(06-26-2017 11:40 AM)JCGSU Wrote: (06-26-2017 06:03 AM)AppManDG Wrote: (06-26-2017 01:39 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote: (06-22-2017 10:45 PM)doberman1 Wrote: That list is either outdated or wrong. They have us with 4 committments and as of today we have 11. I realize it is tough keeping up with everybody and kids committ somewhere every day. This list was done about a month ago. Will they update this from time to time?
The list only shows players that have a rating, they actually show you with 8. On the bright side, you could be App State, who has a freaking 24/7 site and still can only get 6/11 players rated.
Why get caught up in what some guy from who knows where that has never seen these kids play thinks about our recruits? I could care less if we finish last in the SB every year in these so-called recruting sites lists. Ask Satterfield what he thinks of these sites. Our team is full of low rated players who have been, or will be, All SB team guys. I put far more trust in what the coaches think than some guy who more than likely has never snapped on a helmet.
Yes because who did you beat of note at all in the FBS? App has beaten teams where the talent disparity is not that huge but has yet to beat anyone where the talent disparity is huge. The last time you played the team in the Sun Belt with the highest rated roster they curbed stomped you as well. Also App was the only team with that low rated talent to share a conference title much less have a winning record. So yes hold on to that coach as long as you can because he is beating the odds for now.
Other things play a part in winning like ummm coaching and development that is how a team that lead the FBS or close to it in rushing for two straight years goes to crap with but talent will always be the #1 factor. It is not exact so people use the mentally lazy few examples of a few players or teams that exceed roster expectations and ignore the 90% of other teams and literally thousands of players that perform extremely close if not dead on where the rankings had them. You will not win consistently nor beat any teams of note with low rated talent the vast majority of the time period. One class or two good or bad classes are not going to kill you or change much it is the totality of your roster. We out recruited P5's in 2016 but when you follow that up with being in the bottom 1/4 you probably will remain the same. If we are any team consistently stayed in the 70's when the rest of the conference were in the 90's+ over a long period that team would crush the conference with competent coaching. Just because they are not 100% dead on or predict every game does not mean they don have merit. There is a reason the recruit rankings look a whole hell of a lot like the actual rankings and conference standings. It is a very strong correlation. For every App that greatly exceeds exceptions based on total team talent rank there are ton they fall right inline.
You've been beating this drum for awhile now and it's getting old. If signing three star recruits means success through supoerior talent, you guys should be killing it. You had the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rated classes the past three years. Oh yea I forgot... coaching & philosophy changes.
While over that same three years App's classes have ranked (adjusted for players no longer in the program) 6, 7 & 7. Yet here we are fresh off a SB chamapionship, 2 bowl victories and the preseason favorite to win it in 2017. How is that possible? If, as you say, Satterfield has simply been "beating the odds" with low rated players, you're delusional.
App signed twelve 3 star players in the 2013, 14 & 15 classes, only seven stuck (including 1 juco who graduated). One is a starter and six are backups to lower rated players.
3 star .815 RB Tewrrance Upshaw chose App over Vandy & 3 star .820 RB Josh Boyd App over Syracuse and Washington State. Both are career backups to 2 star .778 Marcus Cox and almost no star .699 SB OPOY Jalin Moore.
3 star .845 WR Jalyn Barbour chose App over Wake Forest. Couldn't get on the field and transferred. 3 star .816 Jordan Noil chose App over Maryland then transferred to a juco after his freshman year. 3 star .834 Nikia Cathy originally comitted to Miss State then chose App over Indiana. Could not get on the field and transferred.
3 star .845 DB Treyon Garnett couldn't get on the field and transferred to Alabama State. 3 star .845 DB Anthony Covington signed with App over Pitt. Couldn't get off the scout team and transferred to UNCC.
One more thing. Please stop blabbering on and on about a coach being judged for beating teams with a talent level advantage. Coaches are hired with the expectation of beating teams at their own level. It's laughable that you delegitimize Satterfield for not beating higher rated teams. All while every knowledgeable football analyst in college football considers him to be one of the hottest coaching prospects in the country. Obviously your hatred towards App is simply too great to allow you to see things clearly.