(11-22-2016 10:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:41 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:35 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:31 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  So basically then as far as we know he hasn't done anything other than give interviews.

Not at all.. but you'll have to cull through the press releases and interviews yourself. Do your own homework to understand the initiatives he's been working on.

I did here you go.

https://ucf.rivals.com/news/aresco-ameri...tain-bowls

Aresco promised to keep the liberty and Russell athletic bowls and he failed. He promised to keep the pinstripe bowl and he failed. He promised we would stay at the table and he failed. He promised to create a new bowl for us and he failed. So far i have seen nothing but promises in interviews but no results.

In 2013??

Yup he promised all that in 2013 and guess what he failed to deliver. So ill ask again what has he done since making those promises other than give interviews?

Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

(11-22-2016 10:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:41 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:35 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Not at all.. but you'll have to cull through the press releases and interviews yourself. Do your own homework to understand the initiatives he's been working on.

I did here you go.

https://ucf.rivals.com/news/aresco-ameri...tain-bowls

Aresco promised to keep the liberty and Russell athletic bowls and he failed. He promised to keep the pinstripe bowl and he failed. He promised we would stay at the table and he failed. He promised to create a new bowl for us and he failed. So far i have seen nothing but promises in interviews but no results.

In 2013??

Yup he promised all that in 2013 and guess what he failed to deliver. So ill ask again what has he done since making those promises other than give interviews?

Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

(11-22-2016 10:58 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:41 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I did here you go.

https://ucf.rivals.com/news/aresco-ameri...tain-bowls

Aresco promised to keep the liberty and Russell athletic bowls and he failed. He promised to keep the pinstripe bowl and he failed. He promised we would stay at the table and he failed. He promised to create a new bowl for us and he failed. So far i have seen nothing but promises in interviews but no results.

In 2013??

Yup he promised all that in 2013 and guess what he failed to deliver. So ill ask again what has he done since making those promises other than give interviews?

Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

You don't know chit.
NAVY did not agree "later that year."
They accepted their Big East invite when Houston did. Prior to the ND, Rutgers, Louisville, and C7 departures.
You're clueless about this conference. Your sign up date strongly suggests that you are a sock puppet.

(11-22-2016 11:25 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:58 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  In 2013??

Yup he promised all that in 2013 and guess what he failed to deliver. So ill ask again what has he done since making those promises other than give interviews?

Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

You don't know chit.
NAVY did not agree "later that year."
They accepted their Big East invite when Houston did. Prior to the ND, Rutgers, Louisville, and C7 departures.
You're clueless about this conference. Your sign up date strongly suggests that you are a sock puppet.

Are you going to continue to dodge my question or are you going to man up and answer it? What has aresco done for this conference since 2013?

(11-22-2016 10:58 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:41 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I did here you go.

https://ucf.rivals.com/news/aresco-ameri...tain-bowls

Aresco promised to keep the liberty and Russell athletic bowls and he failed. He promised to keep the pinstripe bowl and he failed. He promised we would stay at the table and he failed. He promised to create a new bowl for us and he failed. So far i have seen nothing but promises in interviews but no results.

In 2013??

Yup he promised all that in 2013 and guess what he failed to deliver. So ill ask again what has he done since making those promises other than give interviews?

Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

So apparently tv espn exposure grew on this league all on its own... Or in other words ESPN decided to provide this league tv exposure just for the hell of it and b/c were beautiful... Got it.

I'll take Aresco over this guy...........

(11-23-2016 12:59 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:58 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:44 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  In 2013??

Yup he promised all that in 2013 and guess what he failed to deliver. So ill ask again what has he done since making those promises other than give interviews?

Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

So apparently tv espn exposure grew on this league all on its own... Or in other words ESPN decided to provide this league tv exposure just for the hell of it and b/c were beautiful... Got it.

No it grew because the teams performed amazingly. Pretty sure aresco doesn't play football or have any control over the teams. Do you think the tv exposer would have happened if our league played at a cusa level?

Any commissioner can get better tv exposer when your leagues teams are constantly beating P5 teams. Not to mention the tv contract is was already signed.

So once again ill ask what has aresco done since 2013? BEH says he should get a raise but for what? What has he done? Its the teams out performing the league not aresco.

As far as i can tell aresco has mostly just gotten lucky. If this league had played terribly resulting in bad tv exposer would we blame aresco?

