(05-01-2017 07:26 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:24 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:15 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Just tweeted by Calkins with a link to his article.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...101162186/

The way I read this negative article, it appears that calkins is quick to overlook a simple fact. Tubby wants his style of players and does not believe in one and done.

How many one and done's has he coached?

well, we had 6 transfers, so I guess they were one and done (with Tubby)

(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

Agreed. Let the results speak for him.

(05-01-2017 07:25 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:09 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  I hope Tubby and his recruits kick @$$ next year

HOPE .... is not a strategy

You are correct. I hoped Josh would win every year and he recruited well........

I will wait to see if Tubby recruited a TEAM before I determine that he hasn't...

Tubby should just tell everyone he wants to do it his way and to kick rocks if you don't like it. Trying to sell us on the idea that it's hard to get high-level players here makes him sound clueless.

Time to clean house at the athletic department as a whole. Cannot sit still and allow this to happen.

(05-01-2017 07:55 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Time to clean house at the athletic department as a whole. Cannot sit still and allow this to happen.

ummmm... where were you 3-4 years ago when many were saying the same thing?

(05-01-2017 07:49 PM)Rob Wrote:  Tubby should just tell everyone he wants to do it his way and to kick rocks if you don't like it. Trying to sell us on the idea that it's hard to get high-level players here makes him sound clueless.

Agreed

(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

How can any Tiger fan read those comments and not be furious at our coach. It's insulting to our history, brand, fanbase. Today was it for me...I'm not buying tickets this year.

(05-01-2017 08:23 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

How can any Tiger fan read those comments and not be furious at our coach. It's insulting to our history, brand, fanbase. Today was it for me...I'm not buying tickets this year.

There are plenty of things people can defend Tubby about that, while I may disagree, are atleast legitimate. Defending him on what he says just makes me disregard anyone who does try to defend him on it.

Norvell could use everyone of those same excuses with much more legitimacy. It is a joke for people to try and twist this into anything more than what it is. Tubby is a lame duck and the game has passed him by. He is equivalent to Joe Lee Dunn, but JLD was more innovative during his time.

(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

I would assume he has a "promotion" clause in his contract (not that he has done much); can't cut off media and promote Tiger basketball. I hope you are right but I'm afraid all the indicators are saying no.

(05-01-2017 07:05 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:00 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 06:58 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:22 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Tubby has more job security than the staff at the CA.

Absolutely...

He still recruits like shiat

I hear ya, but we will find out when the season starts. Until then, nobody knows. Only speculative shiat.

When there is consensus of professionals in the recruiting field ranking his class below 50 I wouldn't call it speculative.

His recruiting has been subpar...Maybe he is a great at developing talent and he gets these guys to play over their head...But wouldn't it be even better if the floor was higher to start from.

Maybe he is great talent evaluator, but surely he is not Nostradamus where he is one of the few who sees these guys as better than all the higher rated guys.

I think he could do better if he played the game, I don't think he likes the game or is willing to play the game, this should have been vetted during the interview process.

Now with everything I said heck the team could still be good next year...But with better recruiting it would have been even better.

(05-01-2017 08:23 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

How can any Tiger fan read those comments and not be furious at our coach. It's insulting to our history, brand, fanbase. Today was it for me...I'm not buying tickets this year.

Well at least a few times when we've had really good teams, we've gotten busted for cheating. I love our Tigers and I realize many probably bend/break the rules, but I wonder how easy it is to recruit to Memphis w/out being shady.

(05-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:05 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:00 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 06:58 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:22 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Tubby has more job security than the staff at the CA.

Absolutely...

He still recruits like shiat

I hear ya, but we will find out when the season starts. Until then, nobody knows. Only speculative shiat.

When there is consensus of professionals in the recruiting field ranking his class below 50 I wouldn't call it speculative.

His recruiting has been subpar...Maybe he is a great at developing talent and he gets these guys to play over their head...But wouldn't it be even better if the floor was higher to start from.

Maybe he is great talent evaluator, but surely he is not Nostradamus where he is one of the few who sees these guys as better than all the higher rated guys.

I think he could do better if he played the game, I don't think he likes the game or is willing to play the game, this should have been vetted during the interview process.

Now with everything I said heck the team could still be good next year...But with better recruiting it would have been even better.

The better recruiting line. I get it, but just because you have higher ranked players doesn't mean you have a better team. There are so many other variables that come into play.


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(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

Even winning won't shut them up. The refrain will be "he didn't win enough."

I was going to say he should just give bland answers full of clichés, like a lot of coaches. But I'm sure he would get criticized for that.

(05-01-2017 05:24 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:15 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Just tweeted by Calkins with a link to his article.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...101162186/

The way I read this negative article, it appears that calkins is quick to overlook a simple fact. Tubby wants his style of players and does not believe in one and done.

Go back and read every argument this board had about Tommy West's recruiting if you believe that. It's the exact same bs. I have my own evaluation system, don't care about national rankings, want my guys etc etc.

(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

You know what I'd do? Get out there and work my butt off recruiting. And do community outreach and charity work. And connect with tiger fan at school sponsored and local charity events.

It's the media, sure. It's not the fact that he's letting one assistant do all the recruiting while feeding us stuff about how bad we are and we should accept our poor position

(05-01-2017 07:31 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let me just add, if I were Tubby, I'm not sure how I'd handle some of the media here. I'd likely shut em down and cut em off. What's he got to lose at this point by doing that? Some are going to bash him regardless.
I guess he's just got to shut these people up by winning. Could happen.

Agreed. Let the results speak for him.

Oh they're going to. I wonder who will hear what they're saying though.

(05-01-2017 07:05 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:00 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 06:58 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:22 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Tubby has more job security than the staff at the CA.

Absolutely...

He still recruits like shiat

I hear ya, but we will find out when the season starts. Until then, nobody knows. Only speculative shiat.

History proves he recruits like shiat.

(05-01-2017 08:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 07:49 PM)Rob Wrote:  Tubby should just tell everyone he wants to do it his way and to kick rocks if you don't like it. Trying to sell us on the idea that it's hard to get high-level players here makes him sound clueless.

Agreed

That'll go over like a loud fart in church. It is the truth probably.

But it's akin to saying "you idiots don't get it just trust me"

(05-01-2017 07:26 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:24 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 05:15 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Just tweeted by Calkins with a link to his article.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...101162186/

The way I read this negative article, it appears that calkins is quick to overlook a simple fact. Tubby wants his style of players and does not believe in one and done.

How many one and done's has he coached?

Probably none because it is not his style!