(01-11-2017 06:47 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 04:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 02:47 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 05:34 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  WKU had a great season and should be proud but pump the breaks a little bit. The 8th place team in the Sun Belt blew out a SDSU team that finished ranked. Tennessee escaped a Sun Belt team in OT. The national champions beat a Sun Belt team by 6.

I would love to see App play WKU. One of the top G5 offenses vs one of the top G5 defenses, would be a great game. WKU might win but I can assure you it wouldn't be an epic blowout. Hopefully we can play in the future cause I respect your program a lot.

Cheers on a great season

I saw the first half of the Miami game, A team with athletic QB and receivers would have field day with that app defense. It would look like the Miami game 20+ win

Last time I checked Tennessee has some pretty good athletes on offense...

Tennessee is the 62nd passing offense. Unlike Dobbs, Kaaya could throw downfield and absolutely destroyed App's backfield. 45-10 in Boone.

WKU and Tech would do the same, and App doesn't have the offense to keep up. App doesnt have a CB that could cover Carlos Henderson or Trent Taylor and WKU's offense would be up by 21 on App before they could even score.

That's 62nd against an SEC schedule. What kind of numbers would their all SEC QB put up against CUSA defenses?

We can go back and forth all day pulling up individual games. App looked bad against Miami. I seem to recall LT getting blown out against a pretty mediocre Southern Miss team....

I'm not making some ridiculous boast about App football here. Really can't believe so many people take offense to "App vs WKU would be a good game". Now it's devolved into LT fans saying App couldn't compete against them. Come on man.

WKU and LT (WKU especially) have really impressive offenses. Unlike anything App saw in the Sun Belt... On the other hand, App had the number 1 scoring D in the G5 and finished top 10 in the country in rushing yards, also unlike anything you would come across in CUSA.

Didn't mean to sidetrack this thread. Congrats to WKU and LT on great seasons.

You can take any comment from DAWG with a grain of salt. He's salty about C-USA falling so far behind and is especially salty about the Sun Belt actually being ranked higher than them.

You watch one half of one game and come to a conclusion that because an offense is explosive, they will have the same results. Toledo's offense was explosive and in my opinion has very similar athletes to what Tech has. This creates a situation where your offense is your best defense, and from what I could tell, Louisiana Tech and WKU don't necessarily play very good defense (though WKU is better).

App finished ranked higher than Louisiana Tech, game over.

(01-11-2017 07:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 05:34 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-04-2017 09:28 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  I don't think we'll finish in the top 25 for all the reasons listed.

I do think we were a top 25 team this year. As for the Appy State posters that can't stay out of here we would have destroyed any of the Sun Belt teams this year or last.

And it wouldn't have been close. I have no idea what the future holds for us because of a complete changeover in coaching with not a single person left from the previous staff. I do know we would have rolled anyone from that conference this year. Or last year.

I'll be shocked but extremely happy if we did end up ranked. It's quite an honor for a school like us.

WKU had a great season and should be proud but pump the breaks a little bit. The 8th place team in the Sun Belt blew out a SDSU team that finished ranked. Tennessee escaped a Sun Belt team in OT. The national champions beat a Sun Belt team by 6.

I would love to see App play WKU. One of the top G5 offenses vs one of the top G5 defenses, would be a great game. WKU might win but I can assure you it wouldn't be an epic blowout. Hopefully we can play in the future cause I respect your program a lot.

Cheers on a great season

I saw the first half of the Miami game, A team with athletic QB and receivers would have field day with that app defense. It would look like the Miami game 20+ win

You watch one half of one game out of 13 and came to that conclusion?

ODU had an athletic QB and was lucky to score a TD. Tennessee had an athletic QB and only scored one TD in regulation. App also gave up less than 100 points in 8 conference games.

Once again, you make bombastic comments without having the slightest clue. Miami had a plan to run a hurry up offense which App was clearly not prepared for as Mark Richt didn't call plays at Georgia. The defense wasn't ready and blew too many assignments. Throw in the fact that your #1 RB (with 5,000 career yards) goes down in the first quarter after breaking a run that would've put him over 100 yards on just 8 carries and you have a demoralized bunch.

At any rate, your hatred and lack of objectivity when discussing Sun Belt school's is laughable considering the Sun Belt finished ranked ahead of both the MAC and C-USA.

Why are you posting about App on a thread about WKU in the TOP 25, on the CUSA board none the less. Do you have the need to interject App to feel validated? Stick to the topic, state your opinion and move on.

