(02-01-2017 05:10 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  "In what has become the norm for the program, Marshall has two of its newcomers ranked as four-star prospects and 11 more as three-stars by ESPN.com, Rivals.com, 247Sports.com or Scout.com - or some combination of the four."

http://www.herdzone.com/sports/m-footbl/...17aaa.html

How many will be eligible to play this fall?

(02-01-2017 05:58 PM)zharkins Wrote:  The last 5 recruiting classes at...
WKU = 7, 8, 6, 11, and 6.
Marshall = 3, 1, 1, 1, and 1.

Maybe rankings mean something at a high P5 level, but at this level, it is meaningless.

That's complete horsechit. Marshall may have had a down year in '16 but prior to that they were a top program in CUSA since we both joined the conference. There are exceptions, like FAU who couldn't win despite solid classes under Partridge but in general recruiting absolutely matters, tbh.

Hopefully FAU, UTSA, and FIU can start to turn things around with these improved recruiting classes. Just note that 247's listing of FIU's commits is all messed up. FIU might drop another spot once it is corrected as we didn't sign all the players that 247 has listed. Nonetheless, it was FIU's best class in a few years and I look forward to seeing what Butch can do with a full year to recruit.

I think many other C-USA teams signed some quality players as well and I look forward to watching the conference get better

Here's the past 3 years records:

WKU: 31-10 (19-5)
Marshall 26-13 (15-9)
La. Tech: 27-15 (19-5)
MTSU: 21-17 (16-8)
ODU: 21-16 (14-10)
USM: 19-20 (12-12)
Rice: 16-21 (10-14)
UTEP: 16-22 (10-14)
UTSA: 13-24 (11-13)
FIU: 13-23 (10-14)
UNT: 10-27 (6-18)
FAU: 9-27 (7-17)
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UAB: 6-6 (4-4) - 1 year
Charlotte: 6-18 (3-13) - 2 years


TBH, I wonder why the Texas and Florida schools have been struggling so mightly in football and MBB. MBB CUSA standings have been similar.

So Miss gets late 3 star addition, and Alabama's Gatorade Player of the year, WR Jaylond Adams

(02-01-2017 07:52 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So Miss gets late 3 star addition, and Alabama's Gatorade Player of the year, WR Jaylond Adams

What? He picked Troy at his signing day ceremony. You're telling me he flipped since then? Lol

https://twitter.com/garyestwick/status/8...8407990272

(02-01-2017 08:02 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 07:52 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So Miss gets late 3 star addition, and Alabama's Gatorade Player of the year, WR Jaylond Adams

What? He picked Troy at his signing day ceremony. You're telling me he flipped since then? Lol

https://twitter.com/garyestwick/status/8...8407990272

His principal is a troy grad and was in his ear. His girlfriend is going to troy.
He signed a loi with troy. However MAMA would not sign it. She would only sign a letter for him to come to Hattiesburg.

Mom vs Vajayjay??

(02-01-2017 08:05 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:02 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 07:52 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So Miss gets late 3 star addition, and Alabama's Gatorade Player of the year, WR Jaylond Adams

What? He picked Troy at his signing day ceremony. You're telling me he flipped since then? Lol

https://twitter.com/garyestwick/status/8...8407990272

His principal is a troy grad and was in his ear. His girlfriend is going to troy.
He signed a loi with troy. However MAMA would not sign it. She would only sign a letter for him to come to Hattiesburg.

Mom vs Vajayjay??

Well that's confusing. He was Troy's late add. His mom was all for him going to Troy. And there is articles of him picking Troy and video of him picking Troy and signing his LOI with family there. I'm not sure how he could've gotten out of his LOI that quickly.

This has been our best recruiting year in a while. Size, speed, athleticism, smarts. 29 kids and only a few were JUCOs.

(02-01-2017 08:12 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:05 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:02 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 07:52 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So Miss gets late 3 star addition, and Alabama's Gatorade Player of the year, WR Jaylond Adams

What? He picked Troy at his signing day ceremony. You're telling me he flipped since then? Lol

https://twitter.com/garyestwick/status/8...8407990272

His principal is a troy grad and was in his ear. His girlfriend is going to troy.
He signed a loi with troy. However MAMA would not sign it. She would only sign a letter for him to come to Hattiesburg.

Mom vs Vajayjay??

Well that's confusing. He was Troy's late add. His mom was all for him going to Troy. And there is articles of him picking Troy and video of him picking Troy and signing his LOI with family there. I'm not sure how he could've gotten out of his LOI that quickly.

The mom didnt sign it. It was never valid.

(02-01-2017 07:41 PM)Fish Wrote:  Hopefully FAU, UTSA, and FIU can start to turn things around with these improved recruiting classes. Just note that 247's listing of FIU's commits is all messed up. FIU might drop another spot once it is corrected as we didn't sign all the players that 247 has listed. Nonetheless, it was FIU's best class in a few years and I look forward to seeing what Butch can do with a full year to recruit.

I think many other C-USA teams signed some quality players as well and I look forward to watching the conference get better

UTSA already has. We doubled our win total last year, and I see no way we don't finish at least 7-5 and head to another bowl next year.

(02-01-2017 08:21 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 07:41 PM)Fish Wrote:  Hopefully FAU, UTSA, and FIU can start to turn things around with these improved recruiting classes. Just note that 247's listing of FIU's commits is all messed up. FIU might drop another spot once it is corrected as we didn't sign all the players that 247 has listed. Nonetheless, it was FIU's best class in a few years and I look forward to seeing what Butch can do with a full year to recruit.