All i have seen from hims is interviews promising things that he failed to deliver. Then more interviews promising to deliver more revenue but until that happens what has he done?

(11-23-2016 01:23 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 12:59 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:58 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Yup he promised all that in 2013 and guess what he failed to deliver. So ill ask again what has he done since making those promises other than give interviews?

Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

So apparently tv espn exposure grew on this league all on its own... Or in other words ESPN decided to provide this league tv exposure just for the hell of it and b/c were beautiful... Got it.

No it grew because the teams performed amazingly. Pretty sure aresco doesn't play football or have any control over the teams. Do you think the tv exposer would have happened if our league played at a cusa level?

Any commissioner can get better tv exposer when your leagues teams are constantly beating P5 teams. Not to mention the tv contract is was already signed.

So once again ill ask what has aresco done since 2013? BEH says he should get a raise but for what? What has he done? Its the teams out performing the league not aresco.

As far as i can tell aresco has mostly just gotten lucky. If this league had played terribly resulting in bad tv exposer would we blame aresco?

All i have seen from hims is interviews promising things that he failed to deliver. Then more interviews promising to deliver more revenue but until that happens what has he done?

Ever heard of Google?!? Here I help you.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w..._9W43oXgZg

"Among the milestones reached in Aresco’s tenure have been the announcement of a conference football championship game for the first time in 2015 and the league’s successful staging of its own postseason bowl game, the Miami Beach Bowl, in 2014.

In the wake of the changes created by college sports realignment, Aresco moved quickly to solidify the conference, leading negotiations that resulted in the most favorable financial terms for the conference’s football schools, after the withdrawal of the non-football-playing schools, as well as the 2013-14 launch of the renamed and rebranded conference.

He simultaneously led the negotiations that resulted in television contracts with ESPN and CBS Sports, which have given the conference unprecedented national exposure and branding with the two industry leaders in sports television. Aresco then quickly and successfully organized the process whereby the conference was renamed the American Athletic Conference – a name that was immediately accepted nationally – and he also oversaw the process that resulted in the conference’s popular graphic identity.

He has also successfully worked with the conference schools to arrive at an equitable distribution of existing revenue for the current and new conference institutions, bringing about a period of cohesiveness that is unprecedented in the league’s history. He has restructured the conference office staff to maximize efficiency and better serve the needs of the membership.

Among his other significant accomplishments on behalf of the American Athletic Conference were the spearheading of expansion efforts, which resulted in the addition of East Carolina, Tulane and Tulsa as of July 1, 2014, and Navy as a football member in 2015; launching The American Digital Network; successful site negotiations for the conference’s men’s and women’s basketball championships; and the launching of a brand marketing campaign."

(11-23-2016 02:27 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 01:23 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 12:59 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:58 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Why don't you ask Obama what he has done other than give interviews. Or ask any public figure what they do at their job other than give interviews?

Seriously, what he was or wasn't able to do when the conference was in shambles and had no record together (and a threat of poaching over its head) is irrelevant. This conference was a build from Day 1. Navy wasn't even in the conference yet at the time of that article.

You're an idiot.

Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

So apparently tv espn exposure grew on this league all on its own... Or in other words ESPN decided to provide this league tv exposure just for the hell of it and b/c were beautiful... Got it.

No it grew because the teams performed amazingly. Pretty sure aresco doesn't play football or have any control over the teams. Do you think the tv exposer would have happened if our league played at a cusa level?

Any commissioner can get better tv exposer when your leagues teams are constantly beating P5 teams. Not to mention the tv contract is was already signed.

So once again ill ask what has aresco done since 2013? BEH says he should get a raise but for what? What has he done? Its the teams out performing the league not aresco.

As far as i can tell aresco has mostly just gotten lucky. If this league had played terribly resulting in bad tv exposer would we blame aresco?

All i have seen from hims is interviews promising things that he failed to deliver. Then more interviews promising to deliver more revenue but until that happens what has he done?

Ever heard of Google?!? Here I help you.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w..._9W43oXgZg

"Among the milestones reached in Aresco’s tenure have been the announcement of a conference football championship game for the first time in 2015 and the league’s successful staging of its own postseason bowl game, the Miami Beach Bowl, in 2014.