(01-11-2017 07:29 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 06:47 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 04:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 02:47 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  I saw the first half of the Miami game, A team with athletic QB and receivers would have field day with that app defense. It would look like the Miami game 20+ win

Last time I checked Tennessee has some pretty good athletes on offense...

Tennessee is the 62nd passing offense. Unlike Dobbs, Kaaya could throw downfield and absolutely destroyed App's backfield. 45-10 in Boone.

WKU and Tech would do the same, and App doesn't have the offense to keep up. App doesnt have a CB that could cover Carlos Henderson or Trent Taylor and WKU's offense would be up by 21 on App before they could even score.

That's 62nd against an SEC schedule. What kind of numbers would their all SEC QB put up against CUSA defenses?

We can go back and forth all day pulling up individual games. App looked bad against Miami. I seem to recall LT getting blown out against a pretty mediocre Southern Miss team....

I'm not making some ridiculous boast about App football here. Really can't believe so many people take offense to "App vs WKU would be a good game". Now it's devolved into LT fans saying App couldn't compete against them. Come on man.

WKU and LT (WKU especially) have really impressive offenses. Unlike anything App saw in the Sun Belt... On the other hand, App had the number 1 scoring D in the G5 and finished top 10 in the country in rushing yards, also unlike anything you would come across in CUSA.

Didn't mean to sidetrack this thread. Congrats to WKU and LT on great seasons.

You can take any comment from DAWG with a grain of salt. He's salty about C-USA falling so far behind and is especially salty about the Sun Belt actually being ranked higher than them.

You watch one half of one game and come to a conclusion that because an offense is explosive, they will have the same results. Toledo's offense was explosive and in my opinion has very similar athletes to what Tech has. This creates a situation where your offense is your best defense, and from what I could tell, Louisiana Tech and WKU don't necessarily play very good defense (though WKU is better).

App finished ranked higher than Louisiana Tech, game over.

WKU had the #2 rush defense in the country this season and the #1 total offense in the country this season.... before anybody says...... but that was against CUSA teams..... WKU held Alabama to a season low rushing. If App state depended on rushing to beat WKU, it would be a BAD BAD day for App. The only way you beat WKU this year was to throw over the top, and thats what La Tech and Alabama both did. WKU got much better pass defense to end the season after getting players healthy, and it showed in the championship game against La Tech

(01-11-2017 07:43 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:29 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 06:47 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 04:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 02:47 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  Last time I checked Tennessee has some pretty good athletes on offense...

Tennessee is the 62nd passing offense. Unlike Dobbs, Kaaya could throw downfield and absolutely destroyed App's backfield. 45-10 in Boone.

WKU and Tech would do the same, and App doesn't have the offense to keep up. App doesnt have a CB that could cover Carlos Henderson or Trent Taylor and WKU's offense would be up by 21 on App before they could even score.

That's 62nd against an SEC schedule. What kind of numbers would their all SEC QB put up against CUSA defenses?

We can go back and forth all day pulling up individual games. App looked bad against Miami. I seem to recall LT getting blown out against a pretty mediocre Southern Miss team....

I'm not making some ridiculous boast about App football here. Really can't believe so many people take offense to "App vs WKU would be a good game". Now it's devolved into LT fans saying App couldn't compete against them. Come on man.

WKU and LT (WKU especially) have really impressive offenses. Unlike anything App saw in the Sun Belt... On the other hand, App had the number 1 scoring D in the G5 and finished top 10 in the country in rushing yards, also unlike anything you would come across in CUSA.

Didn't mean to sidetrack this thread. Congrats to WKU and LT on great seasons.

You can take any comment from DAWG with a grain of salt. He's salty about C-USA falling so far behind and is especially salty about the Sun Belt actually being ranked higher than them.

You watch one half of one game and come to a conclusion that because an offense is explosive, they will have the same results. Toledo's offense was explosive and in my opinion has very similar athletes to what Tech has. This creates a situation where your offense is your best defense, and from what I could tell, Louisiana Tech and WKU don't necessarily play very good defense (though WKU is better).

App finished ranked higher than Louisiana Tech, game over.

