This is about schools who used to have football or who downgraded football?

Which conference they should go into today if they did not dropped or downgraded?


American University dropped 1941
Little Rock 1955
Boston U.
Bradley
Fullerton State
Long Beach State
Northridge State
Cal.-Riverside
Cal.-Santa Barbara
Canisius
Centenary LA
College of Charleston 1923
Creighton
Denver
DePaul
Detroit
Drexel
Evansville
Fairfield
George Washington
Gonzaga
High Point
Hofstra
Illinois-Chicago
Iona
La Salle
Long Island
Loyola Marymount
Loyola-Chicago
Loyola-Maryland
Manhattan
Marquette
Maryland-Eastern Shore
Mount Saint Mary's
City College of New York
NYU
Niagara
UNC-Asheville
Pacific
Pepperdine
Portland
Providence
Rider
Saint Bonaventure
St. Francis NY
St. Johns NY
Saint Joseph's
Saint Louis
St. Mary's, California
Saint Peter's
U. of San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
Siena
Texas A&M-Corpus Christie
UTA
UTRGV
Vermont
Wichita State
Milwaukee
Xavier, Ohio
Alaska-Fairbanks
University of Baltimore former D1
Bradley
Brooklyn
California Baptist
CalTech
California State- Los Angeles
Cal-San Diego
Cameron
Colorado College
University of District Columbia
Fairleigh Dickinson University
Haskell Indian Nations University
Lake Superior State University
Morris Brown College about to close. School have less than 100 student enrolled.
University of Nebraska Omaha
University of North Georgia
Oakland University
Oklahoma City University
Phillips University now closed was a former SWC member
Saint Leo University
San Francisco State University
Sonoma State University
University of Tampa
Texas Wesleyan University would reinstate their football team this fall, formally played as a major college.
Case Western Reserve University now in D3
Western Washington University
Washburn was in MVC
West Texas A&M was in MVC
Sewanee
Trinity Texas
Southwestern Texas
Washington MO
Grinnell
Washington and Lee
Johns Hopkins
Carnegie Mellon
Bentley
Assumption
Colorado Mines
Regis
Metro State
Western State
American International College
Merrimack College
Northern Michigan University was a member of a D1 for all sports with Youngstown State and some MAC members from Michigan.
Michigan Technological University
Wayne State University
Eastern New Mexico University
Adelphi University
Le Moyne College
Mercy College
Winston–Salem State University
Cedarville University
Mercyhurst University
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Erskine College
Angelo State University
Texas A&M University–Kingsville
Texas A&M University–Commerce
University of Charleston
Shepherd University
Birmingham–Southern College
California Lutheran University
Chapman University
Claremont–Mudd–Scripps three small colleges combined their football to form one team. ClareMont, Harvey Mudd and Scripps
University of La Verne
Occidental College
Pomona College and Pitzer College to form Pomona Pitzer
University of Redlands
Whittier College
The California D3 schools in that conference used to played against UCLA.
Trinity College Conn.
United States Coast Guard Academy
Wesleyan University
Catholic University of America
Gallaudet University
University of Chicago
Eureka College
Illinois College
Illinois Wesleyan University
Knox College
Lake Forest College Was asked to be co-founders of the Big 10.
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Coe College
Cornell College Iowa
Centre College
Thomas More College
Louisiana College
Mississippi College
Bates College
Bowdoin College
Colby College
Husson University
Maine Maritime Academy
Salisbury University
Amherst College
University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Massachusetts Maritime Academy
Springfield College
Wheaton College
Williams College
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester State University
Adrian College
Alma College
Hope College
Kalamazoo College
Olivet College
Gustavus Adolphus College
Hamline University
University of St. Thomas
Plymouth State University
Rowan University
Buffalo State College
Hartwick College[
Hobart
Ithaca College
Cortland State
New York Maritime
RPI
Merchant Marines
Utica College
Guilford College
Methodist University
Capital University
Heidelberg University
Oberlin College
College of Wooster
George Fox University
Linfield College
Pacific University Oregon
Willamette University
Albright College
Carnegie Mellon University
Dickinson College
Franklin & Marshall College[
Gettysburg College
Grove City College
Muhlenberg College
Swarthmore College
Ursinus College
Washington & Jefferson College
Salve Regina University
Maryville College
Rhodes College
Austin College
Sul Ross State University
Southwestern
Hardin-Simmons
Norwich University
Bridgewater College
Hampden–Sydney College
Randolph–Macon College
Roanoke College
Shenandoah University
Washington and Lee University
Pacific Lutheran University
University of Puget Sound
Whitman College
Carthage College
University of Wisconsin–La Crosse
University of Wisconsin–Oshkosh
University of Wisconsin–Whitewater
College of Idaho
Indiana Wesleyan University
Baker University
Friends University
Georgetown College
University of the Cumberlands
Union College
Union, Tenn.
Cumberland University
West Virginia University Institute of Technology
Wentworth Military Academy and College
Marion Military Institute
Georgia Military College
Mississippi Delta Community College
New Mexico Military Institute


