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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
And why should you guys offer a 2-1 when USM and Memphis got 1-1s? They also had 1-1s with Wake and Baylor recently I'm pretty sure.
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(09-14-2017 01:06 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  And why should you guys offer a 2-1 when USM and Memphis got 1-1s? They also had 1-1s with Wake and Baylor recently I'm pretty sure.

It's called "supply & demand". We don't want to play ULM, and you do. So, that's a question for your respective AD's.
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Because they are delusional. They can't sell out their stadium without us as was obvious hosting Miss St. twice and ULMis still their highest attended game ever. On the other hand we have sold out our stadium twice in recent years over 30k. Who needs who? It's dumb that we don't play, but I don't care that much anymore. We obviously don't need them to sell out our stadium. They looked really "elite" last weekend. Lol.
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As an outsider, I think over a 6 year period, it would be great for Tech to schedule 1 for 1s with Tulane, ULL, and ULM. That would give you 1 in state game per season to hopefully get more media coverage, attention, and interest throughout the state. Just my .02.
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(09-14-2017 01:22 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Because they are delusional. They can't sell out their stadium without us as was obvious hosting Miss St. twice and ULMis still their highest attended game ever. On the other hand we have sold out our stadium twice in recent years over 30k. Who needs who? It's dumb that we don't play, but I don't care that much anymore. We obviously don't need them to sell out our stadium. They looked really "elite" last weekend. Lol.

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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
I'm just not from Louisiana, so i don't give a flip about playing ULM or not.
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(09-14-2017 01:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  As an outsider, I think over a 6 year period, it would be great for Tech to schedule 1 for 1s with Tulane, ULL, and ULM. That would give you 1 in state game per season to hopefully get more media coverage, attention, and interest throughout the state. Just my .02.

Well, thank you for looking out for the welfare of Louisiana Tech. It's always nice to know we can count on USM fans for advice on how to run our university. 03-lmfao
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(09-14-2017 01:31 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 01:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  As an outsider, I think over a 6 year period, it would be great for Tech to schedule 1 for 1s with Tulane, ULL, and ULM. That would give you 1 in state game per season to hopefully get more media coverage, attention, and interest throughout the state. Just my .02.

Well, thank you for looking out for the welfare of Louisiana Tech. It's always nice to know we can count on USM fans for advice on how to run our university. 03-lmfao

Anytime. And another thing La Tech should do is to find their own T. Boone Pickens. And find a couple of those guys for Southern Miss also.

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RE: Why won't LaTech play ULM?
(09-14-2017 12:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
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(09-14-2017 12:14 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:50 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Whoever made this Tech / ULM thread was trolling and I'm not mad because it's fun to do that every now and then.

Not trolling. I'm just curious. You guys played every year from 1953-1991 and some in the late 90s and then the series abruptly ended. We as a conference talk about P5 teams ducking us scheduling, but you guys won't play a G5 team that's like 30 minutes down the road. Feel like it'd be a great game for North Louisiana. Just looked it up and the largest crowd ever at Joe Aillet was for a Tech/ULM game. To me, it seems like a natural rivalry.

What's the latest on the Tech/ULL series? That going to get started up again soon?

There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.


That's funny. He who bets on ULL will likely end up broke. 03-thumbsup Since 1996, ULL has only had 3 winning seasons. More recently, the Cajuns sport a whopping .436 winning percentage record during Mark Hudspeth's 7 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana%...s_football

For the record, LA Tech has more bowl games, more bowl wins, more conference championships, and 11 winning seasons over that same period since 1996.

That's 11 vs 3. Anywho.........

Ruston is actually in the absolute best location in the entire state of Louisiana. Situated perfectly between Shreveport/Bossier city to the west and Monroe to the east, Ruston has one of the state's most educated populations, lowest crime rates, and one of the highest standards of living in Louisiana. As discussed (and proven) before on this same board, Ruston is widely recognized as the wealthiest city/town in the state of Louisiana.

Ruston is so far north in the state that it's never threatened by hurricanes or flooding. In fact, many coastal residents flee to Ruston and surrounding areas when seeking protection from hurricanes and flooding. And we are happy to accommodate, just as we did for Tulane students and athletes during the Hurricane Katrina fiasco.

