(11-22-2017 07:31 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 07:21 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 04:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 02:51 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 02:42 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I think the problem with those so opposed & vocally critical of Tubby is that you can't related to the thought process of the very small group who are committed to paying Tubby's big contract. It is not in their collective nature to make quick decisions & even more unlikely for them to cut-bait after only one season, given the substantial financial commitment they have made. So all normal fans can agree Tubby isn't the right guy or isn't doing the job but that small group who are on the hook financially will very likely allow the contract to play out. That was essentially the path taken with JP & he would likely be working out his last season now had GT not taken him. Memphis had already committed to JP last year & while talk, pressure & rumors would have been constant, those making decisions were willing for JP to find his own landing spot or not have his contract renewed. Given the MBB finances are even worse now, it leaves even fewer options with Tubby but to play it out. That is why some here say let's see how it goes because that is exactly where this program, this coach & the university are headed until & unless that very small group of financial donors say they will take it in the shorts - and I'm betting they won't. And something else, I don't think that small group will be willing to trust this admin the next go-round either if Tubby isn't successful.

The same people you just talked about MIGHT hang on to Tubby for a little while, but the problem with YOUR post is that you fail to understand that they are saying the same things that most of us are.

Rudd just stood in front of a $20 million facility and told everyone that we are a top 10 program. Do you think that Rudd, Laurie and Bowen are sitting around thinking that everything is fine and everything will sort itself out with Tubby? They are already close to full panic mode.

Sure Rudd says we expect a certain std of performance. What else could he say? I think I heard the same from Bowen publically with JP, but what was done? Nothing, but the clear intent was to let JP's contract run out with him knowing he was out when it did. So JP found a soft landing. And the costs are sunk at this point on Tubby, but the admin likely has very little resources to tap for the next coach, & with the poor attendance will likely just allow Tubby's to play out his contract - just like they were set to do with JP. So complain all you want, but Tubby is likely here for his contract. But with no resources to make a change I doubt there is panic at this point. It's hope Tubby pulls the program up or resignation to a mediocre next 4 yrs.

In my opinion if Tubby doesn’t make the NCAA tournament in year three, he’s gone. Now if he has a less than .500 season this year, I truly believe something will be done. They can’t sit tight and allow us to sink further.

Sure they can. 9 Million Dollar payout at that point. They were prepared to ride it out with Paz just two years ago.

Yes sure they can, but I don’t think they will. We can agree to disagree on this. That said, I can’t and won’t hang out here posting about the demise of something I love, for another four years. I’ll find something else to do.

(11-22-2017 04:48 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I think a large part of Paz deciding to go ahead and look elsewhere was the heat / unpleasantness from the fans as well as the fact that he knew he wouldn't have his contract extended here.

Hiring mistakes get made all the time. Hopefully the next hire will be made upon the recommendation of the committee that has selected Fuente and Norvell in succession.

I just wish Tubby would / could land some talented recruits. THAT would solve a lot of issues. If he doesn't make wholesale changes to his staff for next year we'll know he just doesn't give a **** anymore. If he had a staff that could recruit all he'd have had to do is be the closer. Now that he's effectively **** the bed here it may be too late for that scenario to play out......

Agree with most of this. However on the staff...I don't think it's that he doesn't care. I think he values trust and loyalty, and the current staff is that. He knows he doesn't have to worry about what is going on because they are all aligned. And they all think his way can still work. They need to upgrade talent, so they need to do things differently. So we agree there. But it's not that they don't care.

17 to go.

16 to go.

Another win over a tough OOC team. Still on track for 20 wins! Go Tigers Go!

Y'all are a trip. 15 to go now. 25% of the way, which is about 20% greater than our 3 point shooting!

And then there were 15.

I swear I saw Saul stand up one time.

(12-05-2017 10:51 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  I swear I saw Saul stand up one time.

saw Saul, that's funny

(12-05-2017 10:51 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  I swear I saw Saul stand up one time.

