My position on this subject has been well known. Most of us really object to the abuse of this site by nonconference posters with an agenda. Those outside agitators are essentially given free reign since it’s not your ox getting gored. So when it comes down to it, we’re ok with the trash talk among conference mates, we get it. Much of it is self inflicted. But when outsiders come in, we just don’t feel by and large like you’ve got our backs. (Not to say that I’ve never seen it - i have and I’m grateful when it happens and I’d especially point out that when it does happen it’s more from GS and App fans) but we would know that this board had our backs if certain posters from a cusa school would be banned. They aren’t.

(12-16-2017 05:48 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  My position on this subject has been well known. Most of us really object to the abuse of this site by nonconference posters with an agenda. Those outside agitators are essentially given free reign since it’s not your ox getting gored. So when it comes down to it, we’re ok with the trash talk among conference mates, we get it. Much of it is self inflicted. But when outsiders come in, we just don’t feel by and large like you’ve got our backs. (Not to say that I’ve never seen it - i have and I’m grateful when it happens and I’d especially point out that when it does happen it’s more from GS and App fans) but we would know that this board had our backs if certain posters from a cusa school would be banned. They aren’t.

Plenty of banning going on here. According to USAJAGS, the Laffy mod banned him and then got himself banned. Laffy-out-loud.

(12-16-2017 01:16 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 12:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  That is a problem they created on their own. By being so overly, stupidly, sensitive of the issue, it makes it the easiest target of their fanbase. If Cajun fans didn't get their panties in such a bunch every time someone made a comment, those comments would go away.

Every fan base has a sensitive spot, it's how you react to being touched in your sensitive spot to how people touch you there. And every time we want to make the Cajun fans cry we touch them in that spot, and get the exact reaction we are looking for.

How bad does it have to get that even a LaTech fan tells you what’s up and you still going to deny it, y’all are not expected to treat us with respect, but we have to treat y’all with respect?! That’s unacceptable, and wondering why Cajun fans don’t come here.

When leaders at your university show no respect for a new Conference member you will revive zero sympathy from that fanbase.

Good luck with the new hire, congrats on getting rid of that douche Hud.

(12-16-2017 06:23 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 01:16 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 12:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  That is a problem they created on their own. By being so overly, stupidly, sensitive of the issue, it makes it the easiest target of their fanbase. If Cajun fans didn't get their panties in such a bunch every time someone made a comment, those comments would go away.

Every fan base has a sensitive spot, it's how you react to being touched in your sensitive spot to how people touch you there. And every time we want to make the Cajun fans cry we touch them in that spot, and get the exact reaction we are looking for.

How bad does it have to get that even a LaTech fan tells you what’s up and you still going to deny it, y’all are not expected to treat us with respect, but we have to treat y’all with respect?! That’s unacceptable, and wondering why Cajun fans don’t come here.

When leaders at your university show no respect for a new Conference member you will revive zero sympathy from that fanbase.

Good luck with the new hire, congrats on getting rid of that douche Hud.

There's a ton of truth in this. This was the only group (led by coach Smedium) that I didn't feel welcome, even after we proved ourselves. Everyone else pretty much welcomed us from the jump. I'm glad we were the ones that drove the final nail in his tenure there. Also proud that he never got a win, hell, even made a competitive showing, against us.

(12-16-2017 06:23 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 01:16 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 12:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  That is a problem they created on their own. By being so overly, stupidly, sensitive of the issue, it makes it the easiest target of their fanbase. If Cajun fans didn't get their panties in such a bunch every time someone made a comment, those comments would go away.

Every fan base has a sensitive spot, it's how you react to being touched in your sensitive spot to how people touch you there. And every time we want to make the Cajun fans cry we touch them in that spot, and get the exact reaction we are looking for.

How bad does it have to get that even a LaTech fan tells you what’s up and you still going to deny it, y’all are not expected to treat us with respect, but we have to treat y’all with respect?! That’s unacceptable, and wondering why Cajun fans don’t come here.

When leaders at your university show no respect for a new Conference member you will revive zero sympathy from that fanbase.

Good luck with the new hire, congrats on getting rid of that douche Hud.

new conference members

Someone had to say it.