In the wake of the changes created by college sports realignment, Aresco moved quickly to solidify the conference, leading negotiations that resulted in the most favorable financial terms for the conference’s football schools, after the withdrawal of the non-football-playing schools, as well as the 2013-14 launch of the renamed and rebranded conference.

He simultaneously led the negotiations that resulted in television contracts with ESPN and CBS Sports, which have given the conference unprecedented national exposure and branding with the two industry leaders in sports television. Aresco then quickly and successfully organized the process whereby the conference was renamed the American Athletic Conference – a name that was immediately accepted nationally – and he also oversaw the process that resulted in the conference’s popular graphic identity.

He has also successfully worked with the conference schools to arrive at an equitable distribution of existing revenue for the current and new conference institutions, bringing about a period of cohesiveness that is unprecedented in the league’s history. He has restructured the conference office staff to maximize efficiency and better serve the needs of the membership.

Among his other significant accomplishments on behalf of the American Athletic Conference were the spearheading of expansion efforts, which resulted in the addition of East Carolina, Tulane and Tulsa as of July 1, 2014, and Navy as a football member in 2015; launching The American Digital Network; successful site negotiations for the conference’s men’s and women’s basketball championships; and the launching of a brand marketing campaign."

1. Having a conference championship is what he was suppose to do when he got hired. If he hadn't eventually added the necessary teams for a conference championship I can guarantee you he would not have been kept as commissioner.

2. Navy had agreed in 2012 to join in 2015, well before 2013. http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...tball-2015

3. The only reason he was able to expand branding was because the conference did well. Once again he is doing what is already expected of him for a conference that is great competitively. If this conference sucked to high heaven do you think he would be very successful selling this conference? Last I checked he doesn't play the sports in this conference are we going to start giving him credit for our schools making his conference look good?

I know people will point to our time in c-usa and say our branding sucked, but that was because we had decided we were ok with a commissioner who didn't give a shiet about the conferences' sucess. In reality our c-usa commissioner at the time should have been fired because he sucked. While it is a breath of fresh air to have a commissioner actually do his job, that doesn't suddenly warrant a raise.

4. You say he created cohesiveness, then how come when the first opportunity to leave came around literally half the conference was attempting to jump ship?

5. Those tv contracts was his way of making his failure to give us a single decent bowl or even retain the decent bowls we had look better. Not to mention the tv contract was signed in 2013, which once again doesn't answer what has he done since then. Lets also not forget our tv contract pays alot less than when we were a power conference. Which by the way he said he was going to maintain and he failed.

6. Lets be honest here, if he didn't get those basketball sites secured do you think he would have kept his job?

7. I would give you the tulsa/ecu thing but he was only doing what he had been hired to do. Once again if he hadn't gotten the conference to twelve he would not have kept his job.

8. Out of everything the aac network is probably the only thing he has done that a typical G5 conference doesn't have.

Remember my question was what has he done since 2013 other than interviews saying how great this conference is that warranted a raise? Most of that you listed he would have been fired if he had not accomplished it, and I know you just got it off the AAC site so I know it's not technically "you" listing these accomplishments.

So to answer my question then the only thing Aresco has done to possibly warrant a raise since 2013 is the creation of the aac network. Because let's be honest our bowls suck. We had good bowls that he promised to keep and failed. But you're going to try and say the miami beach bow is better than the liberty bowl..... ya no.... Everything else he has done is what a good commissioner is supposed to do. You don't get a raise for doing what you're suppose to do you get a raise for going beyond what your suppose to do. If we're being honest every time he has tried to go beyond he has failed.

Let me ask you this, say aresco fails to get any kind of significant raise for the conference what then? Will you be calling for his head? I will also say this Aresco better hope the next TV deal pays a whopping 6 mil a year, because anything less will be a failure and I would not be surprised if he got fired.


Also let me ask this question, if this conference is so great why was literally half the conference looking to jump ship to big 12 literally at the first chance? A conference remind you that is very unstable and everyone pretty much knew that Texas and OU were leaving. For a conference that supposedly has a bright future that is a huge red flag.

So really aresco has not done enough to warrant a raise past the 1.6 mill he is making. Remeber this thread http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-739495.html ya that about sums up my point.

Houston, how do you put up with the guy?

