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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-26-2019 07:57 PM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  UCONN is the state flagship school, and you can't afford to field a football team?

(06-26-2019 08:06 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  I’m stumped on the finances though. You all were making more money than most of the other members. Memphis has had to grind for everything we got.

It's less about not being able to afford football than it is simply choosing what to prioritize and where they want to be long term (remember that the school that "doesn't have two nickels to rub together" is voluntarily writing an eight-figure check to go play their preferred schools) . I can't stress this enough - it's just different in New England. College football is a sideshow to pro football that functionally only exists on TV screens, and college basketball is the bigger deal up here. Football was never meant to be the headliner - it was elevated only because UConn saw a split coming and wanted to stick with BC and Syracuse (which, by the way, should show you how genuine the whole "public land-grant" spiel from the UConn Football Truthers is). Once that didn't happen, and other big revenue avenues didn't pan out, lots and lots of people started giving the football program the side-eye.

Here's the thing though: going to UConn football games can still be a lot of fun! I had season tickets all four years I was there (back in the OBE days) and enjoyed it. It just shouldn't be the focus of the administration any more. If they continue on as an independent in some capacity I'll still go to games and wish the program well. Being a football school's never going to happen though, which is probably bizarre to people down south.
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(06-26-2019 08:45 PM)Bogg Wrote:  It's less about not being able to afford football than it is simply choosing what to prioritize and where they want to be long term (remember that the school that "doesn't have two nickels to rub together" is voluntarily writing an eight-figure check to go play their preferred schools) . I can't stress this enough - it's just different in New England. College football is a sideshow to pro football that functionally only exists on TV screens, and college basketball is the bigger deal up here. Football was never meant to be the headliner - it was elevated only because UConn saw a split coming and wanted to stick with BC and Syracuse (which, by the way, should show you how genuine the whole "public land-grant" spiel from the UConn Football Truthers is). Once that didn't happen, and other big revenue avenues didn't pan out, lots and lots of people started giving the football program the side-eye.

Here's the thing though: going to UConn football games can still be a lot of fun! I had season tickets all four years I was there (back in the OBE days) and enjoyed it. It just shouldn't be the focus of the administration any more. If they continue on as an independent in some capacity I'll still go to games and wish the program well. Being a football school's never going to happen though, which is probably bizarre to people down south.

I agree about the culture aspect. Most schools in the South or Midwest just can't comprehend giving up football.
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SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-26-2019 08:45 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 07:57 PM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  UCONN is the state flagship school, and you can't afford to field a football team?

(06-26-2019 08:06 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  I’m stumped on the finances though. You all were making more money than most of the other members. Memphis has had to grind for everything we got.

It's less about not being able to afford football than it is simply choosing what to prioritize and where they want to be long term (remember that the school that "doesn't have two nickels to rub together" is voluntarily writing an eight-figure check to go play their preferred schools) . I can't stress this enough - it's just different in New England. College football is a sideshow to pro football that functionally only exists on TV screens, and college basketball is the bigger deal up here. Football was never meant to be the headliner - it was elevated only because UConn saw a split coming and wanted to stick with BC and Syracuse (which, by the way, should show you how genuine the whole "public land-grant" spiel from the UConn Football Truthers is). Once that didn't happen, and other big revenue avenues didn't pan out, lots and lots of people started giving the football program the side-eye.

Here's the thing though: going to UConn football games can still be a lot of fun! I had season tickets all four years I was there (back in the OBE days) and enjoyed it. It just shouldn't be the focus of the administration any more. If they continue on as an independent in some capacity I'll still go to games and wish the program well. Being a football school's never going to happen though, which is probably bizarre to people down south.


Memphis is more basketball then football....which is not the norm in the South.

Good luck!


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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
UCONN football, year-by-year since moving up from FCS in 2000. One FCS-opponent per season beginning in 2001.

2000: 3-8. Independent. 3 FCS opponents.
2001: 2-9. Independent.
2002: 6-6. Independent.
2003: 9-3. Independent.
2004: 8-4, 3-3 BE Motor City Bowl: W/Toledo
2005: 5-6, 2-5 BE.
2006: 4-8, 1-6 BE.
2007: 9-4, 5-2 BE Meineke Car Care Bowl: L/Wake Forest
2008: 8-5, 3-4 BE International Bowl: W/Buffalo
2009: 8-5, 3-4 BE Papa John’s Bowl: W/South Carolina
2010: 8-5, 5-2 BE Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: L/Oklahoma
2011: 5-7, 3-4 BE.
2012: 5-7, 2-5 BE.
2013: 3-9, 3-5 AAC.
2014: 2-10, 1-7 AAC.
2015: 6-7, 4-4 AAC St. Petersburg Bowl: L/Marshall
2016: 3-9, 1-7 AAC.
2017: 3-9, 2-6 AAC.
2018: 1-11, 0-8 AAC
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(06-26-2019 09:52 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  UCONN football, year-by-year since moving up from FCS in 2000. One FCS-opponent per season beginning in 2001.