These were all used to be D1 or considered major programs at one time. Were would they be now today?

the BIG 10 obviously

(04-21-2017 09:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  This is about schools who used to have football or who downgraded football?

Which conference they should go into today if they did not dropped or downgraded?


American University dropped 1941
Little Rock 1955
Boston U.
Bradley
Fullerton State
Long Beach State
Northridge State
Cal.-Riverside
Cal.-Santa Barbara
Canisius
Centenary LA
College of Charleston 1923
Creighton
Denver
DePaul
Detroit
Drexel
Evansville
Fairfield
George Washington
Gonzaga
High Point
Hofstra
Illinois-Chicago
Iona
La Salle
Long Island
Loyola Marymount
Loyola-Chicago
Loyola-Maryland
Manhattan
Marquette
Maryland-Eastern Shore
Mount Saint Mary's
City College of New York
NYU
Niagara
UNC-Asheville
Pacific
Pepperdine
Portland
Providence
Rider
Saint Bonaventure
St. Francis NY
St. Johns NY
Saint Joseph's
Saint Louis
St. Mary's, California
Saint Peter's
U. of San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
Siena
Texas A&M-Corpus Christie
UTA
UTRGV
Vermont
Wichita State
Milwaukee
Xavier, Ohio
Alaska-Fairbanks
University of Baltimore former D1
Bradley
Brooklyn
California Baptist
CalTech
California State- Los Angeles
Cal-San Diego
Cameron
Colorado College
University of District Columbia
Fairleigh Dickinson University
Haskell Indian Nations University
Lake Superior State University
Morris Brown College about to close. School have less than 100 student enrolled.
University of Nebraska Omaha
University of North Georgia
Oakland University
Oklahoma City University
Phillips University now closed was a former SWC member
Saint Leo University
San Francisco State University
Sonoma State University
University of Tampa
Texas Wesleyan University would reinstate their football team this fall, formally played as a major college.
Case Western Reserve University now in D3
Western Washington University
Washburn was in MVC
West Texas A&M was in MVC
Sewanee
Trinity Texas
Southwestern Texas
Washington MO
Grinnell
Washington and Lee
Johns Hopkins
Carnegie Mellon
Bentley
Assumption
Colorado Mines
Regis
Metro State
Western State
American International College
Merrimack College
Northern Michigan University was a member of a D1 for all sports with Youngstown State and some MAC members from Michigan.
Michigan Technological University
Wayne State University
Eastern New Mexico University
Adelphi University
Le Moyne College
Mercy College
Winston–Salem State University
Cedarville University
Mercyhurst University
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Erskine College
Angelo State University
Texas A&M University–Kingsville
Texas A&M University–Commerce
University of Charleston
Shepherd University
Birmingham–Southern College
California Lutheran University
Chapman University
Claremont–Mudd–Scripps three small colleges combined their football to form one team. ClareMont, Harvey Mudd and Scripps
University of La Verne
Occidental College
Pomona College and Pitzer College to form Pomona Pitzer
University of Redlands
Whittier College
The California D3 schools in that conference used to played against UCLA.
Trinity College Conn.
United States Coast Guard Academy
Wesleyan University
Catholic University of America
Gallaudet University
University of Chicago
Eureka College
Illinois College
Illinois Wesleyan University
Knox College
Lake Forest College Was asked to be co-founders of the Big 10.
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Coe College
Cornell College Iowa
Centre College
Thomas More College
Louisiana College
Mississippi College
Bates College
Bowdoin College
Colby College
Husson University
Maine Maritime Academy
Salisbury University
Amherst College
University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Massachusetts Maritime Academy
Springfield College
Wheaton College
Williams College
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester State University
Adrian College
Alma College
Hope College
Kalamazoo College
Olivet College
Gustavus Adolphus College
Hamline University
University of St. Thomas
Plymouth State University
Rowan University
Buffalo State College
Hartwick College[
Hobart
Ithaca College
Cortland State
New York Maritime
RPI
Merchant Marines
Utica College
Guilford College
Methodist University
Capital University
Heidelberg University
Oberlin College
College of Wooster
George Fox University
Linfield College
Pacific University Oregon
Willamette University
Albright College
Carnegie Mellon University
Dickinson College
Franklin & Marshall College[
Gettysburg College
Grove City College
Muhlenberg College
Swarthmore College
Ursinus College
Washington & Jefferson College
Salve Regina University
Maryville College
Rhodes College
Austin College
Sul Ross State University
Southwestern
Hardin-Simmons
Norwich University
Bridgewater College
Hampden–Sydney College
Randolph–Macon College
Roanoke College
Shenandoah University
Washington and Lee University
Pacific Lutheran University
University of Puget Sound
Whitman College
Carthage College
University of Wisconsin–La Crosse
University of Wisconsin–Oshkosh
University of Wisconsin–Whitewater
College of Idaho
Indiana Wesleyan University
Baker University
Friends University
Georgetown College
University of the Cumberlands
Union College
Union, Tenn.
Cumberland University
West Virginia University Institute of Technology
Wentworth Military Academy and College
Marion Military Institute
Georgia Military College
Mississippi Delta Community College
New Mexico Military Institute


