(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
(01-24-2018 11:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote: But it does here He names about 4 players that won't be playing Memphis somewhere between min 1 and min 2
Two posts ago you say "I didn't say I did". Now its an Avery video I guess implying otherwise. So which is it?
I still didn't say I did. I'm just gathering data. Avery says 'it'.
Whatever Avery said, I'll repeat the facts: Davis has not played a second, Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
AT. THS. TIME. WE, PLAYED. THEM. they were missing what were expected to be and were then considered 4 of their top 6 players.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
AT. THS. TIME. WE, PLAYED. THEM. they were missing what were expected to be and were then considered 4 of their top 6 players.
Do you ge5 it?
Not true. Are you really this dense? Love how the anti-Tubby crowd changes the narrative when they are called out. Now it's "what were expected to be AND were then considered 4 of their top 6 players." Backtrack much? Gonna break your ankles.
Tell me how Ormond Davis was ever a top 4 player. He never started a game for Bama in his career.
The Alabama coach expected them to be his key players. So he drew up plays around them, I reckon. That's generally what coaches do.
Then it fell apart right before the season started and their players looked very loosy goosy to tell the truth, till they settled in a little and beat us.
(01-24-2018 10:52 PM)Tigx Wrote: Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Just making things clear. Since on January 24th, we're still getting this "4 of Bama's . . . " lunacy.
Quote:Just making things clear.
High comedy when you make a statement like this, because nothing is clear to you. Alabama was missing their top returning scorer, 2 of their 3 top returning scorers, 3 of their 5 top returning scorers AND the #5 recruit in the country.
So yes, at the time, everyone on the planet except you was aware of the FACT that Alabama was missing 4 key pieces.
(01-25-2018 12:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote: 'expected to be' is the key phrase.
Throw in 'what was then considered'.
The Alabama coach expected them to be his key players. So he drew up plays around them, I reckon. That's generally what coaches do.
Then it fell apart right before the season started and their players looked very loosy goosy to tell the truth, till they settled in a little and beat us.
Someone needs to get on the phone and explain to Avery Johnson that he is crazy, he is an idiot for saying that missing 3 of his top 5 returning scorers and a McDonald's AA is missing 4 key players. Someone needs to get him to come to this board so tigx can make things clear to him.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Tigx, the miserables have an agenda. Facts will not deter that agenda because they would have to accept the facts & change their near-religious negative fervor. So they gang up & hope to deflect, change the focus & bring enough group opposition to shout you down. They are a waste of time.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Tigx, the miserables have an agenda. Facts will not deter that agenda because they would have to accept the facts & change their near-religious negative fervor. So they gang up & hope to deflect, change the focus & bring enough group opposition to shout you down. They are a waste of time.
Again, contact Avery Johnson and let him know that he is an idiot religious zealot, deflector, agendite, and that Key, Norris and Davis were NOT 3 of his top 5 scorers and Sexton was NOT a McDonald's AA. He needs to know that we have 4 posters on this board that can set him straight on the facts.
Alabama Top Returning Scorers From 2017
1. Key - missing
3. Norris - missing
5. Davis - missing
Collin Sexton - missing
5 Nationally
1 Position
McDonald's AA
Quote:Facts will not deter that agenda because they would have to accept the facts & change their near-religious negative fervor.
The 4 of you are the Druids, the Raelists, the Jediists. Facts will never deter my opinions, you should try them.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Tigx, the miserables have an agenda. Facts will not deter that agenda because they would have to accept the facts & change their near-religious negative fervor. So they gang up & hope to deflect, change the focus & bring enough group opposition to shout you down. They are a waste of time.
Again, contact Avery Johnson and let him know that he is an idiot religious zealot, deflector, agendite, and that Key, Norris and Davis were NOT 3 of his top 5 scorers and Sexton was NOT a McDonald's AA. He needs to know that we have 4 posters on this board that can set him straight on the facts.
Alabama Top Returning Scorers From 2017
1. Key - missing
3. Norris - missing
5. Davis - missing
Collin Sexton - missing
5 Nationally
1 Position
McDonald's AA
Quote:Facts will not deter that agenda because they would have to accept the facts & change their near-religious negative fervor.
The 4 of you are the Druids, the Raelists, the Jediists. Facts will never deter my opinions, you should try them.
"Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers." - Tigx, clear & concise. No further comment required, if the facts are sought.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Eh, truth is somewhere in the middle...
Points is a very short sighted way to decide if a player is a key player on a team, see DJ Stephans type player.
