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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
First of all your comments about outnumbering us at Malone just aren't true. Secondly, you do realize the time period you are talking about is about 20 years ago now don't you. Lastly, don't play us. Fine with me.
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(09-14-2017 09:05 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 07:15 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  We are never going FCS. Keep dreaming. What do you care anyway? Idaho is in a much different situation geographically than us.

Dreaming?

You guys are an afterthought if that.

Your relevance as a FBS program began and ended with Kolton Browning.

You're the one that piped up in this thread talking smack about my Alma Mater. I could give 2 ?'s about MTSU, as could the majority of the rest of the country.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 12:42 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  First of all your comments about outnumbering us at Malone just aren't true. Secondly, you do realize the time period you are talking about is about 20 years ago now don't you. Lastly, don't play us. Fine with me.

It's true, Reported attendance 14K. Really about 10-11k. About 6k Tech fans. It was pathetic so was the ULM football team. Tech was 3-9 that year but still beat ULM 42-19 and ULL 48-14. That's why we don't play, there little fan base won't even show up
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 12:42 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  First of all your comments about outnumbering us at Malone just aren't true. Secondly, you do realize the time period you are talking about is about 20 years ago now don't you. Lastly, don't play us. Fine with me.

There is nothing untrue about it. Maybe it wasn't quite 3 to 1, but there were about 10k fans there and 7k of those were cheering for the team that won. I know exactly when the time period was as I was a HS student at the time and that game fortified that I would not go to ULM because of the apathy towards athletics by the area, alumni, and students. I think most people associated with both schools want to see the game, but understandably Tech wants to set the terms. Like it or not, and revel as you may in the slow start to the season for Tech, history both recent and not so recent says Tech has the right to set the terms.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 12:46 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:05 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 07:15 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  We are never going FCS. Keep dreaming. What do you care anyway? Idaho is in a much different situation geographically than us.

Dreaming?

You guys are an afterthought if that.

Your relevance as a FBS program began and ended with Kolton Browning.

You're the one that piped up in this thread talking smack about my Alma Mater. I could give 2 ?'s about MTSU, as could the majority of the rest of the country.

We have more winning seasons in the last two years than ULM has in their entire FBS history.

Kick rocks.
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(09-14-2017 11:45 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  Also don't forget that El Ay tech and ULM are at the same level academically.
http://www.ulm.edu/news/2016/913-ulm-inc...eport.html
It would look really bad for them to lose to ULM on the field as well. Remember the Indy Bowl.
Oh no, not this again. For you slow learning Cajuns... ULM will be a national university for a 5 year period, just like ULL and Louisiana Tech, which is how often the Carnegie Classification gets updated. The only thing that any school has to do to get a national university designation is to issue 20 research type (not JD, MD, or Pharmacy) doctoral degrees in the update year. ULM managed to do that once in the last 16 years (that I have data on, and more likely for their entire history), which just happened to be exactly 20 degrees in the update year according to the ULS Dashboard. In fact, in that period, they never issued more than 11 research doctoral degrees prior to 2013. By comparison ULL issues around 50 doctoral degrees a year and Louisiana Tech issues around 40.

[Image: best_national_universities2017-01.jpg]

Things like this just show a university's true colors, when they say they are recognized for something for the second year when it is only updated every 5 years.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 03:42 PM)zharkins Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:45 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  Also don't forget that El Ay tech and ULM are at the same level academically.
http://www.ulm.edu/news/2016/913-ulm-inc...eport.html
It would look really bad for them to lose to ULM on the field as well. Remember the Indy Bowl.
Oh no, not this again. For you slow learning Cajuns... ULM will be a national university for a 5 year period, just like ULL and Louisiana Tech, which is how often the Carnegie Classification gets updated. The only thing that any school has to do to get a national university designation is to issue 20 research type (not JD, MD, or Pharmacy) doctoral degrees in the update year. ULM managed to do that once in the last 16 years (that I have data on, and more likely for their entire history), which just happened to be exactly 20 degrees in the update year according to the ULS Dashboard. In fact, in that period, they never issued more than 11 research doctoral degrees prior to 2013. By comparison ULL issues around 50 doctoral degrees a year and Louisiana Tech issues around 40.