These were all used to be D1 or considered major programs at one time. Were would they be now today?

Where's Carlisle? Jim Thorpe played there!

(04-21-2017 09:51 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  the BIG 10 obviously

He is missing one that actually would be in the Big10: University of Chicago.

(04-22-2017 06:59 AM)dayooper Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:51 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  the BIG 10 obviously

He is missing one that actually would be in the Big10: University of Chicago.

It's on his list but the list is so jumbled that it's hard to find one you might be looking for. I don't see Marquette on the list but it might be there. They used to be a regular on Wisconsin's schedule.

I hate to burst your bubble, but the answer is their non-football sports would all be in the exact same conference their non-football teams play in now, and their football teams would be in an FCS football only conferences like the MVFC or pioneer league.

So for example Bradley would probably be similar to how Drake University ended up. The non-football sports would play in the MVC. The football team would be an FCS non-scholarship program playing in a midwest version of the pioneer league.

It's actually an interesting hypothetical, but the problem is that DavidSt throws just a massive, unorganized list (directly from wikipedia) out there that comes as just a wall of crazy text. I mean, no one can sort through all that. I'm not sure if the expectation is to come up with a conference for each one of those 100 or so schools from DI-NAIA...

Anyways, it's interesting enough of a question, so how about if I do some weed-whacking and propose a more manageable and relevant list:

What conferences do you think these football programs would be in today if they were still around and what would those conferences look like?

Boston U
Pacific
Cal State Fullerton
Long Beach State
Wichita State

(04-22-2017 07:33 AM)3BNole Wrote:  It's actually an interesting hypothetical, but the problem is that DavidSt throws just a massive, unorganized list (directly from wikipedia) out there that comes as just a wall of crazy text. I mean, no one can sort through all that. I'm not sure if the expectation is to come up with a conference for each one of those 100 or so schools from DI-NAIA...

Anyways, it's interesting enough of a question, so how about if I do some weed-whacking and propose a more manageable and relevant list:

What conferences do you think these football programs would be in today if they were still around and what would those conferences look like?

Boston U
Pacific
Cal State Fullerton
Long Beach State
Wichita State

Boston University football would likely be in the Patriot League. Only Army and Navy have football elsewhere from that conference.

Pacific, Cal State Fullerton, and Long Beach St - maybe we still have a WAC? Those 3 + San Jose St, Idaho, Utah St, and New Mexico St? Maybe Nevada and/or Hawaii?

Wichita St would probably be in the AAC or CUSA deoending on how their athletics went

(04-22-2017 12:44 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  This is about schools who used to have football or who downgraded football?

Which conference they should go into today if they did not dropped or downgraded?