I also have never heard someone whine so much about having to go to Boone.

I think we need the past be the past and move on!! We are a very proud group, we strive for excellence, we want to be nationally recognized, and maybe it’s the Division I-A mentality, we just want what is best for our University and we are a proud bunch.

No offense to App St. and GS and GSU, and Tx St. we were competing long ago at Division I-A level before y’all even thought about competing at the Division I-A level.

Here’s a fact when you lead a sentence with “no offense” the remainder of that statement will be offensive. We’ve been playing pretty solid football for decades and your leaders thought it was beneath them to play us and travel to our house. 100+ point margin since inception and sending Hud out has been sweet.

I have no beef with UL fans. I hope Ragin Cajuns make SBC proud once again.

I think Louisiana folks are generally stubborn and proud. ya'll should read the Falcons/Saints forums

We will see what Billy Napier does with this program! I have faith we going to be the top of the Belt so the rest of the Belt y’all need to bring it. We will be successful, let’s all bring it, we are better than CUSA. Let’s prove it on the field. It’s already showing on the field this bowl season.

Let’s Geaux let’s show what we can do!! Together we Rise !!

(12-16-2017 06:23 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 01:16 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 12:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  That is a problem they created on their own. By being so overly, stupidly, sensitive of the issue, it makes it the easiest target of their fanbase. If Cajun fans didn't get their panties in such a bunch every time someone made a comment, those comments would go away.

Every fan base has a sensitive spot, it's how you react to being touched in your sensitive spot to how people touch you there. And every time we want to make the Cajun fans cry we touch them in that spot, and get the exact reaction we are looking for.

How bad does it have to get that even a LaTech fan tells you what’s up and you still going to deny it, y’all are not expected to treat us with respect, but we have to treat y’all with respect?! That’s unacceptable, and wondering why Cajun fans don’t come here.

When leaders at your university show no respect for a new Conference member you will revive zero sympathy from that fanbase.

Good luck with the new hire, congrats on getting rid of that douche Hud.

Hud was the only one complaining....I understand why he did but I also understood why Appalachian St. Fans took offense. Our President, Dr. Savoie, voted yes for your and Georgia Southern membership. On a personal level I would have preferred we didn't have to do that but by the same token I pushed for membership of Appalachian St and Georgia Southern in the league when speaking to our President and the AD at that time. Once it was evident that the Conference could not acquire and new FBS members then guys were the obvious choices. As for the name issues.....we are winning that branding issue. Once our Conference approved of our athletic branding as "Louisiana Ragin Cajuns" the national media has followed suit. Some of the posters here choose to ignore that and to me ....that's your choice. I personally don't like it...I find it disrespectful. ... but it is what it is.....and our fans also have the right to feel the way they do..

(12-17-2017 10:55 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:23 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 01:16 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 12:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  That is a problem they created on their own. By being so overly, stupidly, sensitive of the issue, it makes it the easiest target of their fanbase. If Cajun fans didn't get their panties in such a bunch every time someone made a comment, those comments would go away.

Every fan base has a sensitive spot, it's how you react to being touched in your sensitive spot to how people touch you there. And every time we want to make the Cajun fans cry we touch them in that spot, and get the exact reaction we are looking for.

How bad does it have to get that even a LaTech fan tells you what’s up and you still going to deny it, y’all are not expected to treat us with respect, but we have to treat y’all with respect?! That’s unacceptable, and wondering why Cajun fans don’t come here.

When leaders at your university show no respect for a new Conference member you will revive zero sympathy from that fanbase.

Good luck with the new hire, congrats on getting rid of that douche Hud.

Hud was the only one complaining....I understand why he did but I also understood why Appalachian St. Fans took offense. Our President, Dr. Savoie, voted yes for your and Georgia Southern membership. On a personal level I would have preferred we didn't have to do that but by the same token I pushed for membership of Appalachian St and Georgia Southern in the league when speaking to our President and the AD at that time. Once it was evident that the Conference could not acquire and new FBS members then guys were the obvious choices. As for the name issues.....we are winning that branding issue. Once our Conference approved of our athletic branding as "Louisiana Ragin Cajuns" the national media has followed suit. Some of the posters here choose to ignore that and to me ....that's your choice. I personally don't like it...I find it disrespectful. ... but it is what it is.....and our fans also have the right to feel the way they do..