[Image: best_national_universities2017-01.jpg]

Things like this just show a university's true colors, when they say they are recognized for something for the second year when it is only updated every 5 years.

Well, there's always been an "integrity" issue with both ULM and ULL. And there still is. That's why ULL is suffering from NCAA penalties now, and has several times in the past. The whole "call us Univ of Louisiana" thing is another example of the school's lack of integrity. It's also why ULM tried to call road games against Arkansas a few years ago in Little Rock's War Memorial stadium "home games" for ULM's NCAA attendance count. Just no integrity. They are the kind of folks that are always looking for a way to cheat ya.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-14-2017 12:44 AM)Shrack Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 09:04 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:52 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:47 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:22 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  I will side with the Tech fans here. Mississippi State has been a quality program since Mullen took over. Our fans hate State so much that they can't see straight and get the facts clouded.

Really? See above post (speakin' of not getting your facts straight my friend)

Yeah, really. I don't care what happened in the 60s and 70s. They've done pretty well for themselves since Mullen took over.

Yeah, Mullen's 63-42 record ain't bad (unless you are Jeff Bower)....still doesn't change the fact they have NO SEC titles and ONE (1) SEC West title in nearly 80 years (and that includes the 80's, 90's, 2000's, and 2010's!) and perenially finish BACK IN THE PACK (ie SEC bottom feeder, which is what I "said")...

and before you say "they play in a tougher conference"----OF COURSE THEY DO---but what could La Tech, USM or WKU do with an infusion of $40 million every year? Better than those LOSERS....and LOSERS are exactly what they are.04-cheers
Could you/they really though? Adding 40 million to your current budget still puts you way behind the rest of the SEC top tier budgets. And the SEC top tier (Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Georgia) are the only schools who have won an SEC title in 40 years. 8 of the conference members only have a combined 9 division titles period.

(Texas A&M doesn't have a title yet even with their huge revenue)

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But ya see, this is why these comparisons are moot---MSUCks says if they were in C-USA, they would dominate---of course they would with SEC teat/welfare money.

BUT, IF they were in C-USA they wouldn't have SEC money, a 60K stadium, Bama/Auburn etc etc etc home and home, blah blah blah.

MSUcks says if USM/WKU/La Tech was in SEC they would get "kilt"---of course we would with C-USA money---BUT, if we were in SEC we would have SEC teat/welfare money, A 100,000 seat stadium (03-lmfao) , Bama/Auburn, etc etc etc home and home, blah blah blah...

So all those comparisons mean nothing unless we trade conferences, which ain't gonna happen, of course!04-cheers
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 12:14 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:50 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Whoever made this Tech / ULM thread was trolling and I'm not mad because it's fun to do that every now and then.

Not trolling. I'm just curious. You guys played every year from 1953-1991 and some in the late 90s and then the series abruptly ended. We as a conference talk about P5 teams ducking us scheduling, but you guys won't play a G5 team that's like 30 minutes down the road. Feel like it'd be a great game for North Louisiana. Just looked it up and the largest crowd ever at Joe Aillet was for a Tech/ULM game. To me, it seems like a natural rivalry.

What's the latest on the Tech/ULL series? That going to get started up again soon?

There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.
Idiot, Tech is not a commuter school and Ruston does have an airport. Just two examples of your many lies.
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(09-15-2017 12:42 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  First of all your comments about outnumbering us at Malone just aren't true. Secondly, you do realize the time period you are talking about is about 20 years ago now don't you. Lastly, don't play us. Fine with me.

Man, why didn't ULM fight ULL calling themselves Louisiana? It doesn't makes sense and you folks had he most to lose in the name game @ Lafayette conned ULM and the rest of the UL System into. Truly disappointing that you ULM didn't stand up for themselves. @ Lafayette lacks integrity and you guys let them get away with it. They lie, cheat, commit academic fraud, and ULM helped them with their con game. It just doesn't make sense.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 06:12 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 12:14 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:50 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Whoever made this Tech / ULM thread was trolling and I'm not mad because it's fun to do that every now and then.