American University dropped 1941
Little Rock 1955
Boston U.
Bradley
Fullerton State
Long Beach State
Northridge State
Cal.-Riverside
Cal.-Santa Barbara
Canisius
Centenary LA
College of Charleston 1923
Creighton
Denver
DePaul
Detroit
Drexel
Evansville
Fairfield
George Washington
Gonzaga
High Point
Hofstra
Illinois-Chicago
Iona
La Salle
Long Island
Loyola Marymount
Loyola-Chicago
Loyola-Maryland
Manhattan
Marquette
Maryland-Eastern Shore
Mount Saint Mary's
City College of New York
NYU
Niagara
UNC-Asheville
Pacific
Pepperdine
Portland
Providence
Rider
Saint Bonaventure
St. Francis NY
St. Johns NY
Saint Joseph's
Saint Louis
St. Mary's, California
Saint Peter's
U. of San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
Siena
Texas A&M-Corpus Christie
UTA
UTRGV
Vermont
Wichita State
Milwaukee
Xavier, Ohio
Alaska-Fairbanks
University of Baltimore former D1
Bradley
Brooklyn
California Baptist
CalTech
California State- Los Angeles
Cal-San Diego
Cameron
Colorado College
University of District Columbia
Fairleigh Dickinson University
Haskell Indian Nations University
Lake Superior State University
Morris Brown College about to close. School have less than 100 student enrolled.
University of Nebraska Omaha
University of North Georgia
Oakland University
Oklahoma City University
Phillips University now closed was a former SWC member
Saint Leo University
San Francisco State University
Sonoma State University
University of Tampa
Texas Wesleyan University would reinstate their football team this fall, formally played as a major college.
Case Western Reserve University now in D3
Western Washington University
Washburn was in MVC
West Texas A&M was in MVC
Sewanee
Trinity Texas
Southwestern Texas
Washington MO
Grinnell
Washington and Lee
Johns Hopkins
Carnegie Mellon
Bentley
Assumption
Colorado Mines
Regis
Metro State
Western State
American International College
Merrimack College
Northern Michigan University was a member of a D1 for all sports with Youngstown State and some MAC members from Michigan.
Michigan Technological University
Wayne State University
Eastern New Mexico University
Adelphi University
Le Moyne College
Mercy College
Winston–Salem State University
Cedarville University
Mercyhurst University
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Erskine College
Angelo State University
Texas A&M University–Kingsville
Texas A&M University–Commerce
University of Charleston
Shepherd University
Birmingham–Southern College
California Lutheran University
Chapman University
Claremont–Mudd–Scripps three small colleges combined their football to form one team. ClareMont, Harvey Mudd and Scripps
University of La Verne
Occidental College
Pomona College and Pitzer College to form Pomona Pitzer
University of Redlands
Whittier College
The California D3 schools in that conference used to played against UCLA.
Trinity College Conn.
United States Coast Guard Academy
Wesleyan University
Catholic University of America
Gallaudet University
University of Chicago
Eureka College
Illinois College
Illinois Wesleyan University
Knox College
Lake Forest College Was asked to be co-founders of the Big 10.
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Coe College
Cornell College Iowa
Centre College
Thomas More College
Louisiana College
Mississippi College
Bates College
Bowdoin College
Colby College
Husson University
Maine Maritime Academy
Salisbury University
Amherst College
University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Massachusetts Maritime Academy
Springfield College
Wheaton College
Williams College
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester State University
Adrian College
Alma College
Hope College
Kalamazoo College
Olivet College
Gustavus Adolphus College
Hamline University
University of St. Thomas
Plymouth State University
Rowan University
Buffalo State College
Hartwick College[
Hobart
Ithaca College
Cortland State
New York Maritime
RPI
Merchant Marines
Utica College
Guilford College
Methodist University
Capital University
Heidelberg University
Oberlin College
College of Wooster
George Fox University
Linfield College
Pacific University Oregon
Willamette University
Albright College
Carnegie Mellon University
Dickinson College
Franklin & Marshall College[
Gettysburg College
Grove City College
Muhlenberg College
Swarthmore College
Ursinus College
Washington & Jefferson College
Salve Regina University
Maryville College
Rhodes College
Austin College
Sul Ross State University
Southwestern
Hardin-Simmons
Norwich University
Bridgewater College
Hampden–Sydney College
Randolph–Macon College
Roanoke College
Shenandoah University
Washington and Lee University
Pacific Lutheran University
University of Puget Sound
Whitman College
Carthage College
University of Wisconsin–La Crosse
University of Wisconsin–Oshkosh
University of Wisconsin–Whitewater
College of Idaho
Indiana Wesleyan University
Baker University
Friends University
Georgetown College
University of the Cumberlands
Union College
Union, Tenn.
Cumberland University
West Virginia University Institute of Technology
Wentworth Military Academy and College
Marion Military Institute
Georgia Military College
Mississippi Delta Community College
New Mexico Military Institute


These were all used to be D1 or considered major programs at one time. Were would they be now today?

