(06-23-2018 06:55 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  XFL won't go to St. Louis for the same reason the Alliance league couldn't. The Dome is actually booked during February, March and April with conventions. That is convention season and the Dome is part of the convention center.

If the CFL would ever try south of the border again, St. Louis would be perfect for it. Not much activity in the convention center game during the summer and early fall.

I can't imagine CFL will ever try to dip back into the States again let alone as far south as St Louis

As awesome as it would be for the XFL to be in Little Rock I just can't see that either I think they'll stick with major media markets

I think AAF has a leg up, having already announced their cities. With San Diego and San Antonio out west and Memphis, Orlando and Birmingham in the south, they have locked up some good cities that don’t already have NFL teams.

The question is will the XFL get far enough in their rebirth to actually announce cities???

Names have been announced. Atlanta Legends, Birmingham Iron, Memphis Express and Orlando Apollos. This league looks more and more like play will actually happen after football season. Still nothing coming out of the XFL. Anyone in these cities excited about this, or will that come when the realization that the real football season is coming to an end???

Way too much going on here for anyone to notice.


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(09-20-2018 08:34 PM)panama Wrote:  Way too much going on here for anyone to notice.


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Yeah, still not sure why they put a team in ATL. I get Orlando, Birmingham and Memphis, but they would have done better in Columbus, GA, Jackson, MS, Little Rock, Mobile, Montgomery, Shreveport, Dothan, AL, and that’s just the towns I can come up with off hand that have stadiums and nothing else going on to compete with minor league football.

(09-20-2018 08:56 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-20-2018 08:34 PM)panama Wrote:  Way too much going on here for anyone to notice.


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Yeah, still not sure why they put a team in ATL. I get Orlando, Birmingham and Memphis, but they would have done better in Columbus, GA, Jackson, MS, Little Rock, Mobile, Montgomery, Shreveport, Dothan, AL, and that’s just the towns I can come up with off hand that have stadiums and nothing else going on to compete with minor league football.

As someone born and raised in Columbus, Ga the area will not support it. We lost our minor league baseball, basketball and hockey due to lack of support. The arena football can draw some. The city would regular support the stupid Whitewater Express. Would have been better trying Savannah or Macon in Ga.

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(09-20-2018 08:33 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Names have been announced. Atlanta Legends, Birmingham Iron, Memphis Express and Orlando Apollos. This league looks more and more like play will actually happen after football season. Still nothing coming out of the XFL. Anyone in these cities excited about this, or will that come when the realization that the real football season is coming to an end???

XFL won't start until 2020, so there won't be much news on that for now. I wouldn't be surprised if they go to cities in the northern US since every team in the AAF is more southern based.

(09-21-2018 08:16 AM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  

(09-20-2018 08:33 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Names have been announced. Atlanta Legends, Birmingham Iron, Memphis Express and Orlando Apollos. This league looks more and more like play will actually happen after football season. Still nothing coming out of the XFL. Anyone in these cities excited about this, or will that come when the realization that the real football season is coming to an end???

XFL won't start until 2020, so there won't be much news on that for now. I wouldn't be surprised if they go to cities in the northern US since every team in the AAF is more southern based.

Not every team, just the 4 eastern teams are. They have a western team in Salt Lake. The 2020 XFL is only 15 months away, and they haven’t even announced cities.

(09-21-2018 09:04 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 08:16 AM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  

(09-20-2018 08:33 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Names have been announced. Atlanta Legends, Birmingham Iron, Memphis Express and Orlando Apollos. This league looks more and more like play will actually happen after football season. Still nothing coming out of the XFL. Anyone in these cities excited about this, or will that come when the realization that the real football season is coming to an end???

XFL won't start until 2020, so there won't be much news on that for now. I wouldn't be surprised if they go to cities in the northern US since every team in the AAF is more southern based.

Not every team, just the 4 eastern teams are. They have a western team in Salt Lake. The 2020 XFL is only 15 months away, and they haven’t even announced cities.

Right, besides Salt Lake, the entire league is based in the southern half of the US...not just referring to the southeast.

I'm betting the XFL goes north....northeast, northwest, etc.

What I see is AAF is backed by people who know the professional football and TV sports business. XFL is backed by Vince McMahon. Gonna go out on a limb and guess AAF does fine and XFL struggles if it even materializes.

(09-21-2018 10:59 AM)panama Wrote:  What I see is AAF is backed by people who know the professional football and TV sports business. XFL is backed by Vince McMahon. Gonna go out on a limb and guess AAF does fine and XFL struggles if it even materializes.