Not trolling. I'm just curious. You guys played every year from 1953-1991 and some in the late 90s and then the series abruptly ended. We as a conference talk about P5 teams ducking us scheduling, but you guys won't play a G5 team that's like 30 minutes down the road. Feel like it'd be a great game for North Louisiana. Just looked it up and the largest crowd ever at Joe Aillet was for a Tech/ULM game. To me, it seems like a natural rivalry.

What's the latest on the Tech/ULL series? That going to get started up again soon?

There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.
Idiot, Tech is not a commuter school and Ruston does have an airport. Just two examples of your many lies.

Tech accomidates about 2500-3000 students in dorms and apartments on campus and since they report an enrollment of over 11,000 it appears most must be commuters. They do have an airport that is suitable for drones but my defenation of an airport is one whereby you can book a flight and fly in or out commercially.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 08:29 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:12 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 12:14 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Not trolling. I'm just curious. You guys played every year from 1953-1991 and some in the late 90s and then the series abruptly ended. We as a conference talk about P5 teams ducking us scheduling, but you guys won't play a G5 team that's like 30 minutes down the road. Feel like it'd be a great game for North Louisiana. Just looked it up and the largest crowd ever at Joe Aillet was for a Tech/ULM game. To me, it seems like a natural rivalry.

What's the latest on the Tech/ULL series? That going to get started up again soon?

There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.
Idiot, Tech is not a commuter school and Ruston does have an airport. Just two examples of your many lies.

Tech accomidates about 2500-3000 students in dorms and apartments on campus and since they report an enrollment of over 11,000 it appears most must be commuters. They do have an airport that is suitable for drones but my defenation of an airport is one whereby you can book a flight and fly in or out commercially.

That sounds about right ~2400 live in old dorms and apartments. New housing project adding 880 beds, 4 of the new buildings are completed and in use so, idk, maybe between 1/3 and 1/2 of the 880 is added on that. Theres really no need to live on campus other than convenience, there are many privately owned apartments all around the campus that are cheaper than campus apartments.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 09:06 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 08:29 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:12 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.
Idiot, Tech is not a commuter school and Ruston does have an airport. Just two examples of your many lies.

Tech accomidates about 2500-3000 students in dorms and apartments on campus and since they report an enrollment of over 11,000 it appears most must be commuters. They do have an airport that is suitable for drones but my defenation of an airport is one whereby you can book a flight and fly in or out commercially.

That sounds about right ~2400 live in old dorms and apartments. New housing project adding 880 beds, 4 of the new buildings are completed and in use so, idk, maybe between 1/3 and 1/2 of the 880 is added on that. Theres really no need to live on campus other than convenience, there are many privately owned apartments all around the campus that are cheaper than campus apartments.

Yep they commute to campus by foot from their privately owned apartments that are just as close as many dorms to their class buildings.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 09:15 PM)deb025 Wrote:  
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(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.
Idiot, Tech is not a commuter school and Ruston does have an airport. Just two examples of your many lies.

Tech accomidates about 2500-3000 students in dorms and apartments on campus and since they report an enrollment of over 11,000 it appears most must be commuters. They do have an airport that is suitable for drones but my defenation of an airport is one whereby you can book a flight and fly in or out commercially.

That sounds about right ~2400 live in old dorms and apartments. New housing project adding 880 beds, 4 of the new buildings are completed and in use so, idk, maybe between 1/3 and 1/2 of the 880 is added on that. Theres really no need to live on campus other than convenience, there are many privately owned apartments all around the campus that are cheaper than campus apartments.

Yep they commute to campus by foot from their privately owned apartments that are just as close as many dorms to their class buildings.

Yeah my friends had apartments closer to my classes than my own dorm is.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-13-2017 01:09 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  I'll hang up and listen.

http://www.latechreport.com/2016/01/04/w...iana-tech/

Long story short, there's no real benefit for Tech in playing ULM in football.

"The few meager benefits Tech might accrue from playing ULM are not worth it for Louisiana Tech. There would be no additional national media coverage and no boost in recruiting from playing ULM regularly in football. Renewing the football series would not help Louisiana Tech get the “Access Bowl” bid, boost its strength of schedule, or help Tech become a Top 25 team."
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 09:06 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 08:29 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:12 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.
Idiot, Tech is not a commuter school and Ruston does have an airport. Just two examples of your many lies.

