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Thornwell reinstated.

Won @ UGA tonight.
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Sweet!
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And the indefinite suspension for Allen at Duke lasted 1 game.
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(01-04-2017 11:06 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Sweet!

Doesn't help us at all. The committee will look at their games without Thornwell. If there is a significant difference in metrics without him playing (and there will be), our win will be discounted. With our NC schedule, going to be tough to be on bubble anyway.
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(01-04-2017 11:15 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:06 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Sweet!

Doesn't help us at all. The committee will look at their games without Thornwell. If there is a significant difference in metrics without him playing (and there will be), our win will be discounted. With our NC schedule, going to be tough to be on bubble anyway.

Yes it does. It eventually helps our RPI. As long as we do well in conf which is not impossible, there's no reason we can't be on the bubble.
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Great point 1016. And I've heard for so many years about injuries factored into the Tourney Bracket, but it seems that it has really never had a big impact. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I bet it really only helps the blue bloods of the NCAA.
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Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.
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(01-04-2017 11:20 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:15 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:06 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Sweet!

Doesn't help us at all. The committee will look at their games without Thornwell. If there is a significant difference in metrics without him playing (and there will be), our win will be discounted. With our NC schedule, going to be tough to be on bubble anyway.

Yes it does. It eventually helps our RPI. As long as we do well in conf which is not impossible, there's no reason we can't be on the bubble.

(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Ok, thanks! I'll just stop watching and discussing until the AAC Conference Tourney.
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(01-04-2017 11:51 PM)slaphappydawg Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:20 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:15 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:06 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Sweet!

Doesn't help us at all. The committee will look at their games without Thornwell. If there is a significant difference in metrics without him playing (and there will be), our win will be discounted. With our NC schedule, going to be tough to be on bubble anyway.

Yes it does. It eventually helps our RPI. As long as we do well in conf which is not impossible, there's no reason we can't be on the bubble.

(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Ok, thanks! I'll just stop watching and discussing until the AAC Conference Tourney.

Hey, still follow the progress of the team and yes put your eggs in the tournament basket.

Just don't worry about the fates of OU, USCe, or Monmouth with the hopes that their performances will have a bearing on Memphis.
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(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Every fan acts differently. Not everyone thinks like you Saluki. Thanks for telling the rest of us how to be a fan.
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(01-04-2017 11:11 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  And the indefinite suspension for Allen at Duke lasted 1 game.

I saw that. Hard to fathom.
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(01-05-2017 04:33 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:11 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  And the indefinite suspension for Allen at Duke lasted 1 game.

I saw that. Hard to fathom.

Not really. Should be hard to fathom, but not where the Dukies are concerned. Just as well. Allen will get his punishment from opponents' fan bases.
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To get to the bubble of the bubble...regardless of South Carolina, team basically must win the next four games heading to Houston. A really down UConn team at home followed by two very winnable road games, then USF back at home. That would put them at 14-4 headed to what is now a 12-3 Houston. That game is followed by a home game against a similar UCF team. That is a lot to ask, but somewhat realistic, and having zero bad losses and then accumulating some more top 100 if not possibly top 50 wins would bring the team to bubble consideration...at 15-5 or 16-4. Lose one of these next four and even midway at large would be basically out.
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(01-05-2017 12:34 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Every fan acts differently. Not everyone thinks like you Saluki. Thanks for telling the rest of us how to be a fan.

Good lord.

Not telling you, or anyone, HOW to be a fan.

I just wonder what level of basketball (or sports) knowledge some here have.

To think that Memphis is in any reasonable position for an at large is just silly. Memphis' current RPI is 115.

RPI forecast (which has been accurate over the years I have used it) shows that if Memphis finishes the season 16-1 (a .03% chance) they will have an RPI of 36.

Finish the season 14-2 (.28% chance) and Memphis will have an RPI of 45 (already on the bubble)

13-3 (1.52% chance) gets a 51 rpi and 12-4 (5% chance) is a 60 rpi (out).

The highest probability listed is Memphis going 20-11 (24% chance) for a final RPI of 101.

Basically, Memphis would have to go at least 13-3, then probably make it to the AAC final to have a shot at the bubble.

You can apologize now.
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Just do like the Packers and win out
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(01-05-2017 09:41 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-05-2017 12:34 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Every fan acts differently. Not everyone thinks like you Saluki. Thanks for telling the rest of us how to be a fan.

Good lord.

Not telling you, or anyone, HOW to be a fan.

I just wonder what level of basketball (or sports) knowledge some here have.

To think that Memphis is in any reasonable position for an at large is just silly. Memphis' current RPI is 115.

RPI forecast (which has been accurate over the years I have used it) shows that if Memphis finishes the season 16-1 (a .03% chance) they will have an RPI of 36.

Finish the season 14-2 (.28% chance) and Memphis will have an RPI of 45 (already on the bubble)

13-3 (1.52% chance) gets a 51 rpi and 12-4 (5% chance) is a 60 rpi (out).

The highest probability listed is Memphis going 20-11 (24% chance) for a final RPI of 101.

Basically, Memphis would have to go at least 13-3, then probably make it to the AAC final to have a shot at the bubble.

You can apologize now.

There you go again demeaning people's basketball knowledge. Until Memphis loses 3-4 more games, there's always a shot. I expect to win every game moving forward. Will it happen - probably not, but as a fan that's what we root for. There isn't a single team on the schedule that's unbeatable.

IMO there's a small shot at being on the bubble. You yourself did the math to prove that's the case even with 3 more losses. The likelihood is low but all I said was there's a chance. But you went ahead and did the unnecessary math which frankly all of us aware of. You start of saying you don't want to tell anyone how to be a FAN but then decide to proceed on demeaning folks' knowledge. Well done indeed. SMDH
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(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Zero percent? I don't think we'll get an at large, but I'm willing to make a friendly wager if you are willing to lay odds on a virtual guaranteed winner.

What are fair odds on a virtual 0% chance? 50:1?
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(01-05-2017 04:33 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:11 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  And the indefinite suspension for Allen at Duke lasted 1 game.

I saw that. Hard to fathom.

Yeah that was crap, lost some respect for Coach K over that
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(01-05-2017 11:23 AM)3601 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Zero percent? I don't think we'll get an at large, but I'm willing to make a friendly wager if you are willing to lay odds on a virtual guaranteed winner.

What are fair odds on a virtual 0% chance? 50:1?

Sorry, 1.83% chance Memphis finishes the season 14-3 or better.
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(01-05-2017 09:41 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-05-2017 12:34 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 11:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord. There is close to a zero percent probability Memphis gets an at large. Quit acting like we need to be worrying about opponent's wins and losses.

Every fan acts differently. Not everyone thinks like you Saluki. Thanks for telling the rest of us how to be a fan.

Good lord.

Not telling you, or anyone, HOW to be a fan.

I just wonder what level of basketball (or sports) knowledge some here have.

To think that Memphis is in any reasonable position for an at large is just silly. Memphis' current RPI is 115.

RPI forecast (which has been accurate over the years I have used it) shows that if Memphis finishes the season 16-1 (a .03% chance) they will have an RPI of 36.

Finish the season 14-2 (.28% chance) and Memphis will have an RPI of 45 (already on the bubble)

13-3 (1.52% chance) gets a 51 rpi and 12-4 (5% chance) is a 60 rpi (out).

The highest probability listed is Memphis going 20-11 (24% chance) for a final RPI of 101.

Basically, Memphis would have to go at least 13-3, then probably make it to the AAC final to have a shot at the bubble.

You can apologize now.

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