I think many other C-USA teams signed some quality players as well and I look forward to watching the conference get better

UTSA already has. We doubled our win total last year, and I see no way we don't finish at least 7-5 and head to another bowl next year.

Yeah, I see you guys competing for the west division regularly very soon.

(02-01-2017 08:44 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:21 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 07:41 PM)Fish Wrote:  Hopefully FAU, UTSA, and FIU can start to turn things around with these improved recruiting classes. Just note that 247's listing of FIU's commits is all messed up. FIU might drop another spot once it is corrected as we didn't sign all the players that 247 has listed. Nonetheless, it was FIU's best class in a few years and I look forward to seeing what Butch can do with a full year to recruit.

I think many other C-USA teams signed some quality players as well and I look forward to watching the conference get better

UTSA already has. We doubled our win total last year, and I see no way we don't finish at least 7-5 and head to another bowl next year.

Yeah, I see you guys competing for the west division regularly very soon.

Provided we can hang on to our coaching staff. lol

(02-01-2017 08:46 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:44 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:21 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 07:41 PM)Fish Wrote:  Hopefully FAU, UTSA, and FIU can start to turn things around with these improved recruiting classes. Just note that 247's listing of FIU's commits is all messed up. FIU might drop another spot once it is corrected as we didn't sign all the players that 247 has listed. Nonetheless, it was FIU's best class in a few years and I look forward to seeing what Butch can do with a full year to recruit.

I think many other C-USA teams signed some quality players as well and I look forward to watching the conference get better

UTSA already has. We doubled our win total last year, and I see no way we don't finish at least 7-5 and head to another bowl next year.

Yeah, I see you guys competing for the west division regularly very soon.

Provided we can hang on to our coaching staff. lol

You won't.

Not with them recruiting like this. And that's not hating. It's a fact of life down here. No biggie. Just hire another one. I watched that beatdown ya'll put on Middle though and came away very impressed. I fully expect ya'll to contend solidly from here on out. You have the ship pointed in the right direction. Something catastrophic would have to happen to put ya'll back at the bottom.

(02-01-2017 04:39 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  Both FAU and UTSA are new to the conference and are in two of the nicest cities the conference has to offer.
It makes difference.

THat has nothing to do with it...Bowling Green and Ruston are two of the smallest cities in CUSA, however both have had huge success last few years in this conference....Not on paper in Feb., but on Dec. 5th when WKU was holding the trophy for 2nd season in a rwo.....Its all about getting talent and then once you have talent fitting them into your system and coaching them up to be successful in this conference....Has nothing to do with what city you are in 9 times out of 10...We are all getting similar talent minus a few here and there...Key in college football also is you better have a solid QB, if not you are screwed...

(02-01-2017 09:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 04:39 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  Both FAU and UTSA are new to the conference and are in two of the nicest cities the conference has to offer.
It makes difference.

THat has nothing to do with it...Bowling Green and Ruston are two of the smallest cities in CUSA, however both have had huge success last few years in this conference....Not on paper in Feb., but on Dec. 5th when WKU was holding the trophy for 2nd season in a rwo.....Its all about getting talent and then once you have talent fitting them into your system and coaching them up to be successful in this conference....Has nothing to do with what city you are in 9 times out of 10...We are all getting similar talent minus a few here and there...Key in college football also is you better have a solid QB, if not you are screwed...

What he said ^^^^^^
The programs at the top of this league and others are located in small traditional college towns. bowling green, Ruston, Hattiesburg and Huntington.
It comes from being consistent year in and year out.

(02-01-2017 08:16 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:12 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:05 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 08:02 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 07:52 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  So Miss gets late 3 star addition, and Alabama's Gatorade Player of the year, WR Jaylond Adams

What? He picked Troy at his signing day ceremony. You're telling me he flipped since then? Lol

https://twitter.com/garyestwick/status/8...8407990272

His principal is a troy grad and was in his ear. His girlfriend is going to troy.
He signed a loi with troy. However MAMA would not sign it. She would only sign a letter for him to come to Hattiesburg.

Mom vs Vajayjay??

Well that's confusing. He was Troy's late add. His mom was all for him going to Troy. And there is articles of him picking Troy and video of him picking Troy and signing his LOI with family there. I'm not sure how he could've gotten out of his LOI that quickly.

The mom didnt sign it. It was never valid.

That story is a possible true story, but it still only a rumor and will probably never be fully explained. What we do know is that Adams never faxed his LOI to Troy and this evening he did fax it to Southern Miss.

(02-01-2017 09:51 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  Well FAU has won the day.

Just remember....everyone is a champion on National Signing Day.

(02-01-2017 05:58 PM)zharkins Wrote:  The last 5 recruiting classes at...
WKU = 7, 8, 6, 11, and 6.
Marshall = 3, 1, 1, 1, and 1.

Maybe rankings mean something at a high P5 level, but at this level, it is meaningless.

That's a great post. Very poignant. Every year we go through this same ole dance.......Marshall fans insist that they signed the best class, and the bottom 3rd of the conference always claims they just signed a national championship class.

(02-01-2017 07:13 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 05:58 PM)zharkins Wrote:  The last 5 recruiting classes at...
WKU = 7, 8, 6, 11, and 6.
Marshall = 3, 1, 1, 1, and 1.

Maybe rankings mean something at a high P5 level, but at this level, it is meaningless.

That's complete horsechit. Marshall may have had a down year in '16 but prior to that they were a top program in CUSA since we both joined the conference. There are exceptions, like FAU who couldn't win despite solid classes under Partridge but in general recruiting absolutely matters, tbh.

Partridge was a heck of a recruiter. But he couldn't coach. It all has to be on coaching. A better coach would not have the team continually blow 2-TD leads for three consecutive years.