Tech accomidates about 2500-3000 students in dorms and apartments on campus and since they report an enrollment of over 11,000 it appears most must be commuters. They do have an airport that is suitable for drones but my defenation of an airport is one whereby you can book a flight and fly in or out commercially.

That sounds about right ~2400 live in old dorms and apartments. New housing project adding 880 beds, 4 of the new buildings are completed and in use so, idk, maybe between 1/3 and 1/2 of the 880 is added on that. Theres really no need to live on campus other than convenience, there are many privately owned apartments all around the campus that are cheaper than campus apartments.

So they are adding 880 beds. Can you tell us how many of the old ones are being replaced by these newer ones? I heard it is just about a break even figure.
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(09-13-2017 05:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  ULM has wins over Bama and Ark with in the last 10 years. Can any school in CUSA say that? This school seems to do more with less than any FBS school.

ULM beat a mediocre Alabama in Nick Saban's first year as their coach. Then, ULM beat Arkansas in the John L. Smith er(ror).

In that same time period, Louisiana Tech beat Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Illinois (twice), Virginia, and #25 Navy.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-15-2017 09:33 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 09:06 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 08:29 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:12 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.
Idiot, Tech is not a commuter school and Ruston does have an airport. Just two examples of your many lies.

Tech accomidates about 2500-3000 students in dorms and apartments on campus and since they report an enrollment of over 11,000 it appears most must be commuters. They do have an airport that is suitable for drones but my defenation of an airport is one whereby you can book a flight and fly in or out commercially.

That sounds about right ~2400 live in old dorms and apartments. New housing project adding 880 beds, 4 of the new buildings are completed and in use so, idk, maybe between 1/3 and 1/2 of the 880 is added on that. Theres really no need to live on campus other than convenience, there are many privately owned apartments all around the campus that are cheaper than campus apartments.

So they are adding 880 beds. Can you tell us how many of the old ones are being replaced by these newer ones? I heard it is just about a break even figure.

Not sure if they have made a definite decision on some of the dorms' fates. Pearce hall was knocked down over the summer so that was probably ~120 of the beds that were being replaced. What I thought was the plan was that they'd take out Mitchell Hall (400), probably Cottingham hall as well (I assume this, not sure. Cottingham is trash imo), thus eliminating all dorms across Tech Drive. But I personally find Mitchell to be in too good of shape to be taken out any time soon, like within the next few years. Its not sparkling great, but its not aweful either. They also just gave it a new parking lot so I feel they are extending its life a bit longer.

As far as I knew, they were keeping Harper (400 i think)... But the naming of three of the newest structures as Harper A, B, and C kind of indicate that may not be the case. Why would they name 3 new complexes after existing building? That gives me the idea of the current Harper's fate is not good. The new living structures are typically named after older ones that are no longer in use, like Hutcheson, Neilson, Jenkins, etc. The newest housing that is currently open is Pearce A, B, C, and Harper A. Doesn't seem too good for Harper does it?
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(09-14-2017 07:15 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  We are never going FCS.

Correct. The state of ULM athletic finances would never allow a move to FCS to be made. ULM athletics depends on the $2 million or so in money games from the football team to help the rest of the athletic department stay afloat. Moving to FCS would reduce the amount of guarantee money from bodybag games with only a slight reduction in scholarships to show for it. The loss in revenue would far outweigh any meager cost savings from a move from FBS to FCS.

ULM would probably end the football program before they move down to the FCS ranks.
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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-14-2017 02:25 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  
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(09-14-2017 01:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  As an outsider, I think over a 6 year period, it would be great for Tech to schedule 1 for 1s with Tulane, ULL, and ULM. That would give you 1 in state game per season to hopefully get more media coverage, attention, and interest throughout the state. Just my .02.

What's the deal with Tulane? Is Tech trying to duck them as well?

I feel certain that it's probably the other way around, and that Tulane doesn't want any part of Tech.

Tulane is 7-0 all time against La Tech. Also, Tulane doesn't want to play La Tech for whatever reason. Tulane LOVES playing Mississippi schools.

(Context: Tulane just restarted the USM series - but show no interest in playing Tech)
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