Laugh yep and up to that point I was thinking they could have replaced him with a mannequin and no one would know the difference.

(12-05-2017 10:52 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 10:51 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  I swear I saw Saul stand up one time.

saw Saul, that's funny

Nope.

(12-05-2017 10:51 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  I swear I saw Saul stand up one time.

He stood up in slow motion and pointed to his foot to indicate that the ball deflected off of Samford's player.

(12-05-2017 11:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 10:51 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  I swear I saw Saul stand up one time.

He stood up in slow motion and pointed to his foot to indicate that the ball deflected off of Samford's player.

He was probably drunk

(12-05-2017 11:53 PM)Blackman Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 10:51 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  I swear I saw Saul stand up one time.

He stood up in slow motion and pointed to his foot to indicate that the ball deflected off of Samford's player.

He was probably drunk

At least he wasn't driving this time.

Martin is getting killed on twitter for the Samford player. Evidently the Samford guy screamed, "This is my house," and Martin said that he probably just wants to be here. Some good responses:

"He can be here."
"He should be here."
"It is his house."

(12-06-2017 10:06 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Martin is getting killed on twitter for the Samford player. Evidently the Samford guy screamed, "This is my house," and Martin said that he probably just wants to be here. Some good responses:

"He can be here."
"He should be here."
"It is his house."

Dbags ... why are they trolling our own player?

That’s the thing about trash talking. It can definitely come back to bite you. 30 seconds later and you’re walking out of “your house” with your head down.

(12-06-2017 10:26 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:06 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Martin is getting killed on twitter for the Samford player. Evidently the Samford guy screamed, "This is my house," and Martin said that he probably just wants to be here. Some good responses:

"He can be here."
"He should be here."
"It is his house."

Dbags ... why are they trolling our own player?

Starts with that ass clown John Martin setting a line between Memphis and East High School. FWIW: he started it at Memphis -4 and has gone down since.

(12-06-2017 10:26 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:06 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Martin is getting killed on twitter for the Samford player. Evidently the Samford guy screamed, "This is my house," and Martin said that he probably just wants to be here. Some good responses:

"He can be here."
"He should be here."
"It is his house."

Dbags ... why are they trolling our own player?

I think you are thinking the wrong Martin.

(11-22-2017 07:52 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 07:31 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 07:21 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 04:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 02:51 PM)Stammers Wrote:  The same people you just talked about MIGHT hang on to Tubby for a little while, but the problem with YOUR post is that you fail to understand that they are saying the same things that most of us are.

Rudd just stood in front of a $20 million facility and told everyone that we are a top 10 program. Do you think that Rudd, Laurie and Bowen are sitting around thinking that everything is fine and everything will sort itself out with Tubby? They are already close to full panic mode.

Sure Rudd says we expect a certain std of performance. What else could he say? I think I heard the same from Bowen publically with JP, but what was done? Nothing, but the clear intent was to let JP's contract run out with him knowing he was out when it did. So JP found a soft landing. And the costs are sunk at this point on Tubby, but the admin likely has very little resources to tap for the next coach, & with the poor attendance will likely just allow Tubby's to play out his contract - just like they were set to do with JP. So complain all you want, but Tubby is likely here for his contract. But with no resources to make a change I doubt there is panic at this point. It's hope Tubby pulls the program up or resignation to a mediocre next 4 yrs.

In my opinion if Tubby doesn’t make the NCAA tournament in year three, he’s gone. Now if he has a less than .500 season this year, I truly believe something will be done. They can’t sit tight and allow us to sink further.

Sure they can. 9 Million Dollar payout at that point. They were prepared to ride it out with Paz just two years ago.

Yes sure they can, but I don’t think they will. We can agree to disagree on this. That said, I can’t and won’t hang out here posting about the demise of something I love, for another four years. I’ll find something else to do.

The buyout can be paid over 6yrs from what I heard. So they actually would only have to pay about 1.5 per.
So you can find a upcoming coach ready for a step up for 1mil to 1.5 to equal what they're paying Tubby.