100 percent agree

I agree as well, it’s all about the product on the field, not how many strippers you can get into the stands. I just hope they have working capital for at least 3 years to get some solid ground under them and a couple more teams added to the league.

XFL is likely the better funded league and not splashing in last minute as happened with XFL1 bodes well for the planning.

Vince

MvMahon...

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(09-21-2018 12:12 PM)panama Wrote:  Vince

MvMahon...

Is a scum bag. Might be a marketing genius, but he markets trash.

(06-22-2018 07:17 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 04:38 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 03:41 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 03:21 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 03:02 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  Do ya'll reckon these teams will create some US players that can actually qualify for the World Cup?

They could do as well as the current USMT.....

If the league can figure out how to dip into the NFL pockets and be an actual minor league system, they have a shot on sticking. Right now the NCAA is happily filling that roll.

So NCAA soccer is more akin to minor league baseball than it is to college football/basketball? That's intriguing.

I fixed some of my terrible typing.

And, huh???

I was just wondering what "minor league" soccer is........ is it like football with college being the "minor league" or baseball where there are teams that draft without a college education? Are the "minor" teams like farm teams?

There is no such thing as "Minor League soccer" I guess Americans use the minor league terms because they are too lazy to explain it normally.

There are divisions within soccer. In the US, the Top Division is the 22 or 30,000 teams (Whatever that idiot Garber wants) in MLS. The 2nd Division is the United Soccer League, which contains somewhere around 30 plus teams. 90 percent of those teams are completely independent. The players are their property, and can be bought by the club, or sold to other leagues, or traded to clubs within the same league. If an MLS club wants a USL player, they must pay the USL Club money to secure the club releasing the player from his contract.

Now...there are a few notable exceptions. Each MLS Side fields what is called a "reserve side" Those are players owned by the MLS club, but are usually too young and inexperienced. They are placed in the reserve team to get valuable match experience. 4 or 5 of those Reserve teams play within the USL. Those players usually stay with the reserve side and remain on the clubs roster for an entire season. The idea of a call up is rare because of roster size restrictions.

Beyond D2, there's a D3 product that the USL is starting this year which has 8 or 9 teams in smaller cities around the US. Division Four and Below are usually amateur clubs. You run into a lot of those guys who are on college rosters, but are allowed to play for an amateur club in the summer. Below that you run into the various Sunday Adult Soccer Leagues around the country.

The one big difference is unlike baseball, where a AAA team can never play a major league club outside of a exhibition with the parent club. Soccer Cup competitions regularly allow for the possibility of any club to be paired against an MLS club for a match provided they win enough games to reach that point. You'll fairly regularly see MLS clubs face USL clubs, and there's always one or two matches a season where a 4th or 5th Division Club plays an MLS Club. In Europe and the rest of the World, teams in each league face Promotion and relegation, where the last place club from a particular league, or bottom 3 in Europe, are automatically forced to play in a lower division, where they are replaced by the top 3 clubs from the Division below them. Eventually that might hit the US One day, and there are a lot that want it, but the mega rich MLS owners aren't exactly fans of the idea that their club could be forced to drop down to USL and forfeit all their TV and gate revenue for one bad year. It was a point of conversation in the last US Soccer Presidential Elections.

(09-21-2018 12:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 07:17 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 04:38 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 03:41 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 03:21 PM)Usajags Wrote:  They could do as well as the current USMT.....

If the league can figure out how to dip into the NFL pockets and be an actual minor league system, they have a shot on sticking. Right now the NCAA is happily filling that roll.

So NCAA soccer is more akin to minor league baseball than it is to college football/basketball? That's intriguing.

I fixed some of my terrible typing.

And, huh???

I was just wondering what "minor league" soccer is........ is it like football with college being the "minor league" or baseball where there are teams that draft without a college education? Are the "minor" teams like farm teams?

There is no such thing as "Minor League soccer" I guess Americans use the minor league terms because they are too lazy to explain it normally.

There are divisions within soccer. In the US, the Top Division is the 22 or 30,000 teams (Whatever that idiot Garber wants) in MLS. The 2nd Division is the United Soccer League, which contains somewhere around 30 plus teams. 90 percent of those teams are completely independent. The players are their property, and can be bought by the club, or sold to other leagues, or traded to clubs within the same league. If an MLS club wants a USL player, they must pay the USL Club money to secure the club releasing the player from his contract.