Where's Carlisle? Jim Thorpe played there!

Did not add schools that shut down between 1900 and 1930. They did not have enough history in college sports.

I am going to prune David's list to schools that are currently in Division I:



American University - Patriot League
Little Rock - Sun Belt
Boston U. - Patriot League
Bradley - Pioneer League
Fullerton State - Big West
Long Beach State - Big West
Northridge State - Big West
Cal.-Riverside - Big West
Cal.-Santa Barbara - Big West
Canisius - MAAC
College of Charleston - CAA
Creighton - Big East
Denver - Pioneer League
DePaul - Big East
Detroit - Pioneer League
Drexel - CAA
Evansville - Pioneer League
Fairfield - MAAC
George Washington - Atlantic 10
Gonzaga - West Coast
High Point - Big South
Hofstra - CAA
Illinois-Chicago - Pioneer League
Iona - MAAC
La Salle - Pioneer League
Long Island - Northeast
Loyola Marymount - West Coast
Loyola-Chicago - Pioneer League
Loyola-Maryland - Patriot League
Manhattan - MAAC
Marquette - Big East
Maryland-Eastern Shore
Mount Saint Mary's
Niagara - Pioneer League
UNC-Asheville - Big South
Pacific - West Coast
Pepperdine - West Coast
Portland - West Coast
Providence - Big East
Rider - MAAC
Saint Bonaventure - Atlantic 10
St. Francis NY - Northeast
St. John's NY - Big East
Saint Joseph's - Atlantic 10
Saint Louis - Atlantic 10
St. Mary's, California - West Coast
Saint Peter's - MAAC
U. of San Francisco - West Coast
Santa Clara - West Coast
Seton Hall - Big East (FCS conference)
Siena - MAAC
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi - Southland
UTA - Sun Belt
UTRGV - WAC
Vermont - America East (split from CAA)
Wichita State - MVFC
Milwaukee - Pioneer League
Xavier, Ohio - Big East (FCS conference)
California Baptist - Big Sky (football only)

For the "new" conferences:
America East - Albany, Maine, Monmouth (football only), New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Stony Brook, Vermont
Atlantic 10 - Dayton (upgrades from Pioneer League), George Washington, Rhode Island, Richmond, Saint Bonaventure, Saint Joseph's, Saint Louis
Big East - Butler (updgrades from Pioneer League), Creighton, DePaul, Marquette, Providence, Saint John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, Xavier
Big West - Cal Poly, Fullerton State, Long Beach State, Northridge State, UC-Riverside, UC-Santa Barbara, UC Davis
MAAC (non-scholarship) - Canisius, Fairfield, Iona, Manhattan, Niagara, Rider, Siena
West Coast (non-scholarship) - Gonzaga, Loyola Marymount, Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland, Saint Mary's, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Clara

(04-22-2017 09:51 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  I am going to prune David's list to schools that are currently in Division I:



