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I think people are going to wait at least one more year on Huepel. He inherited an undefeated team returning a lot of talent (especially on offense) - and most of these kids are going to be back next year as well.
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Major Applewhite is definitely on the hot seat but I think he barely survives for final contract year. D-Coordinator D'onifrio will be sent packing once the season is over. The real concern for Houston is can we keep Kendall Briles? There is talk of firing Applewhite to make Briles the head coach and OC. One thing is certain we need better coaching on the defense, special teams and most of all need a better strength and conditioning program. We have 15 scholarship players severely injured including 4 star QB, 4 star, WR, 4 Star Defensive End and the entire starting D-Line. Maybe we were just unlucky but I think some changes are looming if not major changes.
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(11-19-2018 10:13 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  #FireEdsall

#FireUCONNFootball

Maybe you guys should try a feline mascot? I think that would help.
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(11-19-2018 12:21 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:49 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:29 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:23 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 10:52 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  In other words, Fickell's probably not leaving to coach Purdue or Louisville. I feel confident that we have the budget to pay him $3 million plus if that ends up being necessary within the next year or two.

We thought the same thing about Rhule, and he even bought a $2M house right before leaving. We were prepared to pay him $3M a year too. His last reported earnings were $2.445M.

As a fan base with much more experience losing quality coaches than Temple...I think we understand that all of this is subjective and really not something we're every going to know about until it comes out on ESPN, but the Fickell background is very different than that of Dantonio, Kelly, and Jones.

Golden- Miami
Addazio- BC
Rhule- Baylor

But okay?

As BearcatMan said, Fickell is a different situation than most coaches that have used AAC schools as stepping stones. Not saying he is unpoachable, but he is less likely to be poached than any of the coaches listed above. If the right job comes calling, he will take it. But he's likely not going to leave for a P5 bottom-dweller, nor is he likely to have interest in a job that takes him to a different part of the country. He's Columbus born and raised, went to OSU, and his 19-year coaching career includes 15 years at OSU, 2 years at Akron, and 2 years at Cincinnati.

It's almost exactly the same situation as Rhule. Rhule also spent a total of 10 years coaching at Temple, unlike Fickell at UC.
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(11-19-2018 12:28 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Major Applewhite is definitely on the hot seat but I think he barely survives for final contract year. D-Coordinator D'onifrio will be sent packing once the season is over. The real concern for Houston is can we keep Kendall Briles? There is talk of firing Applewhite to make Briles the head coach and OC. One thing is certain we need better coaching on the defense, special teams and most of all need a better strength and conditioning program. We have 15 scholarship players severely injured including 4 star QB, 4 star, WR, 4 Star Defensive End and the entire starting D-Line. Maybe we were just unlucky but I think some changes are looming if not major changes.


I just don't see Applewhite being seriously on the hot seat. Warm maybe, but not hot. He made the good adjustment on the OC in the offseason last year, so he'll get the chance to do the same on the DC. It's obvious it needs to be done, being dead last in pretty much every defensive statistic and metric when the best player in college football is on your defensive team, there's no ifs, ands, or buts that can save this DC's job.

Injuries are the biggest reason Applewhite's job isn't in jeopardy this year, and one can argue that without the injuries, our record might've been better, so no, I don't think Applewhite is feeling heat.

If next year the defense responds to a new DC the way the offense responded to the new OC this year, I'm not sure what there'll be to complain about Applewhite.

Now, retaining the OC might be problematic, but let's hope we pay the guy and make him not want to go, the same way they were throwing cash at Herman before he left.
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(11-19-2018 11:49 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:29 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:23 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 10:52 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  In other words, Fickell's probably not leaving to coach Purdue or Louisville. I feel confident that we have the budget to pay him $3 million plus if that ends up being necessary within the next year or two.

We thought the same thing about Rhule, and he even bought a $2M house right before leaving. We were prepared to pay him $3M a year too. His last reported earnings were $2.445M.

As a fan base with much more experience losing quality coaches than Temple...I think we understand that all of this is subjective and really not something we're every going to know about until it comes out on ESPN, but the Fickell background is very different than that of Dantonio, Kelly, and Jones.

Golden- Miami
Addazio- BC
Rhule- Baylor

But okay?

Please note the word quality in my OP.
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(11-19-2018 01:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 12:21 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:49 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:29 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 11:23 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  We thought the same thing about Rhule, and he even bought a $2M house right before leaving. We were prepared to pay him $3M a year too. His last reported earnings were $2.445M.

As a fan base with much more experience losing quality coaches than Temple...I think we understand that all of this is subjective and really not something we're every going to know about until it comes out on ESPN, but the Fickell background is very different than that of Dantonio, Kelly, and Jones.

Golden- Miami
Addazio- BC
Rhule- Baylor

But okay?