Now...there are a few notable exceptions. Each MLS Side fields what is called a "reserve side" Those are players owned by the MLS club, but are usually too young and inexperienced. They are placed in the reserve team to get valuable match experience. 4 or 5 of those Reserve teams play within the USL. Those players usually stay with the reserve side and remain on the clubs roster for an entire season. The idea of a call up is rare because of roster size restrictions.

Beyond D2, there's a D3 product that the USL is starting this year which has 8 or 9 teams in smaller cities around the US. Division Four and Below are usually amateur clubs. You run into a lot of those guys who are on college rosters, but are allowed to play for an amateur club in the summer. Below that you run into the various Sunday Adult Soccer Leagues around the country.

The one big difference is unlike baseball, where a AAA team can never play a major league club outside of a exhibition with the parent club. Soccer Cup competitions regularly allow for the possibility of any club to be paired against an MLS club for a match provided they win enough games to reach that point. You'll fairly regularly see MLS clubs face USL clubs, and there's always one or two matches a season where a 4th or 5th Division Club plays an MLS Club. In Europe and the rest of the World, teams in each league face Promotion and relegation, where the last place club from a particular league, or bottom 3 in Europe, are automatically forced to play in a lower division, where they are replaced by the top 3 clubs from the Division below them. Eventually that might hit the US One day, and there are a lot that want it, but the mega rich MLS owners aren't exactly fans of the idea that their club could be forced to drop down to USL and forfeit all their TV and gate revenue for one bad year. It was a point of conversation in the last US Soccer Presidential Elections.

And, hopefully, one day, we will have promotion/relegation between tiers. MLS may never sign off on it, but it should be enforced to include them.

Can you imagine Atlanta United getting relegated?

Disaster

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(09-21-2018 01:09 PM)panama Wrote:  Can you imagine Atlanta United getting relegated?

Disaster

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Win and you don’t have to worry about it.

(09-21-2018 12:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 07:17 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 04:38 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 03:41 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 03:21 PM)Usajags Wrote:  They could do as well as the current USMT.....

If the league can figure out how to dip into the NFL pockets and be an actual minor league system, they have a shot on sticking. Right now the NCAA is happily filling that roll.

So NCAA soccer is more akin to minor league baseball than it is to college football/basketball? That's intriguing.

I fixed some of my terrible typing.

And, huh???

I was just wondering what "minor league" soccer is........ is it like football with college being the "minor league" or baseball where there are teams that draft without a college education? Are the "minor" teams like farm teams?

There is no such thing as "Minor League soccer" I guess Americans use the minor league terms because they are too lazy to explain it normally.

There are divisions within soccer. In the US, the Top Division is the 22 or 30,000 teams (Whatever that idiot Garber wants) in MLS. The 2nd Division is the United Soccer League, which contains somewhere around 30 plus teams. 90 percent of those teams are completely independent. The players are their property, and can be bought by the club, or sold to other leagues, or traded to clubs within the same league. If an MLS club wants a USL player, they must pay the USL Club money to secure the club releasing the player from his contract.

Now...there are a few notable exceptions. Each MLS Side fields what is called a "reserve side" Those are players owned by the MLS club, but are usually too young and inexperienced. They are placed in the reserve team to get valuable match experience. 4 or 5 of those Reserve teams play within the USL. Those players usually stay with the reserve side and remain on the clubs roster for an entire season. The idea of a call up is rare because of roster size restrictions.

Beyond D2, there's a D3 product that the USL is starting this year which has 8 or 9 teams in smaller cities around the US. Division Four and Below are usually amateur clubs. You run into a lot of those guys who are on college rosters, but are allowed to play for an amateur club in the summer. Below that you run into the various Sunday Adult Soccer Leagues around the country.

The one big difference is unlike baseball, where a AAA team can never play a major league club outside of a exhibition with the parent club. Soccer Cup competitions regularly allow for the possibility of any club to be paired against an MLS club for a match provided they win enough games to reach that point. You'll fairly regularly see MLS clubs face USL clubs, and there's always one or two matches a season where a 4th or 5th Division Club plays an MLS Club. In Europe and the rest of the World, teams in each league face Promotion and relegation, where the last place club from a particular league, or bottom 3 in Europe, are automatically forced to play in a lower division, where they are replaced by the top 3 clubs from the Division below them. Eventually that might hit the US One day, and there are a lot that want it, but the mega rich MLS owners aren't exactly fans of the idea that their club could be forced to drop down to USL and forfeit all their TV and gate revenue for one bad year. It was a point of conversation in the last US Soccer Presidential Elections.

So basically minor league soccer?