The Ruston economy is booming, and there are tons of construction projects going on all up and down BOTH SIDES of the I-20 Ruston corridor. Just like the university, the town is growing too.

All that said, we don't want Ruston to become another Lafayette, and/or Monroe. Ruston is much cleaner, nicer and has a very good thing going. And the locals know it. From a world class PGA Golf Course (Squire Creek Country Club, clearly the state's best) to all of the other activities going on at LA Tech and the nearby lakes, there's always something good happening in the area.

LA Tech speaks for itself. Academically, Tech is clearly head and shoulders above the two ULX's. That's one reason why the ULX's always want to play LA Tech so badly. Just yesterday I saw that --for the 7th year in a row-- LA Tech earned National University Tier 1 status from U.S. New and World Report magazine. Neither of the other universities have ever earned such academic praise, and everyone in Louisiana knows it.


I agree that the folks in that area are among the best educated. I suppose a town whose majority works at Tech either as faculty, staff, and even students would be expected to be smart. Ruston is not the wealthiest area in the state. Tech and Ruston folks might recognize it as such, as you say, but U.S. Census folks show that Ruston has a median income of $29,560 whereas that figure for the State of Louisiana is $45,727. The median income for Lincoln Parish, home of La Tech, is only $14,313. The per cap income for Ruston is $17,479. Go back to your tea leaves.
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(09-14-2017 01:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  As an outsider, I think over a 6 year period, it would be great for Tech to schedule 1 for 1s with Tulane, ULL, and ULM. That would give you 1 in state game per season to hopefully get more media coverage, attention, and interest throughout the state. Just my .02.

What's the deal with Tulane? Is Tech trying to duck them as well?
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(09-14-2017 02:12 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 01:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  As an outsider, I think over a 6 year period, it would be great for Tech to schedule 1 for 1s with Tulane, ULL, and ULM. That would give you 1 in state game per season to hopefully get more media coverage, attention, and interest throughout the state. Just my .02.

What's the deal with Tulane? Is Tech trying to duck them as well?

I feel certain that it's probably the other way around, and that Tulane doesn't want any part of Tech.
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(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 12:14 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:50 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Whoever made this Tech / ULM thread was trolling and I'm not mad because it's fun to do that every now and then.

Not trolling. I'm just curious. You guys played every year from 1953-1991 and some in the late 90s and then the series abruptly ended. We as a conference talk about P5 teams ducking us scheduling, but you guys won't play a G5 team that's like 30 minutes down the road. Feel like it'd be a great game for North Louisiana. Just looked it up and the largest crowd ever at Joe Aillet was for a Tech/ULM game. To me, it seems like a natural rivalry.

What's the latest on the Tech/ULL series? That going to get started up again soon?

There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.

(09-14-2017 12:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:13 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 12:14 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 08:50 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Whoever made this Tech / ULM thread was trolling and I'm not mad because it's fun to do that every now and then.

Not trolling. I'm just curious. You guys played every year from 1953-1991 and some in the late 90s and then the series abruptly ended. We as a conference talk about P5 teams ducking us scheduling, but you guys won't play a G5 team that's like 30 minutes down the road. Feel like it'd be a great game for North Louisiana. Just looked it up and the largest crowd ever at Joe Aillet was for a Tech/ULM game. To me, it seems like a natural rivalry.

What's the latest on the Tech/ULL series? That going to get started up again soon?

There are actually some rumblings that we may make a deal with ULM soon. I suspect that will happen before another deal with ULL.

The problem with ULM and ULL is it holds us back and elevates them. The last ULL series worked out really well for us because ULL had done enough to elevate themselves that the games didn't bring us down or lift them up. There is a feeling in Monroe that "if Tech can do it, we can do it". We often refer to them as "Me too U". Tech replaces their field turf, ULM replaces theirs. Tech gets a videoboard, ULM gets a videoboard, Tech builds an endzone complex, ULM builds an endzone complex. We build a new pressbox, .... well ULM hasn't gotten there yet. They have put quite a strain on their resources to "keep up with Tech". For a long time, Tech would face political opposition to any improvements unless the folks at ULM could find a way to do whatever Tech wanted to do at a half step behind.