As BearcatMan said, Fickell is a different situation than most coaches that have used AAC schools as stepping stones. Not saying he is unpoachable, but he is less likely to be poached than any of the coaches listed above. If the right job comes calling, he will take it. But he's likely not going to leave for a P5 bottom-dweller, nor is he likely to have interest in a job that takes him to a different part of the country. He's Columbus born and raised, went to OSU, and his 19-year coaching career includes 15 years at OSU, 2 years at Akron, and 2 years at Cincinnati.

It's almost exactly the same situation as Rhule. Rhule also spent a total of 10 years coaching at Temple, unlike Fickell at UC.

Weird, I didn't realize UCLA, Western Carolina, and the New York Giants were all located in Pennsylvania. Also, who knew two toddlers were the same as 6 children in middle school and high school. Man, I must be lost here.
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(11-19-2018 01:17 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 12:28 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Major Applewhite is definitely on the hot seat but I think he barely survives for final contract year. D-Coordinator D'onifrio will be sent packing once the season is over. The real concern for Houston is can we keep Kendall Briles? There is talk of firing Applewhite to make Briles the head coach and OC. One thing is certain we need better coaching on the defense, special teams and most of all need a better strength and conditioning program. We have 15 scholarship players severely injured including 4 star QB, 4 star, WR, 4 Star Defensive End and the entire starting D-Line. Maybe we were just unlucky but I think some changes are looming if not major changes.


I just don't see Applewhite being seriously on the hot seat. Warm maybe, but not hot. He made the good adjustment on the OC in the offseason last year, so he'll get the chance to do the same on the DC. It's obvious it needs to be done, being dead last in pretty much every defensive statistic and metric when the best player in college football is on your defensive team, there's no ifs, ands, or buts that can save this DC's job.

Injuries are the biggest reason Applewhite's job isn't in jeopardy this year, and one can argue that without the injuries, our record might've been better, so no, I don't think Applewhite is feeling heat.

If next year the defense responds to a new DC the way the offense responded to the new OC this year, I'm not sure what there'll be to complain about Applewhite.

Now, retaining the OC might be problematic, but let's hope we pay the guy and make him not want to go, the same way they were throwing cash at Herman before he left.

I think that keeping Briles will be a challenge.... not because he might leave for another OC position but because he might leave for a HC position.

Charlotte in CUSA comes to mind. Hell, I have warmed to having him come to Greenville when Mo is no longer employed here.

Texas State could be another job that he might be interested in.

Then, there's North Texas... who could very well lose their coach this year.
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I just don't buy there is serious talk from actually decision makers to fire Applewhite and replace with CKB. I think it's fans. I said in another post, it's a different thing to hire CKB as OC then coach. He'll get his opportunity in due time but it's just a different type of attention to do it now.

IMO, Applewhite job was saved with Tulane win and King's injury. He'll need to start the recruiting process of DC's ASAP. UH admin will need to loosen the purse strings a little to get a quality hire.
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(11-19-2018 02:10 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 01:17 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 12:28 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Major Applewhite is definitely on the hot seat but I think he barely survives for final contract year. D-Coordinator D'onifrio will be sent packing once the season is over. The real concern for Houston is can we keep Kendall Briles? There is talk of firing Applewhite to make Briles the head coach and OC. One thing is certain we need better coaching on the defense, special teams and most of all need a better strength and conditioning program. We have 15 scholarship players severely injured including 4 star QB, 4 star, WR, 4 Star Defensive End and the entire starting D-Line. Maybe we were just unlucky but I think some changes are looming if not major changes.


I just don't see Applewhite being seriously on the hot seat. Warm maybe, but not hot. He made the good adjustment on the OC in the offseason last year, so he'll get the chance to do the same on the DC. It's obvious it needs to be done, being dead last in pretty much every defensive statistic and metric when the best player in college football is on your defensive team, there's no ifs, ands, or buts that can save this DC's job.

Injuries are the biggest reason Applewhite's job isn't in jeopardy this year, and one can argue that without the injuries, our record might've been better, so no, I don't think Applewhite is feeling heat.

If next year the defense responds to a new DC the way the offense responded to the new OC this year, I'm not sure what there'll be to complain about Applewhite.

Now, retaining the OC might be problematic, but let's hope we pay the guy and make him not want to go, the same way they were throwing cash at Herman before he left.

I think that keeping Briles will be a challenge.... not because he might leave for another OC position but because he might leave for a HC position.

Charlotte in CUSA comes to mind. Hell, I have warmed to having him come to Greenville when Mo is no longer employed here.

Texas State could be another job that he might be interested in.

Then, there's North Texas... who could very well lose their coach this year.

I agree with CKB at this level for HC. That will be something to watch.

UH making that move I just think is fan chatter.
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(11-19-2018 09:46 AM)vick mike Wrote:  Rumors around Temples Geoff Collins about possible P5 poaching. He’s a second year HC with a 14-10 record and a bowl win. Both years he’s had slow or terrible starts and turned things for the better as the season progresses. (IMO correcting his own mistakes)

If I’m a P5 AD, not sure he’s ready, but could see him gone this year.

