's just me, but litigating who is or isn't "elite" or who is or isn't "relevant" is highly colored by each person's personal opinion, so it's almost like arguing politics or religion with others. You're never going to reach consensus. And it's always going to be in flux. We're not THAT far removed from the Alabama trifecta of Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula eras that would have prompted somebody to say that Bama wasn't elite. And I was in the stadium for a USF Meineke Bowl win over a Dabo-coached Clemson team not all that long ago. So maybe it's premature to be telling us that certain programs are washed up...

USFFan

I agree that it does change, but I am speaking of the reality that is NOW and not years in the past, since this conversation is about a position that is open...now. (and I never said washed up)

Like I said, not a single one of the coaches from those that I listed would leave their position to come to FSU.... but an FSU coach has already shown they will leave for better opportunities.

FSU isnt elite. They are a very good job and better than most of the P5, but that upper crust isnt something they have attained.

(11-03-2019 03:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Wow. FSU raised 20M in private donations to get rid of Taggart.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ie-taggart

FSU raised about $20 million in private donations to buy out what was left of Taggart's contract, sources told ESPN's Mark Schlabach.

(11-03-2019 03:58 PM)usffan Wrote:  

USFFan

Thread Win Awarded

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(11-03-2019 04:20 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  I cannot think that there has been a worse hire in the history of big time football. Taggart has hurt alot of people.

He's not a warlord....LOL

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(11-03-2019 04:29 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 03:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Wow. FSU raised 20M in private donations to get rid of Taggart.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ie-taggart

FSU raised about $20 million in private donations to buy out what was left of Taggart's contract, sources told ESPN's Mark Schlabach.

When you consider that freshmen and sophomores are frequently taught by adjuncts (I have read it's something like 50%) who are yearly contract employees and earn an average of $2500 per course with no benefits and who are eligible in many cases for food stamps, that $20 mill could go a long way. Administrative and consultant positions and salaries have soared along with tuition, but not for a substantial number of the folks who actually teach. I'm not including the increasingly small number of tenure track folks who make a fair living, but the adjuncts who teach as many hours but make a pittance in comparison and are basically reduced to casual or day labor.

Rant over. Sorry, but I couldn't ignore the issue--I've worked as an adjunct.

Back on topic as a USF poster said Taggert sounds like a real sleazeball. Too bad he's set for life. He needs to coach at a community college for $65,000 a year as penance.

Well there is a reason they ain't AAU...LOL

#Priorities.

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