RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-12-2019 05:39 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(08-12-2019 04:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote: The AAC is Cincy's forever home. Sorry Bearcats.
Truth. The realignment carousel has permanently stopped spinning. If Cincy had the same opportunity to join the Big East in hoop instead of being a forever member of the AAC in all sports, you can bet they they would have done the same thing that UConn did and their fans would be on here bragging about the merits of independence.
The chance of UC, a top 25 public research institution, joining a bunch of small catholic schools is somewhere between nada and zilch.
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 12:38 PM)Bogg Wrote:
(08-13-2019 07:26 AM)TripleA Wrote: The argument that none of us will make the P5 anyway is empty, b/c football is the driver in most of our areas for higher revenue, increased student enrollment, and more alumni donations. None of that has anything to do with the P5. For most of us, college athletics is the front porch of the university, and football is the main attraction, not basketball. That's what caused the demise of the OBE, and the eventual inevitable split with the C7.
To be fair, most of the "the P5 is never expanding" (I'm paraphrasing) talk is in response to the idea that this move in particular is what's going to keep UConn out of the ACC or Big 10. That simply wasn't happening for UConn regardless, which is why all the "you just flushed your P5 hopes" talk is nonsensical.
And here's the thing - I think the AAC is actually a pretty good league for its Florida/Western wing! It should, at minimum, be a reliably multi-bid basketball conference going forward and it's a proven platform to at least facilitate football teams getting ranked and on TV. It just doesn't make as much sense for UConn as the Big East does, regardless of the university's intentions with football.
Hmm...Not a single thing you said in that post had anything to do with what I posted that you cited.
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 01:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:
(08-13-2019 12:46 PM)The Knight Time Wrote: If UConn joined the Colonial then you'd at least get to compete against regional peers like Rhode Island, Maine, Delaware, Drexel, Northeastern, New Hampshire, Albany, and Villanova.
That'd be more interesting to UConn fans than New Mexico, Idaho, and Liberty.
No it wouldn't be more interesting. UConn fans aren't interested in FCS football. It may happen since I think the chances of ever completely dropping football are close to zero, but there will be no significant fan interest in football at that level.
And there is significant fan interest now in FBS? Uh, no...
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 01:59 PM)HuskyU Wrote: AAC fans smack talking the Big East in conference tourney attendance is like UCONN fans smack talking Alabama football attendance.
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:16 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Let's take a look at this pic you posted:
Notice the foreground of the pic, where you can see the dark silhouettes of all those people. Just because they're black, it doesn't mean they aren't there.
You is a funny guy, Coach P.
legtimate question, you really cant tell the seats across te arean are half empty .. do you were glasses in real life?
silhouette makes sense when they are in the shade, the other side of the arena isnt a silhouette ....
but lets not debate this anymore...like bogg stated you will have 20+ years of experience at msg...you guys will be able to see yourselves
uconn fans have chosen to live in a delusion......
like how you guys didnt chose indy, and its is confirmed by mcmurphy that uconn tried to make scheduling deal to keep football in the AAC
but now that we said no, according to you guys indy is actually the better situation where you guys are so much better off...
cope however you want ....ill let you guys have your dreams..
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2019 03:32 PM by pesik.)
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-13-2019 01:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:
(08-13-2019 12:46 PM)The Knight Time Wrote: If UConn joined the Colonial then you'd at least get to compete against regional peers like Rhode Island, Maine, Delaware, Drexel, Northeastern, New Hampshire, Albany, and Villanova.
That'd be more interesting to UConn fans than New Mexico, Idaho, and Liberty.
No it wouldn't be more interesting. UConn fans aren't interested in FCS football. It may happen since I think the chances of ever completely dropping football are close to zero, but there will be no significant fan interest in football at that level.
And there is significant fan interest now in FBS? Uh, no...
I don't recall there being significant fan interest during Memphis' Tommy West/Larry Porter losing years either....
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:20 PM)chatcat Wrote:
(08-12-2019 05:39 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(08-12-2019 04:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote: The AAC is Cincy's forever home. Sorry Bearcats.
Truth. The realignment carousel has permanently stopped spinning. If Cincy had the same opportunity to join the Big East in hoop instead of being a forever member of the AAC in all sports, you can bet they they would have done the same thing that UConn did and their fans would be on here bragging about the merits of independence.
The chance of UC, a top 25 public research institution, joining a bunch of small catholic schools is somewhere between nada and zilch.
Top 25 on what? Research dollars spent? Link please.
