(10-10-2019 10:24 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 06:35 AM)TheEndIsNigh Wrote:  You would think if somebody was going to start a troll thread it would be from someone that actually roots for a team. Whatever the have going on in West Central Florida can hardly be called a team.

I don’t see us catching Cincinnati at this point. Until Gabriel can knock off the freshman mistakes and maybe look for a pass that is not a bomb every play we will continue to be inconsistent on offense. However what I have seen from Gabriel makes me feel good for the next 3 years. So far the worst prediction I have seen in this thread is 8-4. I can’t complain much about a record like that. I bet USF would be happy with a 4-8 record at this point.

Love how a newbie UCF fan comes in here being bitchy about USF when the thread was started by a Memphis fan.

Gabriel isnt your issue. Your team has issues and Pitt exposed them, then Cinci used it to win. I can see maybe 1 or 2 more losses at most, but seriously dont be like this. Your team lost and it has nothing to do with USF.

As a Bearcat fan Gabriel is kind of their issue. He's really good, particularly for a freshman, but he has young QB flaws that really good defensive teams can take advantage of. The good news for UCF is they won't play a defense as good as Cincinnati's the rest of the season (maybe Memphis if both make the AAC championship).

UC corners were good enough to challenge UCF receivers. UC often took away their first look then got pressure. Gabriel does not improvise under duress like Milton. He also had to deal with a very hostile crowd making it tough on him all night. Give up on the UCF offense at your own peril. They are going to light some teams up going forward.

(10-10-2019 10:29 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 10:24 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 06:35 AM)TheEndIsNigh Wrote:  You would think if somebody was going to start a troll thread it would be from someone that actually roots for a team. Whatever the have going on in West Central Florida can hardly be called a team.

I don’t see us catching Cincinnati at this point. Until Gabriel can knock off the freshman mistakes and maybe look for a pass that is not a bomb every play we will continue to be inconsistent on offense. However what I have seen from Gabriel makes me feel good for the next 3 years. So far the worst prediction I have seen in this thread is 8-4. I can’t complain much about a record like that. I bet USF would be happy with a 4-8 record at this point.

Love how a newbie UCF fan comes in here being bitchy about USF when the thread was started by a Memphis fan.

Gabriel isnt your issue. Your team has issues and Pitt exposed them, then Cinci used it to win. I can see maybe 1 or 2 more losses at most, but seriously dont be like this. Your team lost and it has nothing to do with USF.

As a Bearcat fan Gabriel is kind of their issue. He's really good, particularly for a freshman, but he has young QB flaws that really good defensive teams can take advantage of. The good news for UCF is they won't play a defense as good as Cincinnati's the rest of the season (maybe Memphis if both make the AAC championship).

UC corners were good enough to challenge UCF receivers. UC often took away their first look then got pressure. Gabriel does not improvise under duress like Milton. He also had to deal with a very hostile crowd making it tough on him all night. Give up on the UCF offense at your own peril. They are going to light some teams up going forward.

Yep. Middling offense if you pressure the heck out of him and make him dink and dunk and force things downfield. Also exposed their OL. They better get used to it. Film is out there twice.

(10-10-2019 11:40 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Yep. Middling offense if you pressure the heck out of him and make him dink and dunk and force things downfield. Also exposed their OL. They better get used to it. Film is out there twice.

For these reasons, and until they are resolved, I still think Wimbush may be a better option at this time. At least he should be looked at for a series or two. How bad can he be if ND signed him?

(10-10-2019 12:07 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 11:40 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Yep. Middling offense if you pressure the heck out of him and make him dink and dunk and force things downfield. Also exposed their OL. They better get used to it. Film is out there twice.

For these reasons, and until they are resolved, I still think Wimbush may be a better option at this time. At least he should be looked at for a series or two. How bad can he be if ND signed him?

Can't disagree more. What exactly does UCF gain by having Wimbush come in and run the table? At this point, at best another AAC championship and then staring down the barrel of having to hope Gabriel gets enough experience in either garbage time (where he's less likely to face the strongest competition) or in practice? Or, do they let him get full game experience against legit teams like Temple and Tulane and come out as a fully experience sophomore and 3 years of eligibility left. I think that would be short sighted. Then again, I want the Knights to suck, so I'd actually be in favor of them throwing away Gabriel's growth at the expense of chasing a Birmingham/Military Bowl bid.

USFFan

Edited to add - actually, if they were going to play Wimbush, the move would have been to do it last week to preserve Dillon Gabriel's redshirt this season. That ship has now sailed.

(10-07-2019 12:13 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(10-07-2019 10:06 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-05-2019 10:39 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Not a fair comparison and the second time it's been made in this thread. Yes, Milton's UCF team was 6 and 7 in his true freshman year. But that was coming off an 0 and 12 winless year. So Milton's UCF team was +6 in the win total. Can Gabriel get to KZ's level? Perhaps, but he is far behind that level now.