I consider the Cajuns to be a top SBC football program. They will be back soon just like my Eagles. My contingent of Eagle fans have referred to UL as "Louisiana" since GS joined the SBC (which is when we really started to take notice of Louisiana). Why? 1. That is the institution's preferred name for athletics. 2. It helps to distinguish them from ULM who has settled on "ULM" as their preferred name for athletics. 3. As dumb as it sounds, with fewer hyphenated schools, the conference perception will be more respected by the masses.

Little Rock immediately appears to be better than UALR.

(12-16-2017 07:01 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Here’s a fact when you lead a sentence with “no offense” the remainder of that statement will be offensive. We’ve been playing pretty solid football for decades and your leaders thought it was beneath them to play us and travel to our house. 100+ point margin since inception and sending Hud out has been sweet.

Boone IS a difficult place to get to. Flying into Tri Cities is fine for football, but with everyone flying commercially for other sports, Charlotte is the only option because of cost. And, then it's a TWO HOUR bus ride. .

That having been said, I've been to Boone a half dozen times. I LOVE going there. The campus and the area are beautiful and the fans are top notch. Good places to eat, too.

App State has made our football league so much better.

Truth be told, they bring the league down in every other important sport. They HAVE to strive to get better. And, with new coach hires, I think they are trying, at least. And, I hope they succeed in that regard.

The jump to FBS couldn't have come at a worse time for App State basketball and baseball. App has 20 win seasons just a few years before. The baseball team was top level in the SoCon just a few years before the jump too. When we lost both coaches AD Cobb made terrible coaching decisions. Set us back.

(12-16-2017 12:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  That is a problem they created on their own. By being so overly, stupidly, sensitive of the issue, it makes it the easiest target of their fanbase. If Cajun fans didn't get their panties in such a bunch every time someone made a comment, those comments would go away.

Every fan base has a sensitive spot, it's how you react to being touched in your sensitive spot to how people touch you there. And every time we want to make the Cajun fans cry we touch them in that spot, and get the exact reaction we are looking for.

This right here, all of it. If the reaction gotten wasn't so funny - we wouldn't do it as much.

First of all I dont get why the "this thread is why Cajun fans don't come here" comment was made. I'm sorry were not handing 8 conference championships and a Big 12 bid to a coach who no one really knew and who didn't have a wiki page before he got hired at ULL.

Secondly, I believe that this hire is a solid one for you, but its not without risk. This is a very swing for the fences hire, you could end up with a Lane Kiffen at FAU situation, or it could be a total flame out (kinda like Withers has been up to this point at Texas State). I do think the investment you have made is impressive however so good job.

The biggest beef I have with Cajun fans is that they moan when people don't follow their "branding"yet do not attempt to follow it themselves. The branding is the Louisiana ragin Cajuns with the short form LA. However, Cajn fans ignore the second part and still attempt to go with UL which is an obvious slap in the face to ULM, not your school name, and still technically an illigal name to go by. You are also not actually the University of Louisiana. When raging pagin starts respecting the brand and goes with LA instead of UL everywhere and people associated with your school start respecting your own brand. I will too until then you'll be ULL to me.

(12-19-2017 01:01 PM)Warhawkman Wrote:  First of all I dont get why the "this thread is why Cajun fans don't come here" comment was made. I'm sorry were not handing 8 conference championships and a Big 12 bid to a coach who no one really knew and who didn't have a wiki page before he got hired at ULL.

Secondly, I believe that this hire is a solid one for you, but its not without risk. This is a very swing for the fences hire, you could end up with a Lane Kiffen at FAU situation, or it could be a total flame out (kinda like Withers has been up to this point at Texas State). I do think the investment you have made is impressive however so good job.

The biggest beef I have with Cajun fans is that they moan when people don't follow their "branding"yet do not attempt to follow it themselves. The branding is the Louisiana ragin Cajuns with the short form LA. However, Cajn fans ignore the second part and still attempt to go with UL which is an obvious slap in the face to ULM, not your school name, and still technically an illigal name to go by. You are also not actually the University of Louisiana. When raging pagin starts respecting the brand and goes with LA instead of UL everywhere and people associated with your school start respecting your own brand. I will too until then you'll be ULL to me.