For years Tech has wanted to make their own destiny without being tied to ULM and ULL. It's the reason we joined the WAC and the reason we are where we are today.
I don't think ULM/L will ever completely accept separation but I think we have done enough to isolate ourselves from any major negative effects of playing them. I suspect a 2 game series with ULM will happen within the next 4-5 years. We still need to make the deal work out for us. The first game should be in Ruston as it will be the best attended.

A word of caution to USM. You will get their best effort. Like it or not, you are a proxy for us this year and if they can beat you it will feel almost as good to them as beating us would.

The first sentence in your second paragraph answers the original question best of all. La Tech, according to one of their recent athletic directors, is an elite team and elite program, and my words now will do nothing they think will enhance the ULL program.

The reason for this is that Tech is located in the wasteland between Monroe and Shreveport. They have no tv stations, only 6-7 legitimate motels, only a rag for a local newspaper, no airport, small town, etc. They are mostly a commuter school and pulling in fans has been a historical problem. If ULM should, in any possible way, become able to field a representative team then the Monroe market would belong to them putting Tech in a bad spot. Shreveport is an LSU, Texas, and Arkansas hotbed and if Monroe became fully ULM then lights out.

In summary, ULL is Techs greatest nightmare.


That's funny. He who bets on ULL will likely end up broke. 03-thumbsup Since 1996, ULL has only had 3 winning seasons. More recently, the Cajuns sport a whopping .436 winning percentage record during Mark Hudspeth's 7 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana%...s_football

For the record, LA Tech has more bowl games, more bowl wins, more conference championships, and 11 winning seasons over that same period since 1996.

That's 11 vs 3. Anywho.........

Ruston is actually in the absolute best location in the entire state of Louisiana. Situated perfectly between Shreveport/Bossier city to the west and Monroe to the east, Ruston has one of the state's most educated populations, lowest crime rates, and one of the highest standards of living in Louisiana. As discussed (and proven) before on this same board, Ruston is widely recognized as the wealthiest city/town in the state of Louisiana.

Ruston is so far north in the state that it's never threatened by hurricanes or flooding. In fact, many coastal residents flee to Ruston and surrounding areas when seeking protection from hurricanes and flooding. And we are happy to accommodate, just as we did for Tulane students and athletes during the Hurricane Katrina fiasco.

The Ruston economy is booming, and there are tons of construction projects going on all up and down BOTH SIDES of the I-20 Ruston corridor. Just like the university, the town is growing too.

All that said, we don't want Ruston to become another Lafayette, and/or Monroe. Ruston is much cleaner, nicer and has a very good thing going. And the locals know it. From a world class PGA Golf Course (Squire Creek Country Club, clearly the state's best) to all of the other activities going on at LA Tech and the nearby lakes, there's always something good happening in the area.

LA Tech speaks for itself. Academically, Tech is clearly head and shoulders above the two ULX's. That's one reason why the ULX's always want to play LA Tech so badly. Just yesterday I saw that --for the 7th year in a row-- LA Tech earned National University Tier 1 status from U.S. New and World Report magazine. Neither of the other universities have ever earned such academic praise, and everyone in Louisiana knows it.

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(09-13-2017 01:09 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  I'll hang up and listen.

Right now the issue is that ULM needs Tech, but doesn't want the community or "football world" to know it. Tech is perfectly fine offering ULM a 2 for 1 or an FCS level paycheck, but ULM's AD understands the perception of accepting that kind of deal, and how it would be received by a limited "engaged" list of donors. ULM wants a Home and Home with ULM getting the first home game because that will be the one historically that allows them to draw a crowd and make money on the game. Tech obviously wants the first game because historically the ULM fanbase will only pick one of the games to attend.