Anyway, it isn't like UConn is leaving behind peer land grant state universities. We are leaving behind some directional state universities and schools named after cities. Are private Catholic schools really "beneath" these institutions because they aren't big state universities? I think not.
Unlike Cincinnati, which only spent 8 years in the Big East, UConn spent 34 years in that conference and has a deep history with many of those institutions. Those teams matter more to us from a rivalry perspective and we wanted to get back to playing teams that meant more to our fan base and who are also located in our region (which just makes common sense)
The reality is that everyone's school here (except Wichita, Temple, and Navy) has sort of returned to where they came from before the realignment carousel started spinning. UConn is back in the Big East with teams that it has played for years and Cincinnati is essentially back in a revamped CUSA (now called the American) playing against teams that it has a history of playing. What's not to love?
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-13-2019 01:59 PM)HuskyU Wrote: AAC fans smack talking the Big East in conference tourney attendance is like UCONN fans smack talking Alabama football attendance.
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:31 PM)HuskyU Wrote:
(08-13-2019 03:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-13-2019 01:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:
(08-13-2019 12:46 PM)The Knight Time Wrote: If UConn joined the Colonial then you'd at least get to compete against regional peers like Rhode Island, Maine, Delaware, Drexel, Northeastern, New Hampshire, Albany, and Villanova.
That'd be more interesting to UConn fans than New Mexico, Idaho, and Liberty.
No it wouldn't be more interesting. UConn fans aren't interested in FCS football. It may happen since I think the chances of ever completely dropping football are close to zero, but there will be no significant fan interest in football at that level.
And there is significant fan interest now in FBS? Uh, no...
I don't recall there being significant fan interest during Memphis' Tommy West/Larry Porter losing years either....
But we didn't throw in the towel on football, either. You just did.
So, your first picture is from a regular-season Georgetown-DePaul game in Washington, DC. Your second picture appears to be pregame of a Wednesday night matchup of St John's-Georgetown from two years ago that had attendence of 16k, which would be an AAC single-session record, but might be from the year prior to that. The third picture might be your only actual photograph of this seasons' tournament, pregame of what looks to be the Thursday St. John's-Marquette game that, if you look up the video actually was a full house once, you know, the game started. Your final picture is, hillariously, the final minutes of a 2012, Tuesday evening tournament game two years before the Big East split.
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:28 PM)pesik Wrote:
(08-13-2019 03:16 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Let's take a look at this pic you posted:
Notice the foreground of the pic, where you can see the dark silhouettes of all those people. Just because they're black, it doesn't mean they aren't there.
You is a funny guy, Coach P.
legtimate question, you really cant tell the seats across te arean are half empty .. do you were glasses in real life?
silhouette makes sense when they are in the shade, the other side of the arena is in a silhouette ....
but lets not debate this anymore...like bogg stated you will have 20+ years of experience at msg...you guys will be able to see yourselves
uconn fans have chosen to live in a delusion......
like how you guys didnt chose indy, and its is confirmed by mcmurphy that uconn tried to make scheduling deal to keep football in the AAC
but now that we said no, according to you guys indy is actually the better situation where you guys are so much better off...
cope however you want ....ill let you guys have your dreams..
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2019 03:39 PM by RuckleSt.)
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:33 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(08-13-2019 03:20 PM)chatcat Wrote:
(08-12-2019 05:39 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(08-12-2019 04:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote: The AAC is Cincy's forever home. Sorry Bearcats.
Truth. The realignment carousel has permanently stopped spinning. If Cincy had the same opportunity to join the Big East in hoop instead of being a forever member of the AAC in all sports, you can bet they they would have done the same thing that UConn did and their fans would be on here bragging about the merits of independence.
The chance of UC, a top 25 public research institution, joining a bunch of small catholic schools is somewhere between nada and zilch.
Top 25 on what? Research dollars spent? Link please.
Anyway, it isn't like UConn is leaving behind peer land grant state universities. We are leaving behind some directional state universities and schools named after cities. Are private Catholic schools really "beneath" these institutions because they aren't big state universities? I think not.