(11-22-2016 09:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:41 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  With the G5 bowl system, making sure the two highest possible rated AAC teams meet in the championship game. Well done. The conference will not lose out on millions with Houston still getting the opportunity to get to the New Years bowl. Mikey Aresco earning his million+ per year. Can probably take a break from all his local radio interviews.

Aresco has zero influence with the P5. However, he does get paid almost like a P5 commissioner so he has to wave his hands and make noise in the press to make us in the AAC forget he is grossly overpaid.

He's doing his job--promoting the league. Every time he mentions P6 and talks about how our teams can compete with anyone he helps us.

Every time ESPN or some media outlet mentions our league and P6 it helps us.

There is no downside to this campaign. P6 and expanding the playoff will only help our chances. We will get more money next TV deal as well.

All we want is a chance to compete with the best teams. We've shown we are capable.

The American is doing their part to grow along with the teams in it. If you went to the AAC championship game you saw they put a lot of pride into it, and took care of every detail at UH's stadium. The p6 stickers at least turn eyeballs even though it might just be an impossible task. There's simply not a clear way to have a seat at the table when the people who established the playoffs, p5, all that never intended on letting you have one. No matter how many peach bowls we win.

Our best bet is when the playoffs expand we get our conf. champion to have an auto bid. That should be where we focus our efforts.

(11-23-2016 09:49 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 09:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:41 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  With the G5 bowl system, making sure the two highest possible rated AAC teams meet in the championship game. Well done. The conference will not lose out on millions with Houston still getting the opportunity to get to the New Years bowl. Mikey Aresco earning his million+ per year. Can probably take a break from all his local radio interviews.

Aresco has zero influence with the P5. However, he does get paid almost like a P5 commissioner so he has to wave his hands and make noise in the press to make us in the AAC forget he is grossly overpaid.

He's doing his job--promoting the league. Every time he mentions P6 and talks about how our teams can compete with anyone he helps us.

Every time ESPN or some media outlet mentions our league and P6 it helps us.

There is no downside to this campaign. P6 and expanding the playoff will only help our chances. We will get more money next TV deal as well.

All we want is a chance to compete with the best teams. We've shown we are capable.

What a guy, very nice of him.

He's making almost as much as every one of our schools make, fortunately he does enough radio interviews to easily pay his $1.6mm+ salary.

As to the original point, I will make it more clear, in all his wisdom he should have made sure our top two rated teams met in the championship game as now we will lose out in millions. But apologize away. It's not his fault right? I mean its not as if he is paid millions to understand the landscape. Luckily we have an amazing set of bowls and a massive TV contract.......and I know Tulane stinks, not my fault.

Aresco is drunk. Alabama would gut all of us like a fish

Lots of over-paid folks in the sports world from players to coaches, ADs & other admin types. But for a conference commissioner would you rather have Aresco at his $1M+ salary or Bob Bowlsby of the BXII @ $2.3M? Answer is obvious......Aresco....enough said.

(11-23-2016 03:32 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:27 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 01:23 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 12:59 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 10:58 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Uhmm he so basically you cant prove you point at all. I just provided evidence that he was not able to stop this conference from getting worse and your response is "your and idiot".

You still keep dodging my question what has he done since then to improve the conference, and dont say add navy. Because navy had already agreed later that year to join the conference in 2015.

So its irrelevant that he was able to accomplish anything at the most critical time in our conference, yet he deserves a raise?

So apparently tv espn exposure grew on this league all on its own... Or in other words ESPN decided to provide this league tv exposure just for the hell of it and b/c were beautiful... Got it.

No it grew because the teams performed amazingly. Pretty sure aresco doesn't play football or have any control over the teams. Do you think the tv exposer would have happened if our league played at a cusa level?

Any commissioner can get better tv exposer when your leagues teams are constantly beating P5 teams. Not to mention the tv contract is was already signed.

So once again ill ask what has aresco done since 2013? BEH says he should get a raise but for what? What has he done? Its the teams out performing the league not aresco.

As far as i can tell aresco has mostly just gotten lucky. If this league had played terribly resulting in bad tv exposer would we blame aresco?

All i have seen from hims is interviews promising things that he failed to deliver. Then more interviews promising to deliver more revenue but until that happens what has he done?

