(10-02-2019 06:44 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 04:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 11:42 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:44 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  State of Florida is next

Currently crafting a Name, Image, and Likeness Bill

Quote:A source tells CBS Sports that a Florida representative is not only beginning to craft a similar bill, but is aiming for an enactment date prior to 2023.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...tests/amp/

It’s an arms race now.

With the state of Florida involved, if passes now it impacts SEC, ACC, American, and C-USA.

The interesting thing about the California law is it specifically prohibits the NCAA from kicking out any California institution due to a student being compensated for name and likeness. Pretty sure the California Legislature has zero power outside the border of California. If push comes to shove, California is going to lose that battle. The California Legislature cannot define the rules of amateurism for Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Ohio, etc.

If California is the only state with that law by 2023, then they may lose the battle. But right now, at least 10 or 12 other states are considering similar legislation, and if that happens, that will cover every FBS conference in the country.

At that point, the NCAA will have to adapt.

Frankly, this reminds me a lot of the FCOA situation. My guess is this will be dealt with during the off season. Assuming most of these state law proposals pass---the real problem is that there will be multiple states with multiple laws. The NCAA wont be able to reconcile a single policy that will conform to all the new state laws. The key for the NCAA is to do the same thing it did with FCOA. Get out ahead of this and craft a policy that addresses the issue while minimizing the damage to the heath and character of college sports.

Between the rules and the year around character of college sports---these kids cant really get part time jobs like normal college kids. Unless their parents send them money, most of these kids are broke. I'd like to see something that gives the kids some sort of "spending money" monthly compensation thats similar to what the typical college kid makes at a part time job. It needs to be done in a way that keeps the boosters out of it and maintains the current competitive balance in the sport.

I don’t know what planet you live on, but a ton of college students don’t have parents sending them “spending money”. For a lot of students, their part time job is going to pay tuition or their costs of living (food, board, etc...)

If you’re going to pay the players fine. Treat it like work study and take their athletic scholarships, and let them pay out of the money they make like the rest of the student body. Some would be able to do it easily (like a star QB) but I can tell you his offensive line isn’t going to be happy when they aren’t getting paid enough for their likenesses to afford school.

And here come the feds, which was the way this was always going to go.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...e-athletes

(09-30-2019 01:42 PM)Chappy Wrote:  California schools can't compete for titles but they now have a huge recruiting advantage.

Stanford was in the top 10 not too long ago...

And we USC are consistently in the top 10/25. We simply have had a bad string of luck with head coaches. If we get Urban Meyer we will be a top-10 team next season.

Ohio is now in on it as well.

Dan Wetzel takes a shot at Delany.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-jim-delan...59965.html

(10-03-2019 10:13 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Ohio is now in on it as well.

Updated list, as best I can tell. Plus Congress now.

Colorado
Florida
Illinois
Kentucky
Maryland
Minnesota
North Carolina
Nevada
New Mexico
New York
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Washington
West Virginia

(10-03-2019 12:32 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 10:13 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Ohio is now in on it as well.

Updated list, as best I can tell. Plus Congress now.

Colorado
Florida
Illinois
Kentucky
Maryland
Minnesota
North Carolina
Nevada
New Mexico
New York
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Washington
West Virginia

So, Michigan and Georgia are the only holdouts left in the top-10 states (based on population). The list, so far, covers almost two-thirds of the U.S. population.

(10-03-2019 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dan Wetzel takes a shot at Delany.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-jim-delan...59965.html

God, this article is exactly what disgusts me about this proposition. It's going to kill any semblance of competition from small schools / poor schools. You might as well do away with half the NCAA. There will be even less competition between the top schools and those under them. This just seems like a terrible, terrible, terrible idea for the sport. I don't think politicians realize how much this is going to be to the detriment of players who don't go to Ohio State, Florida, USC, etc...

I don't mind blasting the athletic administrations of the conferences / schools... but none of this argument would be valid if we kept things the way they are and gave the money to the schools for academic use rather than giving it to the athletes.

No to SDSU joining the AAC, we should kick out their rowing team...

Perhaps now the Big XII will grab the Arizona twins, Utah,and Buffalo.

Politicians should stay away from college sports, especially idiots like Gavin Newsom.