American University - Patriot League
Little Rock - Sun Belt
Boston U. - Patriot League
Bradley - Pioneer League
Fullerton State - Big West
Long Beach State - Big West
Northridge State - Big West
Cal.-Riverside - Big West
Cal.-Santa Barbara - Big West
Canisius - MAAC
College of Charleston - CAA
Creighton - Big East
Denver - Pioneer League
DePaul - Big East
Detroit - Pioneer League
Drexel - CAA
Evansville - Pioneer League
Fairfield - MAAC
George Washington - Atlantic 10
Gonzaga - West Coast
High Point - Big South
Hofstra - CAA
Illinois-Chicago - Pioneer League
Iona - MAAC
La Salle - Pioneer League
Long Island - Northeast
Loyola Marymount - West Coast
Loyola-Chicago - Pioneer League
Loyola-Maryland - Patriot League
Manhattan - MAAC
Marquette - Big East
Maryland-Eastern Shore
Mount Saint Mary's
Niagara - Pioneer League
UNC-Asheville - Big South
Pacific - West Coast
Pepperdine - West Coast
Portland - West Coast
Providence - Big East
Rider - MAAC
Saint Bonaventure - Atlantic 10
St. Francis NY - Northeast
St. John's NY - Big East
Saint Joseph's - Atlantic 10
Saint Louis - Atlantic 10
St. Mary's, California - West Coast
Saint Peter's - MAAC
U. of San Francisco - West Coast
Santa Clara - West Coast
Seton Hall - Big East (FCS conference)
Siena - MAAC
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi - Southland
UTA - Sun Belt
UTRGV - WAC
Vermont - America East (split from CAA)
Wichita State - MVFC
Milwaukee - Pioneer League
Xavier, Ohio - Big East (FCS conference)
California Baptist - Big Sky (football only)

For the "new" conferences:
America East - Albany, Maine, Monmouth (football only), New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Stony Brook, Vermont
Atlantic 10 - Dayton (upgrades from Pioneer League), George Washington, Rhode Island, Richmond, Saint Bonaventure, Saint Joseph's, Saint Louis
Big East - Butler (updgrades from Pioneer League), Creighton, DePaul, Marquette, Providence, Saint John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, Xavier
Big West - Cal Poly, Fullerton State, Long Beach State, Northridge State, UC-Riverside, UC-Santa Barbara, UC Davis
MAAC (non-scholarship) - Canisius, Fairfield, Iona, Manhattan, Niagara, Rider, Siena
West Coast (non-scholarship) - Gonzaga, Loyola Marymount, Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland, Saint Mary's, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Clara

I applaud you for this!: bow:

(04-22-2017 09:51 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  I am going to prune David's list to schools that are currently in Division I:



American University - Patriot League
Little Rock - Sun Belt
Boston U. - Patriot League
Bradley - Pioneer League
Fullerton State - Big West
Long Beach State - Big West
Northridge State - Big West
Cal.-Riverside - Big West
Cal.-Santa Barbara - Big West
Canisius - MAAC
College of Charleston - CAA
Creighton - Big East
Denver - Pioneer League
DePaul - Big East
Detroit - Pioneer League
Drexel - CAA
Evansville - Pioneer League
Fairfield - MAAC
George Washington - Atlantic 10
Gonzaga - West Coast
High Point - Big South
Hofstra - CAA
Illinois-Chicago - Pioneer League
Iona - MAAC
La Salle - Pioneer League
Long Island - Northeast
Loyola Marymount - West Coast
Loyola-Chicago - Pioneer League
Loyola-Maryland - Patriot League
Manhattan - MAAC
Marquette - Big East
Maryland-Eastern Shore
Mount Saint Mary's
Niagara - Pioneer League
UNC-Asheville - Big South
Pacific - West Coast
Pepperdine - West Coast
Portland - West Coast
Providence - Big East
Rider - MAAC
Saint Bonaventure - Atlantic 10
St. Francis NY - Northeast
St. John's NY - Big East
Saint Joseph's - Atlantic 10
Saint Louis - Atlantic 10
St. Mary's, California - West Coast
Saint Peter's - MAAC
U. of San Francisco - West Coast
Santa Clara - West Coast
Seton Hall - Big East (FCS conference)
Siena - MAAC
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi - Southland
UTA - Sun Belt
UTRGV - WAC
Vermont - America East (split from CAA)
Wichita State - MVFC
Milwaukee - Pioneer League
Xavier, Ohio - Big East (FCS conference)
California Baptist - Big Sky (football only)

For the "new" conferences:
America East - Albany, Maine, Monmouth (football only), New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Stony Brook, Vermont
Atlantic 10 - Dayton (upgrades from Pioneer League), George Washington, Rhode Island, Richmond, Saint Bonaventure, Saint Joseph's, Saint Louis
Big East - Butler (updgrades from Pioneer League), Creighton, DePaul, Marquette, Providence, Saint John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, Xavier
Big West - Cal Poly, Fullerton State, Long Beach State, Northridge State, UC-Riverside, UC-Santa Barbara, UC Davis
MAAC (non-scholarship) - Canisius, Fairfield, Iona, Manhattan, Niagara, Rider, Siena
West Coast (non-scholarship) - Gonzaga, Loyola Marymount, Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland, Saint Mary's, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Clara

Great stab at what would have been an impossible task. Aligning schools along with the rest of their other sports works for pretty much everyone until you get to a couple of outliers -- the Big East, the CAA, a football-only Yankee Conference.