WKU had the #2 rush defense in the country this season and the #1 total offense in the country this season.... before anybody says...... but that was against CUSA teams..... WKU held Alabama to a season low rushing. If App state depended on rushing to beat WKU, it would be a BAD BAD day for App. The only way you beat WKU this year was to throw over the top, and thats what La Tech and Alabama both did. WKU got much better pass defense to end the season after getting players healthy, and it showed in the championship game against La Tech

This tid bit is what makes the comment from DAWG about watching one half of one game early in the season asinine. As if the 31-7 throttling of a 9-3 C-USA team the week before didn't matter. WKU is a good team and has had a solid program since joining C-USA (which I find ironic in the context of how most perceive the college football landscape). The only issue I have is with erroneous statements made after one game in which we all saw the same thing.

I have no doubt WKU could beat App and would likely be favored however rational conclusions reached by irrational means still present an irrational argument.

(01-11-2017 07:33 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 05:34 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-04-2017 09:28 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  I don't think we'll finish in the top 25 for all the reasons listed.

I do think we were a top 25 team this year. As for the Appy State posters that can't stay out of here we would have destroyed any of the Sun Belt teams this year or last.

And it wouldn't have been close. I have no idea what the future holds for us because of a complete changeover in coaching with not a single person left from the previous staff. I do know we would have rolled anyone from that conference this year. Or last year.

I'll be shocked but extremely happy if we did end up ranked. It's quite an honor for a school like us.

WKU had a great season and should be proud but pump the breaks a little bit. The 8th place team in the Sun Belt blew out a SDSU team that finished ranked. Tennessee escaped a Sun Belt team in OT. The national champions beat a Sun Belt team by 6.

I would love to see App play WKU. One of the top G5 offenses vs one of the top G5 defenses, would be a great game. WKU might win but I can assure you it wouldn't be an epic blowout. Hopefully we can play in the future cause I respect your program a lot.

Cheers on a great season

I saw the first half of the Miami game, A team with athletic QB and receivers would have field day with that app defense. It would look like the Miami game 20+ win

You watch one half of one game out of 13 and came to that conclusion?

ODU had an athletic QB and was lucky to score a TD. Tennessee had an athletic QB and only scored one TD in regulation. App also gave up less than 100 points in 8 conference games.

Once again, you make bombastic comments without having the slightest clue. Miami had a plan to run a hurry up offense which App was clearly not prepared for as Mark Richt didn't call plays at Georgia. The defense wasn't ready and blew too many assignments. Throw in the fact that your #1 RB (with 5,000 career yards) goes down in the first quarter after breaking a run that would've put him over 100 yards on just 8 carries and you have a demoralized bunch.

At any rate, your hatred and lack of objectivity when discussing Sun Belt school's is laughable considering the Sun Belt finished ranked ahead of both the MAC and C-USA.

Why are you posting about App on a thread about WKU in the TOP 25, on the CUSA board none the less. Do you have the need to interject App to feel validated? Stick to the topic, state your opinion and move on.

The comments were made back to Dawg who interjected App. I posted when the thread was first made that WKU would likely only receive votes as there wasn't enough space for them to be in the Top 25 considering they play in the worst conference in FBS.

(01-11-2017 08:00 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:43 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:29 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 06:47 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 04:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Tennessee is the 62nd passing offense. Unlike Dobbs, Kaaya could throw downfield and absolutely destroyed App's backfield. 45-10 in Boone.

WKU and Tech would do the same, and App doesn't have the offense to keep up. App doesnt have a CB that could cover Carlos Henderson or Trent Taylor and WKU's offense would be up by 21 on App before they could even score.

That's 62nd against an SEC schedule. What kind of numbers would their all SEC QB put up against CUSA defenses?

We can go back and forth all day pulling up individual games. App looked bad against Miami. I seem to recall LT getting blown out against a pretty mediocre Southern Miss team....

I'm not making some ridiculous boast about App football here. Really can't believe so many people take offense to "App vs WKU would be a good game". Now it's devolved into LT fans saying App couldn't compete against them. Come on man.

WKU and LT (WKU especially) have really impressive offenses. Unlike anything App saw in the Sun Belt... On the other hand, App had the number 1 scoring D in the G5 and finished top 10 in the country in rushing yards, also unlike anything you would come across in CUSA.

Didn't mean to sidetrack this thread. Congrats to WKU and LT on great seasons.

You can take any comment from DAWG with a grain of salt. He's salty about C-USA falling so far behind and is especially salty about the Sun Belt actually being ranked higher than them.

You watch one half of one game and come to a conclusion that because an offense is explosive, they will have the same results. Toledo's offense was explosive and in my opinion has very similar athletes to what Tech has. This creates a situation where your offense is your best defense, and from what I could tell, Louisiana Tech and WKU don't necessarily play very good defense (though WKU is better).