2000: 3-8. Independent. 3 FCS opponents.
2001: 2-9. Independent.
2002: 6-6. Independent.
2003: 9-3. Independent.
2004: 8-4, 3-3 BE Motor City Bowl: W/Toledo
2005: 5-6, 2-5 BE.
2006: 4-8, 1-6 BE.
2007: 9-4, 5-2 BE Meineke Car Care Bowl: L/Wake Forest
2008: 8-5, 3-4 BE International Bowl: W/Buffalo
2009: 8-5, 3-4 BE Papa John’s Bowl: W/South Carolina
2010: 8-5, 5-2 BE Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: L/Oklahoma
2011: 5-7, 3-4 BE.
2012: 5-7, 2-5 BE.
2013: 3-9, 3-5 AAC.
2014: 2-10, 1-7 AAC.
2015: 6-7, 4-4 AAC St. Petersburg Bowl: L/Marshall
2016: 3-9, 1-7 AAC.
2017: 3-9, 2-6 AAC.
2018: 1-11, 0-8 AAC

That is sooooo ^^^ UGLY 03-puke

uconn should've NEVER gotten in football. Yikes
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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-26-2019 02:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Cliff Notes:

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

I wonder how difficult it is to Finance $81M Operating Expenses on $40M Gross Revenue?

That should be an "interesting" Balance Sheet for any independent Accounting Auditor to get a hold of.
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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-26-2019 09:52 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  UCONN football, year-by-year since moving up from FCS in 2000. One FCS-opponent per season beginning in 2001.

2000: 3-8. Independent. 3 FCS opponents.
2001: 2-9. Independent.
2002: 6-6. Independent.
2003: 9-3. Independent.
2004: 8-4, 3-3 BE Motor City Bowl: W/Toledo
2005: 5-6, 2-5 BE.
2006: 4-8, 1-6 BE.
2007: 9-4, 5-2 BE Meineke Car Care Bowl: L/Wake Forest
2008: 8-5, 3-4 BE International Bowl: W/Buffalo
2009: 8-5, 3-4 BE Papa John’s Bowl: W/South Carolina
2010: 8-5, 5-2 BE Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: L/Oklahoma
2011: 5-7, 3-4 BE.
2012: 5-7, 2-5 BE.
2013: 3-9, 3-5 AAC.
2014: 2-10, 1-7 AAC.
2015: 6-7, 4-4 AAC St. Petersburg Bowl: L/Marshall
2016: 3-9, 1-7 AAC.
2017: 3-9, 2-6 AAC.
2018: 1-11, 0-8 AAC

That's actually a lot better than I thought UConn had done. Only 1 1-win season. Duke had plenty of those back in the 90's and 00's and now they're pretty good. All it takes is a little institutional commitment and a good coach. We'll never know if UConn could have done it now.
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(06-26-2019 06:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 06:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 05:56 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 05:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Cliff Notes:

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

13) Mentions HuskyU has zero plans for his AAC Board strategy and for that, he is a light weight.


I can’t wait for a late night, wine spritzer induced eff you all rant from HuskyU

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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-26-2019 08:45 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 07:57 PM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  UCONN is the state flagship school, and you can't afford to field a football team?

(06-26-2019 08:06 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  I’m stumped on the finances though. You all were making more money than most of the other members. Memphis has had to grind for everything we got.

It's less about not being able to afford football than it is simply choosing what to prioritize and where they want to be long term (remember that the school that "doesn't have two nickels to rub together" is voluntarily writing an eight-figure check to go play their preferred schools) . I can't stress this enough - it's just different in New England. College football is a sideshow to pro football that functionally only exists on TV screens, and college basketball is the bigger deal up here. Football was never meant to be the headliner - it was elevated only because UConn saw a split coming and wanted to stick with BC and Syracuse (which, by the way, should show you how genuine the whole "public land-grant" spiel from the UConn Football Truthers is). Once that didn't happen, and other big revenue avenues didn't pan out, lots and lots of people started giving the football program the side-eye.

Here's the thing though: going to UConn football games can still be a lot of fun! I had season tickets all four years I was there (back in the OBE days) and enjoyed it. It just shouldn't be the focus of the administration any more. If they continue on as an independent in some capacity I'll still go to games and wish the program well. Being a football school's never going to happen though, which is probably bizarre to people down south.

The fact remains, UConn killed their struggling FBall program and the precedent has been set, no P5 conference makes a choice based largly on BBall. So I hope $4mm a year from the BE was worth the branding value.
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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-26-2019 10:36 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Cliff Notes:

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

I wonder how difficult it is to Finance $81M Operating Expenses on $40M Gross Revenue?

That should be an "interesting" Balance Sheet for any independent Accounting Auditor to get a hold of.

This is what happens to every business that overlevarges itself.
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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-27-2019 12:35 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 10:36 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Cliff Notes:

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

I wonder how difficult it is to Finance $81M Operating Expenses on $40M Gross Revenue?

That should be an "interesting" Balance Sheet for any independent Accounting Auditor to get a hold of.

This is what happens to every business that overlevages itself.

