(07-13-2019 09:39 AM)Aargh Wrote:  This topic comes up FOREVER from a few WSU fans who refuse to face the reality that football at WSU is over, ended, and done.

The cost to start a FB program is $40 million. That's just to get to the point where there is a program. It would be utterly impossible to recruit anybody to play in our 50-year old stadium that's never been upgraded. It's just barely been maintained.

Then the program would have to cover operating losses until it got to be competitive.

The NCAA mandates starting in FCS. Missouri Valley has good FCS football, but they would never let us in for just FB. We'd be stuck in a league of Texas schools nobody has ever heard of. That's not going to put butts in seats. And that's the best case scenario.

Then there would be the move to FBS, which is the only level where there can be any reasonable expectation of drawing more than a few thousand fans. No self-respecting conference would take the product that WSU could put on the field at that time.

So, it would be independent until either reaching the point where a league would accept them or bankrupting the athletic department and dropping all sports, including basketball.

Bankrupting the athletic department would be the most likely result.

Just so everyone knows Aargh is part of the old guard and is the #1 anti football poster on Shockernet. He was glad to see it go in 85 and is always ready to tell everybody about it while supporting his position with crazy numbers that he pulls out of thin air. Please ignore his post and continue on. Every year we have more and more folks that want football compared to those who don't. With WSU now recruiting and concentrating hard on the I-35 corridor, football at WSU is not a question of "if it comes back" but rather "when it comes back."

I seriously doubt WSU will start up football and I am even more doubtful that they would be invited to teh AAC. They are YEARS away from being able to play at the FBS level in a conference... and that's just to be able to play. Then at best they will be seen as the third best team in their state.

Why would we add WSU as a brand new startup team. We could snag anyone from teh MAC, Sunbelt, CUSA and most form the MWC... why would we take WSU? Makes no sense at all.

this sounds like a Nova fiasco all over again.

(08-07-2019 12:27 PM)Shox Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 09:39 AM)Aargh Wrote:  This topic comes up FOREVER from a few WSU fans who refuse to face the reality that football at WSU is over, ended, and done.

The cost to start a FB program is $40 million. That's just to get to the point where there is a program. It would be utterly impossible to recruit anybody to play in our 50-year old stadium that's never been upgraded. It's just barely been maintained.

Then the program would have to cover operating losses until it got to be competitive.

The NCAA mandates starting in FCS. Missouri Valley has good FCS football, but they would never let us in for just FB. We'd be stuck in a league of Texas schools nobody has ever heard of. That's not going to put butts in seats. And that's the best case scenario.

Then there would be the move to FBS, which is the only level where there can be any reasonable expectation of drawing more than a few thousand fans. No self-respecting conference would take the product that WSU could put on the field at that time.

So, it would be independent until either reaching the point where a league would accept them or bankrupting the athletic department and dropping all sports, including basketball.

Bankrupting the athletic department would be the most likely result.

Just so everyone knows Aargh is part of the old guard and is the #1 anti football poster on Shockernet. He was glad to see it go in 85 and is always ready to tell everybody about it while supporting his position with crazy numbers that he pulls out of thin air. Please ignore his post and continue on. Every year we have more and more folks that want football compared to those who don't. With WSU now recruiting and concentrating hard on the I-35 corridor, football at WSU is not a question of "if it comes back" but rather "when it comes back."

The only act in town for Wichita is Wichita State. Very much like Memphis before the Grizz came to town.

I think investing in football would be wise because look how they support their basketball. Baseball too.

They're in a much higher profile conference now where football is a big deal. I think it would be a can't miss. I'd be shocked (pun intended) if the Koch brothers wouldn't be willing to at least fund the start-up.

What the ****, give it a rip.

This is a discussion thread for sport fans right?

With that in mind, lets say that WSU decides to reinstate Football and the Koch Brothers decide to fully back the effort.

They donate $400MM to the university, enough to build a football stadium/facilities and hire Urban Meyer for six years...

Still think they can't succeed or be contenders within a few years with recruiting access to Texas, Florida and pretty much the entire country with Urban Meyer as the head coach?

(08-07-2019 12:49 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  This is a discussion thread for sport fans right?

With that in mind, lets say that WSU decides to reinstate Football and the Koch Brothers decide to fully back the effort.

They donate $400MM to the university, enough to build a football stadium/facilities and hire Urban Meyer for six years...

Still think they can't succeed or be contenders within a few years with recruiting access to Texas, Florida and pretty much the entire country with Urban Meyer as the head coach?

They'd probably be in the FCS playoffs within 2 years under those conditions.

(08-07-2019 12:49 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  This is a discussion thread for sport fans right?

With that in mind, lets say that WSU decides to reinstate Football and the Koch Brothers decide to fully back the effort.

They donate $400MM to the university, enough to build a football stadium/facilities and hire Urban Meyer for six years...

Still think they can't succeed or be contenders within a few years with recruiting access to Texas, Florida and pretty much the entire country with Urban Meyer as the head coach?

Just look at UTSA. They have done quite well in getting San Antonio to support them.

(08-07-2019 12:49 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  This is a discussion thread for sport fans right?

With that in mind, lets say that WSU decides to reinstate Football and the Koch Brothers decide to fully back the effort.

They donate $400MM to the university, enough to build a football stadium/facilities and hire Urban Meyer for six years...

Still think they can't succeed or be contenders within a few years with recruiting access to Texas, Florida and pretty much the entire country with Urban Meyer as the head coach?

They donate $400M to athletics...

Sure....go on...

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