App finished ranked higher than Louisiana Tech, game over.

WKU had the #2 rush defense in the country this season and the #1 total offense in the country this season.... before anybody says...... but that was against CUSA teams..... WKU held Alabama to a season low rushing. If App state depended on rushing to beat WKU, it would be a BAD BAD day for App. The only way you beat WKU this year was to throw over the top, and thats what La Tech and Alabama both did. WKU got much better pass defense to end the season after getting players healthy, and it showed in the championship game against La Tech

This tid bit is what makes the comment from DAWG about watching one half of one game early in the season asinine. As if the 31-7 throttling of a 9-3 C-USA team the week before didn't matter. WKU is a good team and has had a solid program since joining C-USA (which I find ironic in the context of how most perceive the college football landscape). The only issue I have is with erroneous statements made after one game in which we all saw the same thing.

I have no doubt WKU could beat App and would likely be favored however rational conclusions reached by irrational means still present an irrational argument.

WKU didnt just getting better when we went to CUSA, we had won 7 ,7,8 games before the move if im not mistaken . The move to CUSA improved WKU's recruitment immediately and it shows but we had been improving each season over the past 7 years

WKU rush defense was better with the return of McCollum. Tech still had over 500 yards passing, over 200 for Carlos and over 100 for Taylor

(01-10-2017 10:14 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 10:10 AM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Answer: No.

WKU received 32 votes behind Nebraska, Georgia Tech, and Kansas State.

Ranked G5 teams: SDSU (#25), USF (#19), WMU (#15)

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll

Surprised WMU was ranked that high.

It's probably cause they got a bunch of votes that were supposed to go to WKU

(01-11-2017 11:13 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 10:14 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 10:10 AM)LouisvilleHilltopper Wrote:  Answer: No.

WKU received 32 votes behind Nebraska, Georgia Tech, and Kansas State.

Ranked G5 teams: SDSU (#25), USF (#19), WMU (#15)

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll

Surprised WMU was ranked that high.

It's probably cause they got a bunch of votes that were supposed to go to WKU

Lol. That would suck. Funny that that happened to them this year

(01-11-2017 08:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:33 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 05:34 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  WKU had a great season and should be proud but pump the breaks a little bit. The 8th place team in the Sun Belt blew out a SDSU team that finished ranked. Tennessee escaped a Sun Belt team in OT. The national champions beat a Sun Belt team by 6.

I would love to see App play WKU. One of the top G5 offenses vs one of the top G5 defenses, would be a great game. WKU might win but I can assure you it wouldn't be an epic blowout. Hopefully we can play in the future cause I respect your program a lot.

Cheers on a great season

I saw the first half of the Miami game, A team with athletic QB and receivers would have field day with that app defense. It would look like the Miami game 20+ win

You watch one half of one game out of 13 and came to that conclusion?

ODU had an athletic QB and was lucky to score a TD. Tennessee had an athletic QB and only scored one TD in regulation. App also gave up less than 100 points in 8 conference games.

Once again, you make bombastic comments without having the slightest clue. Miami had a plan to run a hurry up offense which App was clearly not prepared for as Mark Richt didn't call plays at Georgia. The defense wasn't ready and blew too many assignments. Throw in the fact that your #1 RB (with 5,000 career yards) goes down in the first quarter after breaking a run that would've put him over 100 yards on just 8 carries and you have a demoralized bunch.

At any rate, your hatred and lack of objectivity when discussing Sun Belt school's is laughable considering the Sun Belt finished ranked ahead of both the MAC and C-USA.

Why are you posting about App on a thread about WKU in the TOP 25, on the CUSA board none the less. Do you have the need to interject App to feel validated? Stick to the topic, state your opinion and move on.

The comments were made back to Dawg who interjected App. I posted when the thread was first made that WKU would likely only receive votes as there wasn't enough space for them to be in the Top 25 considering they play in the worst conference in FBS.

Nice passive aggressive shot you took! You come over here bragging the first time Sun Belt has a descent season in a long time expecting us to sit back and not argue or take up for our conference? What kind of response did you think you would have?

Congrats on having a really really good year for the Sun Belt, however its one year....We had the best season in 2014, American last year and this past season Sun Belt...As you can see it changes hands quite often....The MAC and American laid down in bowl season while the Sun Belt did well and CUSA continues to get it done in bowl season when the most people are watching you....I am more then pleased to know 2 things when it comes to bowl season, CUSA more times then not will beat down any team from American and the Sun Belt champs will continue to get curb stomped by our 3rd or 4th team most seasons....One year does not catapult SUn belt football, in perception you will continue to still be last in the pecking order....At least CUSA has teams that usually finish ranked in last poll and if not ranked pretty close to be ranked like WKU this year...Sun Belt still has not had a team finish the season ranked ever...