So much has happened over the last 50 years that it would be nearly impossible to tell, and a lot of recent history could have been changed if more schools had football. Take the northeast as an example: would the Eastern 8 and Big East had formed differently if football had been considered? How would the Big East have worked football in and where would Syracuse, Pitt and Boston College have landed? Would the Big East be a top flight FCS scholarship playing conference with Georgetown, St. John's, Marquette and Villanova, who all have different aspirations for football? Would the Big West have just downgraded to FCS instead of dropping football?

Although the OP just did a Wikipedia dump into a thread, there are a lot of considerations here. It would make a better essay (or Sports Management thesis) than message board pondering.

(04-22-2017 09:00 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 12:44 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  This is about schools who used to have football or who downgraded football?

Which conference they should go into today if they did not dropped or downgraded?


American University dropped 1941
Little Rock 1955
Boston U.
Bradley
Fullerton State
Long Beach State
Northridge State
Cal.-Riverside
Cal.-Santa Barbara
Canisius
Centenary LA
College of Charleston 1923
Creighton
Denver
DePaul
Detroit
Drexel
Evansville
Fairfield
George Washington
Gonzaga
High Point
Hofstra
Illinois-Chicago
Iona
La Salle
Long Island
Loyola Marymount
Loyola-Chicago
Loyola-Maryland
Manhattan
Marquette
Maryland-Eastern Shore
Mount Saint Mary's
City College of New York
NYU
Niagara
UNC-Asheville
Pacific
Pepperdine
Portland
Providence
Rider
Saint Bonaventure
St. Francis NY
St. Johns NY
Saint Joseph's
Saint Louis
St. Mary's, California
Saint Peter's
U. of San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
Siena
Texas A&M-Corpus Christie
UTA
UTRGV
Vermont
Wichita State
Milwaukee
Xavier, Ohio
Alaska-Fairbanks
University of Baltimore former D1
Bradley
Brooklyn
California Baptist
CalTech
California State- Los Angeles
Cal-San Diego
Cameron
Colorado College
University of District Columbia
Fairleigh Dickinson University
Haskell Indian Nations University
Lake Superior State University
Morris Brown College about to close. School have less than 100 student enrolled.
University of Nebraska Omaha
University of North Georgia
Oakland University
Oklahoma City University
Phillips University now closed was a former SWC member
Saint Leo University
San Francisco State University
Sonoma State University
University of Tampa
Texas Wesleyan University would reinstate their football team this fall, formally played as a major college.
Case Western Reserve University now in D3
Western Washington University
Washburn was in MVC
West Texas A&M was in MVC
Sewanee
Trinity Texas
Southwestern Texas
Washington MO
Grinnell
Washington and Lee
Johns Hopkins
Carnegie Mellon
Bentley
Assumption
Colorado Mines
Regis
Metro State
Western State
American International College
Merrimack College
Northern Michigan University was a member of a D1 for all sports with Youngstown State and some MAC members from Michigan.
Michigan Technological University
Wayne State University
Eastern New Mexico University
Adelphi University
Le Moyne College
Mercy College
Winston–Salem State University
Cedarville University
Mercyhurst University
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Erskine College
Angelo State University
Texas A&M University–Kingsville
Texas A&M University–Commerce
University of Charleston
Shepherd University
Birmingham–Southern College
California Lutheran University
Chapman University
Claremont–Mudd–Scripps three small colleges combined their football to form one team. ClareMont, Harvey Mudd and Scripps
University of La Verne
Occidental College
Pomona College and Pitzer College to form Pomona Pitzer
University of Redlands
Whittier College
The California D3 schools in that conference used to played against UCLA.
Trinity College Conn.
United States Coast Guard Academy
Wesleyan University
Catholic University of America
Gallaudet University
University of Chicago
Eureka College
Illinois College
Illinois Wesleyan University
Knox College
Lake Forest College Was asked to be co-founders of the Big 10.
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Coe College
Cornell College Iowa
Centre College
Thomas More College
Louisiana College
Mississippi College
Bates College
Bowdoin College
Colby College
Husson University
Maine Maritime Academy
Salisbury University
Amherst College
University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Massachusetts Maritime Academy
Springfield College
Wheaton College
Williams College
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester State University
Adrian College
Alma College
Hope College
Kalamazoo College
Olivet College
Gustavus Adolphus College
Hamline University
University of St. Thomas
Plymouth State University
Rowan University
Buffalo State College
Hartwick College[
Hobart
Ithaca College
Cortland State
New York Maritime
RPI
Merchant Marines
Utica College
Guilford College
Methodist University
Capital University
Heidelberg University
Oberlin College
College of Wooster
George Fox University
Linfield College
Pacific University Oregon
Willamette University
Albright College
Carnegie Mellon University
Dickinson College
Franklin & Marshall College[
Gettysburg College
Grove City College
Muhlenberg College
Swarthmore College
Ursinus College
Washington & Jefferson College
Salve Regina University
Maryville College
Rhodes College
Austin College
Sul Ross State University
Southwestern
Hardin-Simmons
Norwich University
Bridgewater College
Hampden–Sydney College
Randolph–Macon College
Roanoke College
Shenandoah University
Washington and Lee University
Pacific Lutheran University
University of Puget Sound
Whitman College
Carthage College
University of Wisconsin–La Crosse
University of Wisconsin–Oshkosh
University of Wisconsin–Whitewater
College of Idaho
Indiana Wesleyan University
Baker University
Friends University
Georgetown College
University of the Cumberlands
Union College
Union, Tenn.
Cumberland University
West Virginia University Institute of Technology
Wentworth Military Academy and College
Marion Military Institute
Georgia Military College
Mississippi Delta Community College
New Mexico Military Institute