Unlike Cincinnati, which only spent 8 years in the Big East, UConn spent 34 years in that conference and has a deep history with many of those institutions. Those teams matter more to us from a rivalry perspective and we wanted to get back to playing teams that meant more to our fan base and who are also located in our region (which just makes common sense)
The reality is that everyone's school here (except Wichita, Temple, and Navy) has sort of returned to where they came from before the realignment carousel started spinning. UConn is back in the Big East with teams that it has played for years and Cincinnati is essentially back in a revamped CUSA (now called the American) playing against teams that it has a history of playing. What's not to love?
what??? the c-usa jabs are dumb... you post is double ended...
stating cincy was only only in the big east for x years...but stating cincy is its home home , where it cincy played a shorter in c-usa amount of time the big east
before realignment started in the mid 90s...houston, and smu were in the SWC...tulane is historically SEC...usf and ucf only recently joined the fbs level in relative terms....ecu and cincy were indy til then....some of us were in the wac for before joining c-usa late
no one has deep ties to c-usa the conference..ecu is the only one with strong ties to c-usa opponents
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:35 PM)Bogg Wrote: So, your first picture is from a regular-season Georgetown-DePaul game in Washington, DC. Your second picture appears to be pregame of a Wednesday night matchup of St John's-Georgetown from two years ago that had attendence of 16k, which would be an AAC single-session record, but might be from the year prior to that. The third picture might be your only actual photograph of this seasons' tournament, pregame of what looks to be the Thursday St. John's-Marquette game that, if you look up the video actually was a full house once, you know, the game started. Your final picture is, hillariously, the final minutes of a 2012, Tuesday evening tournament game two years before the Big East split.
we are talking actual attendance not announced attendance ...stating announced atteance has nothing to do with my point
and secondly like i said i literally juct googled big east tournament and put a filter of "within the last year" ...and every thing not vil with the attendance showing is half empty
you guys ar acting like i went through every game to validify which game
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:48 PM)pesik Wrote:
(08-13-2019 03:35 PM)Bogg Wrote: So, your first picture is from a regular-season Georgetown-DePaul game in Washington, DC. Your second picture appears to be pregame of a Wednesday night matchup of St John's-Georgetown from two years ago that had attendence of 16k, which would be an AAC single-session record, but might be from the year prior to that. The third picture might be your only actual photograph of this seasons' tournament, pregame of what looks to be the Thursday St. John's-Marquette game that, if you look up the video actually was a full house once, you know, the game started. Your final picture is, hillariously, the final minutes of a 2012, Tuesday evening tournament game two years before the Big East split.
we are talking actual attendance not announced attendance ...stating announced atteance has nothing to do with my point
and secondly like i said i literally juct googled big east tournament and put a filter of "within the last year" ...and every thing not vil with the attendance showing is half empty
you guys ar acting like i went through every game to validify which game
So the argument you're going to hang your hat on is "sure, the tournament is sold out, but some of the fans only go to the sessions their team is playing in" and also that Google tricked you?
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
Comparing pics of attendance--with its deep analysis of shadows and silhouettes--reminds me of attendance smack between MTSU and WKU on the CUSA board.
RE: Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
(08-13-2019 03:55 PM)Bogg Wrote:
(08-13-2019 03:48 PM)pesik Wrote:
(08-13-2019 03:35 PM)Bogg Wrote: So, your first picture is from a regular-season Georgetown-DePaul game in Washington, DC. Your second picture appears to be pregame of a Wednesday night matchup of St John's-Georgetown from two years ago that had attendence of 16k, which would be an AAC single-session record, but might be from the year prior to that. The third picture might be your only actual photograph of this seasons' tournament, pregame of what looks to be the Thursday St. John's-Marquette game that, if you look up the video actually was a full house once, you know, the game started. Your final picture is, hillariously, the final minutes of a 2012, Tuesday evening tournament game two years before the Big East split.
we are talking actual attendance not announced attendance ...stating announced atteance has nothing to do with my point
and secondly like i said i literally juct googled big east tournament and put a filter of "within the last year" ...and every thing not vil with the attendance showing is half empty
you guys ar acting like i went through every game to validify which game
So the argument you're going to hang your hat on is "sure, the tournament is sold out, but some of the fans only go to the sessions their team is playing in" and also that Google tricked you?
and google dint trrick me....but that every picture was half empty with no vill in it was half empty..when all picutres are showing something its revealing not tricking
and you guys are trying to justify why its okay
i stated a claim... the game are half empty... you guys say that its wrong
every response since is why its okay for it to be half empty....i just said it was half empty...stating why you think its okay has nothing to do with my point
Pete Thamel - sell out of football makes UConn one of country's worst jobs.
This thread has run its course. No idea why you guys continue to argue this. It really doesn't matter. And if it really comes down to it, I have the biggest dick and I'll start handing out timeouts for this stupidity.