(10-03-2019 12:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dan Wetzel takes a shot at Delany.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-jim-delan...59965.html

God, this article is exactly what disgusts me about this proposition. It's going to kill any semblance of competition from small schools / poor schools. You might as well do away with half the NCAA. There will be even less competition between the top schools and those under them. This just seems like a terrible, terrible, terrible idea for the sport. I don't think politicians realize how much this is going to be to the detriment of players who don't go to Ohio State, Florida, USC, etc...

I don't mind blasting the athletic administrations of the conferences / schools... but none of this argument would be valid if we kept things the way they are and gave the money to the schools for academic use rather than giving it to the athletes.

I think you're going to have to find some new sports to follow.

NCAA sports are doomed, they say. Yeah, we’ve heard that before
By NATHAN FENNO STAFF WRITER
OCT. 2, 2019 5:04 PM

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/201...y-title-ix

(10-03-2019 03:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dan Wetzel takes a shot at Delany.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-jim-delan...59965.html

God, this article is exactly what disgusts me about this proposition. It's going to kill any semblance of competition from small schools / poor schools. You might as well do away with half the NCAA. There will be even less competition between the top schools and those under them. This just seems like a terrible, terrible, terrible idea for the sport. I don't think politicians realize how much this is going to be to the detriment of players who don't go to Ohio State, Florida, USC, etc...

I don't mind blasting the athletic administrations of the conferences / schools... but none of this argument would be valid if we kept things the way they are and gave the money to the schools for academic use rather than giving it to the athletes.

I think you're going to have to find some new sports to follow.

Anything where the athletes aren't falsely affiliated with a school that they don't really attend nor do they actually value. Call me old fashioned, but I just like my student athletes to actually be students in some way shape or form.

I kinda hope academia rebels against this and starts getting rid of all the "organizational studies" type majors that they have which will effectively block a good deal of athletes from making decent enough grades to be eligible. If I'm the NCAA that's how I would tackle this. Make academics more stringent.... Make them major in something that will actually lead to a career.

(10-03-2019 12:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dan Wetzel takes a shot at Delany.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-jim-delan...59965.html

God, this article is exactly what disgusts me about this proposition. It's going to kill any semblance of competition from small schools / poor schools. You might as well do away with half the NCAA. There will be even less competition between the top schools and those under them. This just seems like a terrible, terrible, terrible idea for the sport. I don't think politicians realize how much this is going to be to the detriment of players who don't go to Ohio State, Florida, USC, etc...

I don't mind blasting the athletic administrations of the conferences / schools... but none of this argument would be valid if we kept things the way they are and gave the money to the schools for academic use rather than giving it to the athletes.

Agreed.

Nobody wants to watch the same 50 schools playing minor league basketball.

(10-03-2019 06:03 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dan Wetzel takes a shot at Delany.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-jim-delan...59965.html

God, this article is exactly what disgusts me about this proposition. It's going to kill any semblance of competition from small schools / poor schools. You might as well do away with half the NCAA. There will be even less competition between the top schools and those under them. This just seems like a terrible, terrible, terrible idea for the sport. I don't think politicians realize how much this is going to be to the detriment of players who don't go to Ohio State, Florida, USC, etc...

I don't mind blasting the athletic administrations of the conferences / schools... but none of this argument would be valid if we kept things the way they are and gave the money to the schools for academic use rather than giving it to the athletes.

Agreed.

Nobody wants to watch the same 50 schools playing minor league basketball.

They already do...

Don't particularly disagree with the STUDENT athlete beinh protected, but politics are completely out of control now and I don't really want them near college athletics.

The last time that someone tried to tell Universities how to run their "Business" it led to today's landscape of Professional College Athletics.

NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma:
https://www.google.com/search?q=broadban...e&ie=UTF-8

(10-04-2019 09:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 06:03 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dan Wetzel takes a shot at Delany.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-jim-delan...59965.html

God, this article is exactly what disgusts me about this proposition. It's going to kill any semblance of competition from small schools / poor schools. You might as well do away with half the NCAA. There will be even less competition between the top schools and those under them. This just seems like a terrible, terrible, terrible idea for the sport. I don't think politicians realize how much this is going to be to the detriment of players who don't go to Ohio State, Florida, USC, etc...

I don't mind blasting the athletic administrations of the conferences / schools... but none of this argument would be valid if we kept things the way they are and gave the money to the schools for academic use rather than giving it to the athletes.

Agreed.

Nobody wants to watch the same 50 schools playing minor league basketball.

They already do...

Nope, nobody watches the G league.