- Norris averaged 20.9 minutes as a freshman, 28.2 as a sophomore and 27.3 as a junior. I would certainly consider that a key returning player, especially as senior
- Davis played 13.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 6 ppg and 1.5 rebounds. So coming into this year you probably expect 20 minutes and 8-10 ppg and 3 rebounds. Maybe not a "key" player but certainly a role player they were planning on relying on
- Key played 29.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 12 ppg, 5.7 rebounds, and 2.5 assists. Coming into his sophomore year he was definitely considered a key player, especially after a freshman year like that...
- Sexton was the 8 overall recruit in the country (per rivals) and was clearly expected to be a key player on the team.
Clearly, all 4 players were expected to have roles and at least 3 were expected to have pretty large roles on Alabama's team this year.
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2018 09:45 AM by Tygrys.)
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Eh, truth is somewhere in the middle...
Points is a very short sighted way to decide if a player is a key player on a team, see DJ Stephans type player.
- Norris averaged 20.9 minutes as a freshman, 28.2 as a sophomore and 27.3 as a junior. I would certainly consider that a key returning player, especially as senior
- Davis played 13.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 6 ppg and 1.5 rebounds. So coming into this year you probably expect 20 minutes and 8-10 ppg and 3 rebounds. Maybe not a "key" player but certainly a role player they were planning on relying on
- Key played 29.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 12 ppg, 5.7 rebounds, and 2.5 assists. Coming into his sophomore year he was definitely considered a key player, especially after a freshman year like that...
- Sexton was the 8 overall recruit in the country (per rivals) and was clearly expected to be a key player on the team.
Clearly all 4 players were expected to have roles and at least 3 were expected to have pretty large roles on Alabama's team this year.
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Eh, truth is somewhere in the middle...
Points is a very short sighted way to decide if a player is a key player on a team, see DJ Stephans type player.
- Norris averaged 20.9 minutes as a freshman, 28.2 as a sophomore and 27.3 as a junior. I would certainly consider that a key returning player, especially as senior
- Davis played 13.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 6 ppg and 1.5 rebounds. So coming into this year you probably expect 20 minutes and 8-10 ppg and 3 rebounds. Maybe not a "key" player but certainly a role player they were planning on relying on
- Key played 29.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 12 ppg, 5.7 rebounds, and 2.5 assists. Coming into his sophomore year he was definitely considered a key player, especially after a freshman year like that...
- Sexton was the 8 overall recruit in the country (per rivals) and was clearly expected to be a key player on the team.
Clearly all 4 players were expected to have roles and at least 3 were expected to have pretty large roles on Alabama's team this year.
Except one is reality & the other analysis......
Reality, like what they did last year? It is really not worth discussing if we just act like prior year performances do not matter on roster expectations, especially coming into the first game of the year...
Your argument is basically that we should have no expectations for players at the beginning of the year because that is just based on prior year analysis?
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2018 09:51 AM by Tygrys.)
(01-24-2018 10:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote: At the time we played them Alaama was missing 4 of what were then its top 6 players.
Absurd. This is what happens when people keep repeating untruths over and over.
Through Bama's 20 games, one of the 4 (Davis) has not played a second, and his Bama career is probably over. Key has played in only 10 games and scored 54 points all year. Norris has only played in 9 games and scored 43 points all year. Is Raynere Thornton one of our top players? Because he has scored almost as much as the 3 of them combined.
Sexton is their only top player who did not play against the Tigers.
Eh, truth is somewhere in the middle...
Points is a very short sighted way to decide if a player is a key player on a team, see DJ Stephans type player.
- Norris averaged 20.9 minutes as a freshman, 28.2 as a sophomore and 27.3 as a junior. I would certainly consider that a key returning player, especially as senior
- Davis played 13.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 6 ppg and 1.5 rebounds. So coming into this year you probably expect 20 minutes and 8-10 ppg and 3 rebounds. Maybe not a "key" player but certainly a role player they were planning on relying on
- Key played 29.8 minutes his freshman year and averaged 12 ppg, 5.7 rebounds, and 2.5 assists. Coming into his sophomore year he was definitely considered a key player, especially after a freshman year like that...
- Sexton was the 8 overall recruit in the country (per rivals) and was clearly expected to be a key player on the team.
Clearly all 4 players were expected to have roles and at least 3 were expected to have pretty large roles on Alabama's team this year.
Except one is reality & the other analysis......
Reality, like what they did last year? It is really not worth discussing if we just act like prior year performances do not matter on roster expectations, especially coming into the first game of the year...
Your argument is basically that we should have no expectations for players at the beginning of the year because that is just based on prior year analysis?
Reality IS what has happened through 20 games THIS season, analysis is what might have been predicted based upon last season & ratings. Reality vs analysis.........
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