(12-13-2017 08:08 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(12-11-2017 07:17 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 07:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 05:39 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 04:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  RPI has everything to do with average winning % and nothing to do with where a team is in the RPI

Oh yeah? Then why does a win against a top RPI team move you up higher in the RPI than a win over a team with a bad RPI? Even if the teams have identical records.

Because it's opponents' opponents win percentages, too. Beating good (high win percentage) who beat other good teams will boost your RPI. Beating a 10-2 team that has played a lot of really bad teams will not help. And losing to one will kill ya.

Actually this is not necessarily true. Depends on what you are comparing it to and whether you are comparing it to something realistic. If you beat a 10-2 team whose opponents are collectively 15 games below .500 then it's going to be better than beating a 2-10 whose opponents are 15 games above .500 (and without doing the math I would say as high 40 games over .500). Reason? Last time I checked 50% is higher than 25%. That main opponent whether 10-2 or 2-10 is going to count double what that team's opponents records are and thus impact your own RPI to a higher degree. That is unless the 2-10 teams opponents are all undefeated, which isn't realistic. YG is correct here.

Wasn't arguing with YG. Was answering the question I quoted which was why do same record teams give you different RPIs if it's all about winning percentage. And I said because the winning percentage of the opponents and their opponents affects that RPI. And it does. The example was just that, to illustrate. But sure if you break it down to a 10-2 team vs a 2-10 team you'll find my little illustration won't hold up. It was never meant to as just a tool for explaining that RPI goes further than who you played.

But between 2, 10-2 teams, which is what he asked, the winning percentages of the opponent's opponents will be the difference in the RPI gained for your team and losing to a 10-2 team that has played no one will negatively affect you RPI as you said in another reply on here. You have to beat the good teams from bad conferences if you schedule them.

Instead of saying beating a 10-2 team that has played no one won't help, I should have said won't help as much as beating a 10-2 team with lots of quality wins. But I didn't see it as necessary to answer his question and didn't foresee the self-proclaimed expert on RPI was going to jump in with a completely polarized example that just really muddied the water of his answered question.

So, your response to being corrected for saying the following:

Beating a 10-2 team that has played a lot of really bad teams will not help.

which was categorically false (and had you left it off your reply I would have said nothing) is to come back to me with a passive aggressive smart ass comment. Roger. Got it.

(12-13-2017 11:21 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 11:00 AM)Theflash Wrote:  Ole Fisher... still going strong.

Fisher retired last season I believe, but still San Diego St. probably has the best 1-2 punch out of any non privileged schools good at both FBS football and D1 hoops...

Didn’t realize that. I didn’t think he’d retire, I thought he’d die on the sideline.

Conference RPI down to 17th.

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(12-13-2017 10:24 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Conference RPI down to 17th.

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YOu can think one Big Ten ref for one spot at least...