Far-right news outlet Breitbart News ran with the headline, “Amnesty Don.”

“President Trump signaled a full-fledged cave on the issue of giving amnesty to nearly 800,000 illegal aliens currently protected by an Obama-created executive immigration program,” Breitbart reporter John Binder wrote.

Fox News host and Trump ally Sean Hannity, who blamed Republican leaders, said that “it’s over” for the president if he abandons his hardline immigration stance.

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This could possibly save the republican party.

(09-14-2017 10:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Far-right news outlet Breitbart News ran with the headline, “Amnesty Don.”

“President Trump signaled a full-fledged cave on the issue of giving amnesty to nearly 800,000 illegal aliens currently protected by an Obama-created executive immigration program,” Breitbart reporter John Binder wrote.

Fox News host and Trump ally Sean Hannity, who blamed Republican leaders, said that “it’s over” for the president if he abandons his hardline immigration stance.

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This could possibly save the republican party.

great more cheap labor for your white liberal

In general, most Americans, even those who voted for Trump, are not concerned about Americanized kids who were brought here through no fault of their own. In fact many of those conservative voters wanted Elian Gonzalez to remain here.

What they do care about is that "Dreamers" with MS13 neck tattoos be treated differently than your average young person in this dilemma. Democrats seem to be able to see no difference. Breitbart may have the same disease.

If Trump reaches a deal that lets "Elian Gonzalez" stay but puts Jose the gang assassin on a plane out...he will have betrayed nobody.

We will see how this turns out. But nothing is clear yet on whether an acceptable deal is reached.

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I just don't understand. Why is this so hard?

If you are here illegally you should be deported back to your home country where you can stand in line at the US embassy or consulate to apply for a visa to visit, live, or work in the United States of America.

Just like everyone else has to.

(09-14-2017 11:28 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I just don't understand. Why is this so hard?

If you are here illegally you should be deported back to your home country where you can stand in line at the US embassy or consulate to apply for a visa to visit, live, or work in the United States of America.

Just like everyone else has to.

It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

(09-14-2017 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

Then those countries of which the child is a citizen should show compassion for their citizens and make sure that there are facilities and support services to allow their citizen to apply for a US visa.

Problem solved. I would be a great bureaucrat!

(09-14-2017 11:08 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  In general, most Americans, even those who voted for Trump, are not concerned about Americanized kids who were brought here through no fault of their own. In fact many of those conservative voters wanted Elian Gonzalez to remain here.

What they do care about is that "Dreamers" with MS13 neck tattoos be treated differently than your average young person in this dilemma. Democrats seem to be able to see no difference. Breitbart may have the same disease.

If Trump reaches a deal that lets "Elian Gonzalez" stay but puts Jose the gang assassin on a plane out...he will have betrayed nobody.

We will see how this turns out. But nothing is clear yet on whether an acceptable deal is reached.

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Right on the money. We can figure something out for the kid that's now 18, clean record (generally speaking), and just going about his everyday life.

If you are, instead, a criminal, threat to others (multiple duis for instance) or not contributing in some meaningful way. Out you go!
Buh, bye.

(09-14-2017 11:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

Then those countries of which the child is a citizen should show compassion for their citizens and make sure that there are facilities and support services to allow their citizen to apply for a US visa.

Problem solved. I would be a great bureaucrat!

Those children are in many cases adults who want to live here and contribute to this country.

Why should we deport these people who are more American than many who were born here?

Because of some law?

"I assure you man was not made for the laws but the laws were made for man"

Easiest way to lose my vote is to push amnesty. Zero tolerance for rewarding criminal behavior.

We've seen in the past that you can't make deals with the leftists on this because they never live up to their side of the deal so to even try is idiotic.

(09-14-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Those children are in many cases adults who want to live here and contribute to this country.

Yes.

(09-14-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why should we deport these people who are more American than many who were born here?

Because they are in this country illegally.

(09-14-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Because of some law?

Yes. The law that says you must legally immigrate to this county.

(09-14-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  "I assure you man was not made for the laws but the laws were made for man"

I also have some favorite quotes! I hope you like 'em

"Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it."

