(05-27-2017 05:42 PM)sctvman Wrote:  This isn't just a problem with him. This happens in all sports now with our culture. Players sign up for the coach, not for the program. CofC's women's basketball coach a few years ago let to go to Georgetown after two seasons. Not only did she leave, but all of her assistant coaches followed her, along with two or three recruits. Now she is at Delaware.

IMO a recruit is a different situation as they haven't been part of the team yet. Taking players from your former schools active roster, the best player nonetheless is just Bush League. I hope it works out for CJ, but I don't see how playing second fiddle at a second rate Acc school is better than staying at Uncw and setting records. Anyways even though it honestly doesn't make sense for CJ my angst is with Keatts

(05-27-2017 05:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 12:52 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Seemed like it was gonna happen all along and visiting other schools was a mere formality.

I don't wish bad things upon him, but don't wish him success either. That kinda goes for him and Keatts.

I'm more pissed at Keatts complete BUSH LEAGUE, to steal the best player from the school he left. F him I hope he continues to be the red headed step child in the Acc! I will follow through on my word too and go to a game sit behind the bench and heckle the hell out of him!

Just a heads up-they don't mind kicking people out at NCSU basketball games. It is a real no-no and Keatts is not doing the next right thing which tells me he never has .

"The key for me was loyalty and family."

That's what Bryce told ESPN's Goodman.

That's actually kinda comical considering nobody forced him to leave UNCW.

(05-27-2017 06:30 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 05:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 12:52 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Seemed like it was gonna happen all along and visiting other schools was a mere formality.

I don't wish bad things upon him, but don't wish him success either. That kinda goes for him and Keatts.

I'm more pissed at Keatts complete BUSH LEAGUE, to steal the best player from the school he left. F him I hope he continues to be the red headed step child in the Acc! I will follow through on my word too and go to a game sit behind the bench and heckle the hell out of him!

Just a heads up-they don't mind kicking people out at NCSU basketball games. It is a real no-no and Keatts is not doing the next right thing which tells me he never has .

If it happens, it happens I'm really not buying the ticket to watch shittay basketball anyways! I won't cross the line but we know he can be Bush League so it wouldn't surprise me

(05-27-2017 06:53 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  "The key for me was loyalty and family."

That's what Bryce told ESPN's Goodman.

That's actually kinda comical considering nobody forced him to leave UNCW.

Yeah, that's a joke, loyalty my a$$! I'm the salty Ex I know this and I fully own it :) haha

(05-27-2017 06:30 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Just a heads up-they don't mind kicking people out at NCSU basketball games. It is a real no-no and Keatts is not doing the next right thing which tells me he never has .

I'm sorry but how is following the coach that recruited you the wrong thing?

Look at Chuck....bet there were many times this season he wished he had left when he had the chance

When a new regime comes in there is no guarantees for the player so why is it wrong for the player to do what's best for them?

It sucks to lose your coach and then one of your best players but you gotta not burn any bridges and realize thiss business not personal

(05-27-2017 07:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 06:30 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Just a heads up-they don't mind kicking people out at NCSU basketball games. It is a real no-no and Keatts is not doing the next right thing which tells me he never has .

I'm sorry but how is following the coach that recruited you the wrong thing?

Look at Chuck....bet there were many times this season he wished he had left when he had the chance

When a new regime comes in there is no guarantees for the player so why is it wrong for the player to do what's best for them?

It sucks to lose your coach and then one of your best players but you gotta not burn any bridges and realize thiss business not personal

I think he wasn't referring to Bryce there but to Keatts.

Your argument makes great sense from Bryce's perspective, however it does seem that UNCW never attempted to burn bridges with Keatts but he didn't reciprocate. It was clear from day one he had been in discussions with NC State to leave for a while (prob before our regular season had ended). Then he signs are best active player. Add all that up and I can see easily what Mullet is saying.

Let it go folks. The best way for CJ to improve his game and improve his chances at the next level is to play with and against better competition. The extra year to get stronger and figure out how to shoot free throws won't hurt him. I suspect he'd have been looking to transfer even if Keatts had stayed. I wish him the best and am moving on.

(05-27-2017 07:47 PM)seehawk83 Wrote:  Let it go folks. The best way for CJ to improve his game and improve his chances at the next level is to play with and against better competition. The extra year to get stronger and figure out how to shoot free throws won't hurt him. I suspect he'd have been looking to transfer even if Keatts had stayed. I wish him the best and am moving on.

Don't kid yourself Keatts is here he's here. He turned down programs in way better shape than State to go there.

(05-27-2017 07:57 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:47 PM)seehawk83 Wrote:  Let it go folks. The best way for CJ to improve his game and improve his chances at the next level is to play with and against better competition. The extra year to get stronger and figure out how to shoot free throws won't hurt him. I suspect he'd have been looking to transfer even if Keatts had stayed. I wish him the best and am moving on.

Don't kid yourself Keatts is here he's here. He turned down programs in way better shape than State to go there.

That doesn't mean he wouldn't have been looking around if Keatts stayed. He had plenty of opportunities once he made it know he wanted to transfer.