Cincinnati- will Luke Fickell get interest due to the great turn around this year?

ECU-will Montgomery be fired?

UCF- does Heupel get consideration?

Think Strong at USF and Edsall at UConn are staying put.

Navy, SMU and Tulane seem set. Is Applewhite at Houston or Montgomery at Tulsa on the red hot seat?
Fickell could be a hot property. The dude can coach...and turned Cincy around quick

Montgomery should be fired. great guy...not a very good head coach.

Heupel will probably have to stay at UCF for another year..

Edsall has shocked me.. in that I thought UConn would be playing much tougher...maybe not a lot more wins...but much more competitive week in and week out. Edsall aslo has not groomed a QB for next year...and I think Pindell is a senior...so next year could be rough. I think Edsall will be back, because he was such a success his 1st time as HC at UConn....with a whole new staff around him... he also needs to get some transfer for the Huskies next year..

Montgomery at Tulsa may get one more year... to get it back on track at Tulsa. Tulsa has a good young QB coming back.
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Briles to ECU makes a lot of sense.
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I'm afraid we could hesitate to open the checkbook for K. Briles given the baggage he brings that saw some fans boycott games this year but don't think so. We certainly have the ability to pay big $. More so than anyone in the AAC. Tillman was offering Herman 5 million. We need Tillman to jack Briles Salary up near a million.
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Montgomery's ass is on fire.
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It's Saban or bust for UCONN.
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Coaches on the hot seat.

4 of the top 10 hottest seats are AAC or former AAC coaches...

9 of the top 30 coaches on the hot seat are AAC or former AAC coaches

Guys like Chad Morris who jump from AAC programs as quickly as they can deserve to fail...

I thought Matt Rhule was a hell of a good coach... but he jumped to soon... Baylor is a dumpster fire..

I assume Scottie Montgomery's seat is not hotter is because ECU has money issues and cannot afford to buy this guy out...


Edsall is gone if this list is correct...
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Really hoping current coach Willie Fritz doesn’t have the same problem as his predecessor Curtis Johnson and stick by his OC until it costs him his job. Both have wasted some stellar Ds and RBs do to not figuring out how to adjust playcalls/build a solid Oline.

WF is major improvement on CJ but if his loyalty keeps us at the 5 win mark, he won’t be around much longer either.
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(11-19-2018 02:23 PM)willhclark Wrote:  I'm afraid we could hesitate to open the checkbook for K. Briles given the baggage he brings that saw some fans boycott games this year but don't think so. We certainly have the ability to pay big $. More so than anyone in the AAC. Tillman was offering Herman 5 million. We need Tillman to jack Briles Salary up near a million.

I do think CKB will get a new contract offer, it's going to be tough to see what they come up with. Major is at $1.7m so I think getting CKB close to $1mill and a new DC with this current state of UH FB is going to be tough. CKB gets now $400k maybe $500k-$550k base new 2 yr deal with intensives. Tillman and others were willing to pay $5mil for Herman as he could had made a special run at UH.
UH's assistant pool is very competitive. It's not can they pay, it's ca Major get the right ones. OC he seemed to get right. Now let's see what he can do for DC.
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(11-19-2018 02:59 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Coaches on the hot seat.

4 of the top 10 hottest seats are AAC or former AAC coaches...

9 of the top 30 coaches on the hot seat are AAC or former AAC coaches

Guys like Chad Morris who jump from AAC programs as quickly as they can deserve to fail...

I thought Matt Rhule was a hell of a good coach... but he jumped to soon... Baylor is a dumpster fire..

I assume Scottie Montgomery's seat is not hotter is because ECU has money issues and cannot afford to buy this guy out...


Edsall is gone if this list is correct...

Mo's seat is on fire and will be ash if Cincy skulldrags us across the field like most are expecting. We'll find the money to fire him because we can't afford not to.
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(11-19-2018 04:11 PM)Lethemeul Wrote:  
(11-19-2018 02:59 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Coaches on the hot seat.

4 of the top 10 hottest seats are AAC or former AAC coaches...

9 of the top 30 coaches on the hot seat are AAC or former AAC coaches

Guys like Chad Morris who jump from AAC programs as quickly as they can deserve to fail...

I thought Matt Rhule was a hell of a good coach... but he jumped to soon... Baylor is a dumpster fire..

I assume Scottie Montgomery's seat is not hotter is because ECU has money issues and cannot afford to buy this guy out...


Edsall is gone if this list is correct...

Mo's seat is on fire and will be ash if Cincy skulldrags us across the field like most are expecting. We'll find the money to fire him because we can't afford not to.
The money is there. The problem is the donors want to know that the current (or future) Chancellor shares the same long-term vision for ECU athletics. Lots of questions remain with Staton at the helm and no AD. Until the AD and Chancellor situation becomes clear, donors aren't going to hand over that kind of cash for another mediocre coach and AD
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