This was the first time the sunbelt had a good season since wku left correct?

(01-12-2017 09:05 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  This was the first time the sunbelt had a good season since wku left correct?

Yep and now they are in the "P6"

(01-12-2017 09:18 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:05 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  This was the first time the sunbelt had a good season since wku left correct?

Yep and now they are in the "P6"

That means CUSA is 11-3 against a "Power" conference!

(01-12-2017 08:21 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 08:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:33 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  I saw the first half of the Miami game, A team with athletic QB and receivers would have field day with that app defense. It would look like the Miami game 20+ win

You watch one half of one game out of 13 and came to that conclusion?

ODU had an athletic QB and was lucky to score a TD. Tennessee had an athletic QB and only scored one TD in regulation. App also gave up less than 100 points in 8 conference games.

Once again, you make bombastic comments without having the slightest clue. Miami had a plan to run a hurry up offense which App was clearly not prepared for as Mark Richt didn't call plays at Georgia. The defense wasn't ready and blew too many assignments. Throw in the fact that your #1 RB (with 5,000 career yards) goes down in the first quarter after breaking a run that would've put him over 100 yards on just 8 carries and you have a demoralized bunch.

At any rate, your hatred and lack of objectivity when discussing Sun Belt school's is laughable considering the Sun Belt finished ranked ahead of both the MAC and C-USA.

Why are you posting about App on a thread about WKU in the TOP 25, on the CUSA board none the less. Do you have the need to interject App to feel validated? Stick to the topic, state your opinion and move on.

The comments were made back to Dawg who interjected App. I posted when the thread was first made that WKU would likely only receive votes as there wasn't enough space for them to be in the Top 25 considering they play in the worst conference in FBS.

Nice passive aggressive shot you took! You come over here bragging the first time Sun Belt has a descent season in a long time expecting us to sit back and not argue or take up for our conference? What kind of response did you think you would have?

Congrats on having a really really good year for the Sun Belt, however its one year....We had the best season in 2014, American last year and this past season Sun Belt...As you can see it changes hands quite often....The MAC and American laid down in bowl season while the Sun Belt did well and CUSA continues to get it done in bowl season when the most people are watching you....I am more then pleased to know 2 things when it comes to bowl season, CUSA more times then not will beat down any team from American and the Sun Belt champs will continue to get curb stomped by our 3rd or 4th team most seasons....One year does not catapult SUn belt football, in perception you will continue to still be last in the pecking order....At least CUSA has teams that usually finish ranked in last poll and if not ranked pretty close to be ranked like WKU this year...Sun Belt still has not had a team finish the season ranked ever...

WKU will be a favorite for C-USA and likely a top NY6 contender entering next season. There is a lot of, for lack of a better word, patriotism among conferences and by taking a shot at C-USA it was perceived as a passive aggressive comment. If C-USA was the third best conference this season, WKU would've been ranked, no doubt.

San Diego State took a loss (woodshed) to South Alabama who won 2 games in the Sun Belt and still managed to finish the season ranked. This was due to a combination of things however the Sun Belt was perceived by those who actually follow statistical analysis instead of subjective qualitative analysis as a better conference THIS year.

As it stands now; Troy, Arkansas State (who will probably not win OOC until their bowl game again), App State, Georgia Southern, Louisiana, and possibly Idaho are all in position to keep the Sun Belt above C-USA for another season.

For what its worth, I wish MTSU and WKU were still in the Sun Belt as the East division would be far more entertaining and the western division may actually have some competition.

(01-12-2017 09:05 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  This was the first time the sunbelt had a good season since wku left correct?

To be clear, the only reason the Sun Belt conversation was brought up was because Dawgxas decided to say that Tech and WKU would beat App State. It then deteriorated into a conference pissing match which then further deteriorated into App bashing.

It's all a moot point really because the results for 2016 are final and App, Troy, nor Arkansas State played WKU or Louisiana Tech this season.

P.S. Arkansas State would likely lose both because it is an out of conference game. USA would win both because it's an out of conference game.

The TipTop25.com writer, (probably the best ranking guy) booted SDSU out of his fixed AP Poll.