Ever heard of Google?!? Here I help you.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w..._9W43oXgZg

"Among the milestones reached in Aresco’s tenure have been the announcement of a conference football championship game for the first time in 2015 and the league’s successful staging of its own postseason bowl game, the Miami Beach Bowl, in 2014.

In the wake of the changes created by college sports realignment, Aresco moved quickly to solidify the conference, leading negotiations that resulted in the most favorable financial terms for the conference’s football schools, after the withdrawal of the non-football-playing schools, as well as the 2013-14 launch of the renamed and rebranded conference.

He simultaneously led the negotiations that resulted in television contracts with ESPN and CBS Sports, which have given the conference unprecedented national exposure and branding with the two industry leaders in sports television. Aresco then quickly and successfully organized the process whereby the conference was renamed the American Athletic Conference – a name that was immediately accepted nationally – and he also oversaw the process that resulted in the conference’s popular graphic identity.

He has also successfully worked with the conference schools to arrive at an equitable distribution of existing revenue for the current and new conference institutions, bringing about a period of cohesiveness that is unprecedented in the league’s history. He has restructured the conference office staff to maximize efficiency and better serve the needs of the membership.

Among his other significant accomplishments on behalf of the American Athletic Conference were the spearheading of expansion efforts, which resulted in the addition of East Carolina, Tulane and Tulsa as of July 1, 2014, and Navy as a football member in 2015; launching The American Digital Network; successful site negotiations for the conference’s men’s and women’s basketball championships; and the launching of a brand marketing campaign."

1. Having a conference championship is what he was suppose to do when he got hired. If he hadn't eventually added the necessary teams for a conference championship I can guarantee you he would not have been kept as commissioner.

2. Navy had agreed in 2012 to join in 2015, well before 2013. http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...tball-2015

3. The only reason he was able to expand branding was because the conference did well. Once again he is doing what is already expected of him for a conference that is great competitively. If this conference sucked to high heaven do you think he would be very successful selling this conference? Last I checked he doesn't play the sports in this conference are we going to start giving him credit for our schools making his conference look good?

I know people will point to our time in c-usa and say our branding sucked, but that was because we had decided we were ok with a commissioner who didn't give a shiet about the conferences' sucess. In reality our c-usa commissioner at the time should have been fired because he sucked. While it is a breath of fresh air to have a commissioner actually do his job, that doesn't suddenly warrant a raise.

4. You say he created cohesiveness, then how come when the first opportunity to leave came around literally half the conference was attempting to jump ship?

5. Those tv contracts was his way of making his failure to give us a single decent bowl or even retain the decent bowls we had look better. Not to mention the tv contract was signed in 2013, which once again doesn't answer what has he done since then. Lets also not forget our tv contract pays alot less than when we were a power conference. Which by the way he said he was going to maintain and he failed.

6. Lets be honest here, if he didn't get those basketball sites secured do you think he would have kept his job?

7. I would give you the tulsa/ecu thing but he was only doing what he had been hired to do. Once again if he hadn't gotten the conference to twelve he would not have kept his job.

8. Out of everything the aac network is probably the only thing he has done that a typical G5 conference doesn't have.

Remember my question was what has he done since 2013 other than interviews saying how great this conference is that warranted a raise? Most of that you listed he would have been fired if he had not accomplished it, and I know you just got it off the AAC site so I know it's not technically "you" listing these accomplishments.

So to answer my question then the only thing Aresco has done to possibly warrant a raise since 2013 is the creation of the aac network. Because let's be honest our bowls suck. We had good bowls that he promised to keep and failed. But you're going to try and say the miami beach bow is better than the liberty bowl..... ya no.... Everything else he has done is what a good commissioner is supposed to do. You don't get a raise for doing what you're suppose to do you get a raise for going beyond what your suppose to do. If we're being honest every time he has tried to go beyond he has failed.

Let me ask you this, say aresco fails to get any kind of significant raise for the conference what then? Will you be calling for his head? I will also say this Aresco better hope the next TV deal pays a whopping 6 mil a year, because anything less will be a failure and I would not be surprised if he got fired.


Also let me ask this question, if this conference is so great why was literally half the conference looking to jump ship to big 12 literally at the first chance? A conference remind you that is very unstable and everyone pretty much knew that Texas and OU were leaving. For a conference that supposedly has a bright future that is a huge red flag.