These were all used to be D1 or considered major programs at one time. Were would they be now today?

Where's Carlisle? Jim Thorpe played there!

Did not add schools that shut down between 1900 and 1930. They did not have enough history in college sports.

David, even military camps fielded teams that played at what we would call the D1 level today. Carlisle was an institution for Native Americans. One that for which Jim Thorpe played. I made the illustration to show just how incomplete these lists are, but also to show that in the 30's and 40's there was no snobbery per se regarding college football associations, in fact due to the Army camps scheduling college teams, they didn't even have to be teams that were associated with colleges and universities. If you could field a team of young men roughly the same age and play a full schedule of games (about 6 or 7 in those days) you could play anyone, just like Carlisle, and more important to your query you didn't have to be in a conference at all.

The biggest losers for not having football are....

Long Beach State
Cal State Fullerton
Pacific
UTA
Wichita State

Pacific, LBSU and CSUF are stuck in obscurity and will continue to be moving forward. UTA got a lifeline with the Sun Belt and have drastically changed their profile. Now that they have climbed out of lost and found, they will add Football before going back. Wichita State was fortunate enough to hire Mark Turgeon and then Marshall, bringing basketball back to national prominence. Without that stroke of luck/genius and the citizens of Wichita backing the Shox with $, we would still be an also ran in the Valley and very similar to the Cali schools. Oddly enough, we were still able to land in the conference we belong in, one with many former peer schools and rivals. Much like UTA, we will bring back football if it is required to stay with this group. We are not going back....

Had Long Beach State, Cal State Fullerton, UC Santa Barbara (FCS/1-AA level), and Pacific not dropped football, then the Big West would look very different today. There is a good chance San Jose State, Utah State, Fresno State, and New Mexico State would not have left, and Hawaii would also be in that conference. UNLV for sure would have moved on regardless. Boise State would have passed through I suspect, and Nevada would have come in at some point and stuck as the 10th FB school. UC Irvine was a Basketball school even back then. Somebody would have been the 12th Basketball only school. UOP probably would have dropped football anyway, it proved impossible for small private schools to play by the 1990s.

The dropping of Football by UOP, LBS and CSF pretty much forced UNLV, Fresno State, then SJSU and Hawaii out of the Big West and into the WAC by 1996. That might not have happened. Long Beach dropping was the most disappointing at the time, they had more resources and should have been secure. They would be a monster today given their LA location.

Agreed about LBSU, a "Boise" type team there would be insane.

In the exact opposite of this thread, one of if not the biggest loser for having a football program that is historically awful is New Mexico. If they had an ECU/BYU type program they would be a slam dunk for either the PAC or Big XII.