I think that LA is what we are going for, the university has already said the correct abbreviation is LA . Also if you want to see what BEV and Napier interview as Head Coach for the Ragin Cajuns you should check out these videos.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Rbw-91qwc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OxDOAAqFlqw

(12-19-2017 01:01 PM)Warhawkman Wrote:  First of all I dont get why the "this thread is why Cajun fans don't come here" comment was made. I'm sorry were not handing 8 conference championships and a Big 12 bid to a coach who no one really knew and who didn't have a wiki page before he got hired at ULL.

Secondly, I believe that this hire is a solid one for you, but its not without risk. This is a very swing for the fences hire, you could end up with a Lane Kiffen at FAU situation, or it could be a total flame out (kinda like Withers has been up to this point at Texas State). I do think the investment you have made is impressive however so good job.

The biggest beef I have with Cajun fans is that they moan when people don't follow their "branding"yet do not attempt to follow it themselves. The branding is the Louisiana ragin Cajuns with the short form LA. However, Cajn fans ignore the second part and still attempt to go with UL which is an obvious slap in the face to ULM, not your school name, and still technically an illigal name to go by. You are also not actually the University of Louisiana. When raging pagin starts respecting the brand and goes with LA instead of UL everywhere and people associated with your school start respecting your own brand. I will too until then you'll be ULL to me.

I agree 100%, I’ve said it for years, and was bashed when I suggested they could go by LA instead of shoving UL down our throats ULM alum would be less resistant. And Now the school is saying this is the correct abbreviation and fans still pushing UL but we are suppose to use what the school ask for not them. If its Louisiana and LA then so be it but get it right yourself before getting your panties in a wad when someone else calls you something different.

(12-19-2017 04:33 PM)Warsaw landing Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 01:01 PM)Warhawkman Wrote:  First of all I dont get why the "this thread is why Cajun fans don't come here" comment was made. I'm sorry were not handing 8 conference championships and a Big 12 bid to a coach who no one really knew and who didn't have a wiki page before he got hired at ULL.

Secondly, I believe that this hire is a solid one for you, but its not without risk. This is a very swing for the fences hire, you could end up with a Lane Kiffen at FAU situation, or it could be a total flame out (kinda like Withers has been up to this point at Texas State). I do think the investment you have made is impressive however so good job.

The biggest beef I have with Cajun fans is that they moan when people don't follow their "branding"yet do not attempt to follow it themselves. The branding is the Louisiana ragin Cajuns with the short form LA. However, Cajn fans ignore the second part and still attempt to go with UL which is an obvious slap in the face to ULM, not your school name, and still technically an illigal name to go by. You are also not actually the University of Louisiana. When raging pagin starts respecting the brand and goes with LA instead of UL everywhere and people associated with your school start respecting your own brand. I will too until then you'll be ULL to me.

I agree 100%, I’ve said it for years, and was bashed when I suggested they could go by LA instead of shoving UL down our throats ULM alum would be less resistant. And Now the school is saying this is the correct abbreviation and fans still pushing UL but we are suppose to use what the school ask for not them. If its Louisiana and LA then so be it but get it right yourself before getting your panties in a wad when someone else calls you something different.

I agree we should stick to our branding choice in all university sponsored data. What fans call themselves has always been a moving target. I'm sure the folks who graduated from UL (for the year that was the official name of the university) probably would want to continue calling themselves UL.

I get the issue with Branding. I just don't understand the constant cries of disrespect over the issue.

Laffy Taffy, LaLa, ULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL etc. ULJC whatever. That's disrespectful.

ULL is not disrespectful. That's no different that someone using UALR instead of Little Rock. It's what the university went by for years, and while there's been a big move to change the brand, getting offended when some guy on a message board doesn't follow it to the letter is pushing things a bit. Especially when local media still uses ULL regularly.

(12-15-2017 10:34 AM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  Good job Cajuns, you are hiring someone who has actually beaten App State once, in 2001.

He also went for 2 against App once.