So really aresco has not done enough to warrant a raise past the 1.6 mill he is making. Remeber this thread http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-739495.html ya that about sums up my point.

What would you want him to do? Jim Delany could have been our commissioner and we would be where we are. Hell, Slive was the CUSA commissioner for years and he didn't do crap--but you'd think he was the most innovative and most brilliant commissioner on earth when he retired from the SEC job.

Arescos best work was keeping the conference together. His ability to obtain any tv contract at all while the conference was on verge of collapsing and teams like Boise were actually undermining his efforts (Boise was actively shopping thier value as an indy during that time) saved the conference. Not only did he get a contract, he got a contract that provided national coverage that approached the level of Most power conferences.

He has done more than just give interviews.

He got the AAC to start thier own bowl. We are the only conference that currently owns a bowl. That's pretty innovative---and while it ain't much now, I think it's really the only avenue for a non-power conference to land a post season game vs a high selection from a P5. We will have to increase the payout significantly before that can occur---but that's a hell of a lot more likely to happen than expecting an existing bowl to drop a P5 tie in order to take the AAC champ.

He created the AAC Digital Network.

Apparently he, along with our AD's and presidents, have created a strategic plan to upgrade the image and prestige of the AAC to near power conference levels. Haven't seen any other G5 do a darn thing to upgrade their position. (Lol--I hope there's more to this than helmet stickers).

He has negotiated a deal with a streaming entity (Amazon I believe) to stream many of our non-revenue sports providing additional exposure. That supposed to be announced soon.

Yes our bowls suck--but we are the only G5 with multiple bowls featuring P5 opponents. In some years, we have as many as 4 P5 bowl opponents (5 if we get the access bowl).


Is he worth what we are paying him? To date, probably not. But he accepted the job back when we thought we would be earning more and would be a part of the big boy club. His pay was set accordingly.

He is by far the best non-P5 commissioner. If he succeeds in retooling our TV contract and getting us a big raise, then I think he will have been worth it. I tend to think that will eventually happen.

(11-23-2016 01:23 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  [quote='BigHouston' pid='13821308' dateline='1479880793']

No it grew because the teams performed amazingly. Pretty sure aresco doesn't play football or have any control over the teams. Do you think the tv exposer would have happened if our league played at a cusa level?

Any commissioner can get better tv exposer when your leagues teams are constantly beating P5 teams. Not to mention the tv contract is was already signed.

So once again ill ask what has aresco done since 2013? BEH says he should get a raise but for what? What has he done? Its the teams out performing the league not aresco.

As far as i can tell aresco has mostly just gotten lucky. If this league had played terribly resulting in bad tv exposer would we blame aresco?

All i have seen from hims is interviews promising things that he failed to deliver. Then more interviews promising to deliver more revenue but until that happens what has he done?

This is why the MWC has such great TV exposure, since Boise and TCU beat BCS teams all those years.

I have 2 words for you that will make Aresco seem very competent "britton Banowsky" there I said it. Banowsky was to conference commissioners as Larry Porter was to Football or Josh Pastner is to Basketball coaching. He presided over the transformation of a good CUSA into a dumpster fire.

(11-23-2016 10:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Aresco is drunk. Alabama would gut all of us like a fish

Ya, that was a weird angle. None of the P5 teams can even compete with Alabama.

(11-23-2016 11:49 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 03:32 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:27 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 01:23 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 12:59 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  So apparently tv espn exposure grew on this league all on its own... Or in other words ESPN decided to provide this league tv exposure just for the hell of it and b/c were beautiful... Got it.

No it grew because the teams performed amazingly. Pretty sure aresco doesn't play football or have any control over the teams. Do you think the tv exposer would have happened if our league played at a cusa level?

Any commissioner can get better tv exposer when your leagues teams are constantly beating P5 teams. Not to mention the tv contract is was already signed.

So once again ill ask what has aresco done since 2013? BEH says he should get a raise but for what? What has he done? Its the teams out performing the league not aresco.

As far as i can tell aresco has mostly just gotten lucky. If this league had played terribly resulting in bad tv exposer would we blame aresco?

All i have seen from hims is interviews promising things that he failed to deliver. Then more interviews promising to deliver more revenue but until that happens what has he done?