Gabriel is WAY ahead of where KZ was as a true freshmen.

True Freshmen Stats:

Games started
Milton: 10
Gabriel: 5 (played in a 6th game)

Total Passing Yards
Milton: 1,983
Gabriel: 1,635

Yards passing per game:
Milton: 193 yds
Gabriel: 272.5 yds

Yards per attempt:
Milton: 5.9
Gabriel: 9.8

TD Passing
Milton: 10
Gabriel: 15

INT's
Milton: 7
Gabriel: 5

Passing Percentage
Milton: 57.7%
Gabriel: 59.6%

Passing Efficiency
Milton: 113.0
Gabriel: 166.2

Rushing:
Milton: 157 yds, 3 TD's, 1.6 yds per carry
Gabriel: -38 yds, 1 TD, -1.6 yds per carry

KZ may have been a one in a million player...but Gabriel certainly has a very bright future ahead of himself and hopefully UCF as well.

Gabriel came into an established highly ranked team whereas KZ came into a crap 0-12 team. How can you even consider making a comparison by numbers? It's apples and oranges. Is Gabriel expected to go undefeated next year or the year after?

Shame on you with coming in with context! /s

(10-10-2019 10:29 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 10:24 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 06:35 AM)TheEndIsNigh Wrote:  You would think if somebody was going to start a troll thread it would be from someone that actually roots for a team. Whatever the have going on in West Central Florida can hardly be called a team.

I don’t see us catching Cincinnati at this point. Until Gabriel can knock off the freshman mistakes and maybe look for a pass that is not a bomb every play we will continue to be inconsistent on offense. However what I have seen from Gabriel makes me feel good for the next 3 years. So far the worst prediction I have seen in this thread is 8-4. I can’t complain much about a record like that. I bet USF would be happy with a 4-8 record at this point.

Love how a newbie UCF fan comes in here being bitchy about USF when the thread was started by a Memphis fan.

Gabriel isnt your issue. Your team has issues and Pitt exposed them, then Cinci used it to win. I can see maybe 1 or 2 more losses at most, but seriously dont be like this. Your team lost and it has nothing to do with USF.

As a Bearcat fan Gabriel is kind of their issue. He's really good, particularly for a freshman, but he has young QB flaws that really good defensive teams can take advantage of. The good news for UCF is they won't play a defense as good as Cincinnati's the rest of the season (maybe Memphis if both make the AAC championship).

UC corners were good enough to challenge UCF receivers. UC often took away their first look then got pressure. Gabriel does not improvise under duress like Milton. He also had to deal with a very hostile crowd making it tough on him all night. Give up on the UCF offense at your own peril. They are going to light some teams up going forward.

You’re right; Temple’s defense is better than Cincinnati’s.

(10-10-2019 10:29 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 10:24 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 06:35 AM)TheEndIsNigh Wrote:  You would think if somebody was going to start a troll thread it would be from someone that actually roots for a team. Whatever the have going on in West Central Florida can hardly be called a team.

I don’t see us catching Cincinnati at this point. Until Gabriel can knock off the freshman mistakes and maybe look for a pass that is not a bomb every play we will continue to be inconsistent on offense. However what I have seen from Gabriel makes me feel good for the next 3 years. So far the worst prediction I have seen in this thread is 8-4. I can’t complain much about a record like that. I bet USF would be happy with a 4-8 record at this point.

Love how a newbie UCF fan comes in here being bitchy about USF when the thread was started by a Memphis fan.

Gabriel isnt your issue. Your team has issues and Pitt exposed them, then Cinci used it to win. I can see maybe 1 or 2 more losses at most, but seriously dont be like this. Your team lost and it has nothing to do with USF.

As a Bearcat fan Gabriel is kind of their issue. He's really good, particularly for a freshman, but he has young QB flaws that really good defensive teams can take advantage of. The good news for UCF is they won't play a defense as good as Cincinnati's the rest of the season (maybe Memphis if both make the AAC championship).

UC corners were good enough to challenge UCF receivers. UC often took away their first look then got pressure. Gabriel does not improvise under duress like Milton. He also had to deal with a very hostile crowd making it tough on him all night. Give up on the UCF offense at your own peril. They are going to light some teams up going forward.

Kind of the issue... but not the whole issue. Their OL has issues and when he is rushed, he shows that hes young. Their secondary has some issues too that can be exploited if the teams have the weapons to do that... unfortunately, I don't see many more losses on their schedule. Maybe 1-2 at most and I wouldn't be surprised if they win out.

(10-10-2019 02:17 PM)vick mike Wrote:  You’re right; Temple’s defense is better than Cincinnati’s.