Rutgers and Louisville faced massive debt but held on. The state flagship of rich a$$ CT has to swallow their pride and accept nothing all while the second best school in the massive state of Cuntucky get to reap millions. Nice quit job. Incredible vision
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RE: SIR article detailing 12 reasons UConn’s move was a bad one
(06-26-2019 09:52 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  UCONN football, year-by-year since moving up from FCS in 2000. One FCS-opponent per season beginning in 2001.

2000: 3-8. Independent. 3 FCS opponents.
2001: 2-9. Independent.
2002: 6-6. Independent.
2003: 9-3. Independent.
2004: 8-4, 3-3 BE Motor City Bowl: W/Toledo
2005: 5-6, 2-5 BE.
2006: 4-8, 1-6 BE.
2007: 9-4, 5-2 BE Meineke Car Care Bowl: L/Wake Forest
2008: 8-5, 3-4 BE International Bowl: W/Buffalo
2009: 8-5, 3-4 BE Papa John’s Bowl: W/South Carolina
2010: 8-5, 5-2 BE Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: L/Oklahoma
2011: 5-7, 3-4 BE.
2012: 5-7, 2-5 BE.
2013: 3-9, 3-5 AAC.
2014: 2-10, 1-7 AAC.
2015: 6-7, 4-4 AAC St. Petersburg Bowl: L/Marshall
2016: 3-9, 1-7 AAC.
2017: 3-9, 2-6 AAC.
2018: 1-11, 0-8 AAC

Rutgers was no better and had the slight little difference of not winning multiple national championships in both mens and womens bball. This is the point, UConn admin threw in the towel all while schools with arguably less to sell are still trying. It is cutting off their nose to save their short term admin paychecks and excuse why they have lost so much money and fans. Reality is they chocked hiring coaches. Mighg have been the worst two recent FBall hires in all FBS.
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(06-26-2019 06:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 06:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 05:56 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 05:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Cliff Notes:

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

13) Mentions HuskyU has zero plans for his AAC Board strategy and for that, he is a light weight.


I can’t wait for a late night, wine spritzer induced eff you all rant from HuskyU

haha wine spritzer...she does love her spritzers.


With Ritz crackers and spray cheese

Get everyone together for a mixer. Is there a better way for us to get together? I just want you to know I love all of you.
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(06-26-2019 06:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 06:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 05:56 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 05:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Cliff Notes:

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

13) Mentions HuskyU has zero plans for his AAC Board strategy and for that, he is a light weight.


I can’t wait for a late night, wine spritzer induced eff you all rant from HuskyU

haha wine spritzer...she does love her spritzers.


With Ritz crackers and spray cheese

Get everyone together for a mixer. Is there a better way for us to get together? I just want you to know I love you all.
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(06-26-2019 07:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  I hope it works for UCONN, who knows what the future holds in college sports anyway, lots of big changes in the very near future for all of us

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Think it's a big mistake. They should have stayed in the American

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(06-27-2019 09:20 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Think it's a big mistake. They should have stayed in the American

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(06-27-2019 09:20 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Think it's a big mistake. They should have stayed in the American
Well, maybe. If they know that FBS-football is simply not a good fit for their students, their alums, and their (lack of a better phrase) “institutional culture”, then this decision is probably correct in the long-run. But the implementation of this decision... Yikes.
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(06-26-2019 09:23 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 08:45 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 07:57 PM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  UCONN is the state flagship school, and you can't afford to field a football team?

(06-26-2019 08:06 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  I’m stumped on the finances though. You all were making more money than most of the other members. Memphis has had to grind for everything we got.

It's less about not being able to afford football than it is simply choosing what to prioritize and where they want to be long term (remember that the school that "doesn't have two nickels to rub together" is voluntarily writing an eight-figure check to go play their preferred schools) . I can't stress this enough - it's just different in New England. College football is a sideshow to pro football that functionally only exists on TV screens, and college basketball is the bigger deal up here. Football was never meant to be the headliner - it was elevated only because UConn saw a split coming and wanted to stick with BC and Syracuse (which, by the way, should show you how genuine the whole "public land-grant" spiel from the UConn Football Truthers is). Once that didn't happen, and other big revenue avenues didn't pan out, lots and lots of people started giving the football program the side-eye.

Here's the thing though: going to UConn football games can still be a lot of fun! I had season tickets all four years I was there (back in the OBE days) and enjoyed it. It just shouldn't be the focus of the administration any more. If they continue on as an independent in some capacity I'll still go to games and wish the program well. Being a football school's never going to happen though, which is probably bizarre to people down south.


Memphis is more basketball then football....which is not the norm in the South.

Good luck!


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(06-27-2019 12:44 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(06-27-2019 12:35 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 10:36 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Cliff Notes:

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

I wonder how difficult it is to Finance $81M Operating Expenses on $40M Gross Revenue?

That should be an "interesting" Balance Sheet for any independent Accounting Auditor to get a hold of.

This is what happens to every business that overlevages itself.

Rutgers and Louisville faced massive debt but held on. The state flagship of rich a$$ CT has to swallow their pride and accept nothing all while the second best school in the massive state of Cuntucky get to reap millions. Nice quit job. Incredible vision

UConn's problem is that they have no vison. They just dream of a past that no longer exists and that has passed them by. That's what old boosters do in wheel chairs at the HOME. 07-coffee3
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