(03-03-2017 01:07 PM)dave416 Wrote:  WVU is always going to be a little overrated on the advanced metrics as long as they play their current style (and have at least a good team). In the non-conf they are simply going to lay waste to lesser foes with their press, so where a normal very good team might win by 15-30, they are often going to win by 30-50 by virtue of the constant TOs and wearing the lesser opponents out. All of that gives extra juice to their metrics that really doesn't translate quite as well against better competition.

vs. Mount St. Mary's - 21 TOs (28.4%) - 87-59 Final
vs. Miss Valley St. - 26 TOs (30.6%) - 107-66 Final
vs. New Hampshire - 34 TOs (43.6%) - 100-41 Final
vs. Manhattan - 40 TOs (46%) - 108-61 Final
vs. Western Carolina - 34 TOs (45.3%) - 90-37 Final
vs. VMI - 22 TOs (31.4%) - 90-55 Final
vs. UMKC - 27 TOs (34.6%) - 112-67 Final
vs. Radford - 29 TOs (40.3%) - 84-57 Final
vs. Northern Kentucky - 25 TOs (32.9%) - 92-61 Final

So that's over a quarter of their schedule against teams that are going to be overcome by the relentless press (ranging from mediocre teams to very bad) - all won by at least 27 points. That is going to skew things favorably for them, but these games don't tell you much about how they it's going to go against evenly matched teams.

Maybe, but these systems are pretty good about adjusting for blowouts against bad teams. WVU has been a really "unlucky" team according to the metrics. That tends to happen when you lose 3 OT games and other really close games. I know people like to believe winning close games late is a skill and I don't believe it's all luck, but most numbers suggest there is a lot of luck to it as well. One only need to look at some of UC's close losses the last couple years to get how easy it would have been to go the other way without UC being really any better as a team ( UC missing dunk, losing a quadruple OT game when 75 footer tied it in 3OT, losing on dunk .1 too late, losing an OT game where another team hit a 80foot shot...etc). I hate playing against teams with good metrics who have seemed to have bad luck in close games...I love playing against teams with bad metrics who had great luck in close games (Maryland was like that a couple years ago).

(03-03-2017 12:32 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(03-03-2017 12:25 PM)dsquare Wrote:  I like how he has Iowa St. a seed ahead of us. Does he realized we beat them on their court?

Who? Palm has Iowa State as a 7 and Lunardi as a 6

I was wrong. There is a recap by seed at the bottom of the article which i thought was from the article, but it's one fan's comment/seeds. Interesting though as someone also posted the question to him. However, they also had thought URI beat us at the Shoe.

Ran the RPI Wizard and if we win out (@UCONN, Tulsa, Houston, SMU) shows RPI of 11. That should be good for 4 seed at minimum.

(03-03-2017 04:33 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  Ran the RPI Wizard and if we win out (@UCONN, Tulsa, Houston, SMU) shows RPI of 11. That should be good for 4 seed at minimum.

Did you account for: "NCAA seeding all about money" ?

(03-03-2017 03:47 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(03-03-2017 12:32 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(03-03-2017 12:25 PM)dsquare Wrote:  I like how he has Iowa St. a seed ahead of us. Does he realized we beat them on their court?

Who? Palm has Iowa State as a 7 and Lunardi as a 6

I was wrong. There is a recap by seed at the bottom of the article which i thought was from the article, but it's one fan's comment/seeds. Interesting though as someone also posted the question to him. However, they also had thought URI beat us at the Shoe.

We were probably the home team on a neutral court. Mistake is that he did not know it was a neutral court.

Press Virginia at half vs ISU up 43-42

As much as I like Huggs we need ISU to win.

Evidently, not gonna happen

Good night ISU.

(03-03-2017 08:34 PM)payday Wrote:  Evidently, not gonna happen

WVU rolling up 15 with 3:32 left

Rotgers ends IL NCAA hopes Groce lost game and likely job. Will Mick be an IL target, or UD Miller?

IN takes out to$u. What's the Matta Thad? Watch them in the NIT

(03-04-2017 02:07 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Rotgers ends IL NCAA hopes Groce lost game and likely job. Will Mick be an IL target, or UD Miller?

IN takes out to$u. What's the Matta Thad? Watch them in the NIT

What's the Matta Thad ? That's great. I always refer to him as " Don't " Matta.

Nothing really Matta,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really Matta,
Nothing really Matta to me.

I think Vandy is going to end up getting in with 15 losses.

Memphis getting booty beat at Moody

(03-04-2017 04:09 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Nothing really Matta,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really Matta,
Nothing really Matta to me.

Bohemian Thadsody

Seton Hall and Butler in a tight one. About 4 minutes to go.

Seton Hall wins a huge one. They should be in.

I wish our guys would put away teams the way SMU does. SMU held a 48-24 lead over Memphis at half. They are on a 19-4 run to open the 2nd half and lead 67-28.

Beatdown at Moody. Dayum.

Miami and Florida State in another tight one.

No way Dook wins at UNC. Book it!

(03-04-2017 05:18 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I wish our guys would put away teams the way SMU does. SMU held a 48-24 lead over Memphis at half. They are on a 19-4 run to open the 2nd half and lead 67-28.

Okay, to be fair, this game has to be an aberration... damn.