Whether Cajun and Warhawk fans want to admit it or not, Tech achieved separation when it went Independent and eventually jumped into the WAC. While ULM and ULL got cozy and comfortable barely getting by on the football field, Tech was scheduling big dogs and logging huge lots of miles competing in a very competitive conference. Tech took a huge risk and came out of it better. I would think it would still be pretty fresh in the minds of Cajun fans exactly where the hierarchy of Louisiana football lies, but I guess not. Though I will admit that was one hell of a time watching reality sink into Cajun Field when they realized exactly why Tech has that little bit of swagger they take the wrong way.
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(09-14-2017 01:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  As an outsider, I think over a 6 year period, it would be great for Tech to schedule 1 for 1s with Tulane, ULL, and ULM. That would give you 1 in state game per season to hopefully get more media coverage, attention, and interest throughout the state. Just my .02.
That would be a smart move for LTU.

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(09-14-2017 04:18 PM)SICemDAWGS! Wrote:  ULM wants a Home and Home with ULM getting the first home game because that will be the one historically that allows them to draw a crowd and make money on the game. Tech obviously wants the first game because historically the ULM fanbase will only pick one of the games to attend.

I'm not following that one. Wasn't it ULM that gave the Joe one of its best crowds ever?
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(09-14-2017 04:18 PM)SICemDAWGS! Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 01:09 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  I'll hang up and listen.

Right now the issue is that ULM needs Tech, but doesn't want the community or "football world" to know it. Tech is perfectly fine offering ULM a 2 for 1 or an FCS level paycheck, but ULM's AD understands the perception of accepting that kind of deal, and how it would be received by a limited "engaged" list of donors. ULM wants a Home and Home with ULM getting the first home game because that will be the one historically that allows them to draw a crowd and make money on the game. Tech obviously wants the first game because historically the ULM fanbase will only pick one of the games to attend.

Whether Cajun and Warhawk fans want to admit it or not, Tech achieved separation when it went Independent and eventually jumped into the WAC. While ULM and ULL got cozy and comfortable barely getting by on the football field, Tech was scheduling big dogs and logging huge lots of miles competing in a very competitive conference. Tech took a huge risk and came out of it better. I would think it would still be pretty fresh in the minds of Cajun fans exactly where the hierarchy of Louisiana football lies, but I guess not. Though I will admit that was one hell of a time watching reality sink into Cajun Field when they realized exactly why Tech has that little bit of swagger they take the wrong way.

You guys need help seriously. Why would we ever take a 2 for 1 from Tech? Baylor, Minnesota, Wyoming, Tulsa, USM, Memphis, and Wake Forest were all fine with 1 and 1's with ULM and Tech shouldn't be? You guys aren't LSU I hate to tell you. Your team looks like crap so far this year too. 3rd and Goal from your own 5? HAHAHA. And your separation has not occurred. Like it or not you are in a conference that is equal to the SBC at best according to the final standings the past few years in football, especially now that the TV money is a joke.
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Good of one of ULM's eleven remaiming fans to show up to fight the good fight.

Why don't you guys stop delaying the inevitable and accept reality, Idaho finally did...
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We are never going FCS. Keep dreaming. What do you care anyway? Idaho is in a much different situation geographically than us.
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(09-14-2017 07:15 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  We are never going FCS. Keep dreaming. What do you care anyway? Idaho is in a much different situation geographically than us.

Dreaming?

You guys are an afterthought if that.

Your relevance as a FBS program began and ended with Kolton Browning.
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(09-14-2017 04:52 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 04:18 PM)SICemDAWGS! Wrote:  ULM wants a Home and Home with ULM getting the first home game because that will be the one historically that allows them to draw a crowd and make money on the game. Tech obviously wants the first game because historically the ULM fanbase will only pick one of the games to attend.

I'm not following that one. Wasn't it ULM that gave the Joe one of its best crowds ever?

Yes, that game was after the two had not played since 1991 IIRC. The following year Tech outnumbered ULM 2 to 1 at Malone, and the final game at Malone Tech outnumbered ULM at least 3 to 1. ULM will support the series for a game, and.if they lose will.lose interest. A 2 for 1 at leaves gives Tech two gates they can spread out to sell to Older alumni. ULM wants the game 1 gate because they could sell 25k easily without giving a few thousand tickets away or selling them at huge discounts.
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