Who is this "CJ Bryce" you speak of, and how does he affect our program going forward?

Bryce looked at other schools for one reason(on the advice of Keatts, i'm sure)...credibility. It's one thing for Bryce to follow Keatts from UNCW as a good CAA caliber player. It's another for NC State to GET Bryce over South Carolina and Gonzaga. As though they took him from them.

(05-28-2017 07:10 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Bryce looked at other schools for one reason(on the advice of Keatts, i'm sure)...credibility. It's one thing for Bryce to follow Keatts from UNCW as a good CAA caliber player. It's another for NC State to GET Bryce over South Carolina and Gonzaga. As though they took him from them.

Absolutely.

Although it makes that South Carolina uniform Instagram post a little more weird now.

(05-27-2017 07:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 06:30 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Just a heads up-they don't mind kicking people out at NCSU basketball games. It is a real no-no and Keatts is not doing the next right thing which tells me he never has .

I'm sorry but how is following the coach that recruited you the wrong thing?

Look at Chuck....bet there were many times this season he wished he had left when he had the chance

When a new regime comes in there is no guarantees for the player so why is it wrong for the player to do what's best for them?

It sucks to lose your coach and then one of your best players but you gotta not burn any bridges and realize thiss business not personal

It's all about Keatts and doing the right thing by the school that gave you a shot at being a head coach. I have no problem with the player. Good player -and should be ok in the ACC. The coach however shows a real lack of character but it should not surprise anyone. Do the next right thing is not how he operates.

(05-28-2017 10:42 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 06:30 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Just a heads up-they don't mind kicking people out at NCSU basketball games. It is a real no-no and Keatts is not doing the next right thing which tells me he never has .

I'm sorry but how is following the coach that recruited you the wrong thing?

Look at Chuck....bet there were many times this season he wished he had left when he had the chance

When a new regime comes in there is no guarantees for the player so why is it wrong for the player to do what's best for them?

It sucks to lose your coach and then one of your best players but you gotta not burn any bridges and realize thiss business not personal

It's all about Keatts and doing the right thing by the school that gave you a shot at being a head coach. I have no problem with the player. Good player -and should be ok in the ACC. The coach however shows a real lack of character but it should not surprise anyone. Do the next right thing is not how he operates.

I understand that sentiment but how do we know Keatts was recruiting Bryce to leave and not Bryce who initiated things. As fans we don't really know what is going on behind the scenes

That's on CJ and his decision to leave and not Keatts. He's a big boy. If he wants to waste a year of his life, that's on him. If he feels that NCSU is a better academic fit for his major (business), that's something else. And, of course, if he simply felt that he wouldn't be the focus of the team at UNCW due to a "perceived style" that has more discipline on both ends.

If you're not all in, you're all out. Time to move on. Will I pull for Kevin and CJ do to well? Maybe, maybe not. This wasn't about UNCW, this was about the money period. And, you can't blame Kevin for that. It's harder to win at State than UNCW and he's got a real challenge.

BTW...Kevin brought in a 6'5" SG/WF yesterday from Utah one day after CJ transfers there. Hopefully they can play together? Welcome to the BIGS....

(05-28-2017 12:21 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  That's on CJ and his decision to leave and not Keatts. He's a big boy. If he wants to waste a year of his life, that's on him. If he feels that NCSU is a better academic fit for his major (business), that's something else. And, of course, if he simply felt that he wouldn't be the focus of the team at UNCW due to a "perceived style" that has more discipline on both ends.

If you're not all in, you're all out. Time to move on. Will I pull for Kevin and CJ do to well? Maybe, maybe not. This wasn't about UNCW, this was about the money period. And, you can't blame Kevin for that. It's harder to win at State than UNCW and he's got a real challenge.

BTW...Kevin brought in a 6'5" SG/WF yesterday from Utah one day after CJ transfers there. Hopefully they can play together? Welcome to the BIGS....

Nobody blames him for taking the money, people blame him for breaking the golden rule and recruiting a former player away from the school he left. ZERO Respect for the university that actually gave him his shot. I hope he goes 0fer in the Acc!

What is this golden rule you speak of? Brownell took two. One rising sophmore and a incoming recruit. And one especially was a key to Wright State's success.

(05-28-2017 04:09 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  What is this golden rule you speak of? Brownell took two. One rising sophmore and a incoming recruit. And one especially was a key to Wright State's success.

I know he took a recruit, which I don't have a problem with. If he took a player of the caliber of CJ pretty sure I'd remember. Sorry you don't have to agree but I wish Keatts would have shown a bit more respect for the university that gave him his shot.

(05-28-2017 05:43 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 04:09 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  What is this golden rule you speak of? Brownell took two. One rising sophmore and a incoming recruit. And one especially was a key to Wright State's success.

I know he took a recruit, which I don't have a problem with. If he took a player of the caliber of CJ pretty sure I'd remember. Sorry you don't have to agree but I wish Keatts would have shown a bit more respect for the university that gave him his shot.

I don't like it, but I refuse to be bitter about it. Keatts got us out of the gutter. I'm more concerned about not falling back into it. Our best bet is to get behind McGrath and support his efforts to keep us moving in the right direction.