"Right is right, even if no one is doing it."

(09-14-2017 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:28 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I just don't understand. Why is this so hard?

If you are here illegally you should be deported back to your home country where you can stand in line at the US embassy or consulate to apply for a visa to visit, live, or work in the United States of America.

Just like everyone else has to.

It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

Prove it, you can't. I dated a Colombian chic, on DACA, who came to the USA on a tourist visa. She just never went back. Lots of people on DACA came as teenagers and adults.

(09-14-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

Then those countries of which the child is a citizen should show compassion for their citizens and make sure that there are facilities and support services to allow their citizen to apply for a US visa.

Problem solved. I would be a great bureaucrat!

Those children are in many cases adults who want to live here and contribute to this country.

Why should we deport these people who are more American than many who were born here?

Because of some law?

"I assure you man was not made for the laws but the laws were made for man"

you're saying they're more American than me even though I help volunteer my time and energy to change. I never seen one of them ever volunteer. there's been Hispanics in America of the years that the fight Wars and helping out in the community.stop the bull .because your kid doesn't mean you're the greatest person ever lived

It's a damn shame how some people care more for laws in this country than they do for living, breathing, people who just want a piece of the American dream.

(09-14-2017 11:58 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:28 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I just don't understand. Why is this so hard?

If you are here illegally you should be deported back to your home country where you can stand in line at the US embassy or consulate to apply for a visa to visit, live, or work in the United States of America.

Just like everyone else has to.

It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

Prove it, you can't. I dated a Colombian chic, on DACA, who came to the USA on a tourist visa. She just never went back. Lots of people on DACA came as teenagers and adults.

trust me they don't know any they just say it so they sleep better at night.

(09-14-2017 11:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's a damn shame how some people care more for laws in this country than they do for living, breathing, people who just want a piece of the American dream.

No laws, no borders, no country. People who want to live here need to come legally.

(09-14-2017 11:54 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Easiest way to lose my vote is to push amnesty. Zero tolerance for rewarding criminal behavior.

We've seen in the past that you can't make deals with the leftists on this because they never live up to their side of the deal so to even try is idiotic.

Well, when I hear "amnesty" I'm thinking the entirety of the 15-20 million that are here illegally. Visa overstays, fence jumpers all of them.

This isn't that, it's a relatively small percentage of that.

Though I will say again what I've said for years now.

Much like what LS said above- wanna get right with the law and the American people?

Go home, get your stuff in order, apply for re-entry and we have some expedited "express lane" where we can check record, confirm identity and address. Work or school status etc., then they can come back on a temp basis until they are granted the next status.
Whatever that would be.

(09-14-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

Then those countries of which the child is a citizen should show compassion for their citizens and make sure that there are facilities and support services to allow their citizen to apply for a US visa.

Problem solved. I would be a great bureaucrat!

Those children are in many cases adults who want to live here and contribute to this country.

Why should we deport these people who are more American than many who were born here?

Because of some law?

"I assure you man was not made for the laws but the laws were made for man"

Quote:“We are a nation of laws, not of men.”

(09-14-2017 12:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-14-2017 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's hard because unlike some in this country, most people have compassion for children who were brought here through no fault of their own.

Then those countries of which the child is a citizen should show compassion for their citizens and make sure that there are facilities and support services to allow their citizen to apply for a US visa.

Problem solved. I would be a great bureaucrat!

Those children are in many cases adults who want to live here and contribute to this country.

Why should we deport these people who are more American than many who were born here?

Because of some law?

"I assure you man was not made for the laws but the laws were made for man"

Quote:“We are a nation of laws, not of men.”

"We the people..............."'


Want to try again?

(09-14-2017 11:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's a damn shame how some people care more for laws in this country than they do for living, breathing, people who just want a piece of the American dream.

I want a piece of American dream too but I had to live through the hard time in bad neighborhood but what the hell were you at to help me if you care so much about minorities.

(09-14-2017 11:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's a damn shame how some people care more for laws in this country than they do for living, breathing, people who just want a piece of the American dream.

They are more than welcome to a piece of the American dream. They just have to follow the legal process to come here.