Fair. Every great defense gives up 38 points to Buffalo.

(10-10-2019 02:32 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 02:17 PM)vick mike Wrote:  You’re right; Temple’s defense is better than Cincinnati’s.

Fair. Every great defense gives up 38 points to Buffalo.

Not fair! There was a pick 6 in there.

But point taken.

(10-09-2019 09:18 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(10-09-2019 08:26 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-09-2019 06:14 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(10-09-2019 04:40 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  People still posting to a troll thread.

I dont' know. May have something to do with three years of constant...

"WE ARE THE GREATEST!!!" "YOU ALL SUCK!!!" "SELF PROCLAIMED 2017 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!"

I enjoy watching UCF play...however so many of their fans are insufferable brats at each and every opportunity that it warrants spiking the ball from time to time.

I’m going to enjoy watching some of them go all Willy Nilly when it sets in that they are going to the Beef O’Brady Bowl rather than the Cotton Bowl.

Sir, I'll have you know that it's the
magicJack
Beef O'Brady's
Bitcoin
Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl played in St. Petersburg Tampa, thank you very much!

USFFan

Never should have left St Pete. Much better location for bars and restaurants within walking distance. Much closer to the beaches for anyone coming in too.

Finally, cold isn't an issue but as you saw last year...rain can be an issue.

One

thats the # of AAC teams that have beaten UCF. AAC fans/admin should move this for troll it is.

There are a lot of factors in the Cincinnati game that make things more complicated than just a QB issue. And even with all the issues UCF had on offense, the Knights still drove down the field frequently and outgained the Bearcats in total yards.

Just to beat UCF, Cincinnati spent the entire off season game planning, and significant time in spring practice and fall camp implementing a 3-3-5 defensive scheme completely different that anything most teams ever use. Nothing wrong with that. Good on their coaches and bad on UCF coaches for not finding a way to adjust. Here is an article from the Athletic on that...

https://theathletic.com/1276158/2019/10/...et-of-ucf/

Add in a Freshman QB still adjusting to the college game. There is suspicion (but no confirmation) that Heuple has simplified game planning a little bit which could account for an inability to make adjustments this game.

Finally, a baffling and inexplicable offensive line. The same line that manhandled a Stanford team that traditionally has a talented and stout defensive line looked like the Keystone Cops against Cincinnati. With the Bearcats protecting against the deep ball and only having six in the box (three lineman and three LBs five yards off the ball, UCF should easily have been able to run the ball.

(10-10-2019 02:49 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 02:32 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 02:17 PM)vick mike Wrote:  You’re right; Temple’s defense is better than Cincinnati’s.

Fair. Every great defense gives up 38 points to Buffalo.

Not fair! There was a pick 6 in there.

But point taken.

Last I remember I think they were 14 in defensive sp+ so though I give temple a hard time the numbers are with their defense.

(10-10-2019 04:09 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  One

thats the # of AAC teams that have beaten UCF. AAC fans/admin should move this for troll it is.

Yeah but you've only played 2...

(10-10-2019 04:14 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  There are a lot of factors in the Cincinnati game that make things more complicated than just a QB issue. And even with all the issues UCF had on offense, the Knights still drove down the field frequently and outgained the Bearcats in total yards.

Just to beat UCF, Cincinnati spent the entire off season game planning, and significant time in spring practice and fall camp implementing a 3-3-5 defensive scheme completely different that anything most teams ever use. Nothing wrong with that. Good on their coaches and bad on UCF coaches for not finding a way to adjust. Here is an article from the Athletic on that...

https://theathletic.com/1276158/2019/10/...et-of-ucf/

Add in a Freshman QB still adjusting to the college game. There is suspicion (but no confirmation) that Heuple has simplified game planning a little bit which could account for an inability to make adjustments this game.

Finally, a baffling and inexplicable offensive line. The same line that manhandled a Stanford team that traditionally has a talented and stout defensive line looked like the Keystone Cops against Cincinnati. With the Bearcats protecting against the deep ball and only having six in the box (three lineman and three LBs five yards off the ball, UCF should easily have been able to run the ball.

(10-10-2019 06:40 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  

(10-10-2019 04:09 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  One

thats the # of AAC teams that have beaten UCF. AAC fans/admin should move this for troll it is.

Yeah but you've only played 2...

“Fall of UCF”. Implies historical . Cinn is in head for East but how many nonUCF titles were with some losses.

Point is poster and others are trolling and if UCF pulls out even the sensible fan/posters will run these posters off the net.

(10-10-2019 04:09 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  One

thats the # of AAC teams that have beaten UCF. AAC fans/admin should move this for troll it is.

And how many of those losses from the school favorite of that fan. The thread was successful, though, with the interest.

(10-04-2019 11:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  How far, how fast

lmfao