Ever heard of Google?!? Here I help you.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w..._9W43oXgZg

"Among the milestones reached in Aresco’s tenure have been the announcement of a conference football championship game for the first time in 2015 and the league’s successful staging of its own postseason bowl game, the Miami Beach Bowl, in 2014.

In the wake of the changes created by college sports realignment, Aresco moved quickly to solidify the conference, leading negotiations that resulted in the most favorable financial terms for the conference’s football schools, after the withdrawal of the non-football-playing schools, as well as the 2013-14 launch of the renamed and rebranded conference.

He simultaneously led the negotiations that resulted in television contracts with ESPN and CBS Sports, which have given the conference unprecedented national exposure and branding with the two industry leaders in sports television. Aresco then quickly and successfully organized the process whereby the conference was renamed the American Athletic Conference – a name that was immediately accepted nationally – and he also oversaw the process that resulted in the conference’s popular graphic identity.

He has also successfully worked with the conference schools to arrive at an equitable distribution of existing revenue for the current and new conference institutions, bringing about a period of cohesiveness that is unprecedented in the league’s history. He has restructured the conference office staff to maximize efficiency and better serve the needs of the membership.

Among his other significant accomplishments on behalf of the American Athletic Conference were the spearheading of expansion efforts, which resulted in the addition of East Carolina, Tulane and Tulsa as of July 1, 2014, and Navy as a football member in 2015; launching The American Digital Network; successful site negotiations for the conference’s men’s and women’s basketball championships; and the launching of a brand marketing campaign."

1. Having a conference championship is what he was suppose to do when he got hired. If he hadn't eventually added the necessary teams for a conference championship I can guarantee you he would not have been kept as commissioner.

2. Navy had agreed in 2012 to join in 2015, well before 2013. http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...tball-2015

3. The only reason he was able to expand branding was because the conference did well. Once again he is doing what is already expected of him for a conference that is great competitively. If this conference sucked to high heaven do you think he would be very successful selling this conference? Last I checked he doesn't play the sports in this conference are we going to start giving him credit for our schools making his conference look good?

I know people will point to our time in c-usa and say our branding sucked, but that was because we had decided we were ok with a commissioner who didn't give a shiet about the conferences' sucess. In reality our c-usa commissioner at the time should have been fired because he sucked. While it is a breath of fresh air to have a commissioner actually do his job, that doesn't suddenly warrant a raise.

4. You say he created cohesiveness, then how come when the first opportunity to leave came around literally half the conference was attempting to jump ship?

5. Those tv contracts was his way of making his failure to give us a single decent bowl or even retain the decent bowls we had look better. Not to mention the tv contract was signed in 2013, which once again doesn't answer what has he done since then. Lets also not forget our tv contract pays alot less than when we were a power conference. Which by the way he said he was going to maintain and he failed.

6. Lets be honest here, if he didn't get those basketball sites secured do you think he would have kept his job?

7. I would give you the tulsa/ecu thing but he was only doing what he had been hired to do. Once again if he hadn't gotten the conference to twelve he would not have kept his job.

8. Out of everything the aac network is probably the only thing he has done that a typical G5 conference doesn't have.

Remember my question was what has he done since 2013 other than interviews saying how great this conference is that warranted a raise? Most of that you listed he would have been fired if he had not accomplished it, and I know you just got it off the AAC site so I know it's not technically "you" listing these accomplishments.

So to answer my question then the only thing Aresco has done to possibly warrant a raise since 2013 is the creation of the aac network. Because let's be honest our bowls suck. We had good bowls that he promised to keep and failed. But you're going to try and say the miami beach bow is better than the liberty bowl..... ya no.... Everything else he has done is what a good commissioner is supposed to do. You don't get a raise for doing what you're suppose to do you get a raise for going beyond what your suppose to do. If we're being honest every time he has tried to go beyond he has failed.

Let me ask you this, say aresco fails to get any kind of significant raise for the conference what then? Will you be calling for his head? I will also say this Aresco better hope the next TV deal pays a whopping 6 mil a year, because anything less will be a failure and I would not be surprised if he got fired.


Also let me ask this question, if this conference is so great why was literally half the conference looking to jump ship to big 12 literally at the first chance? A conference remind you that is very unstable and everyone pretty much knew that Texas and OU were leaving. For a conference that supposedly has a bright future that is a huge red flag.

So really aresco has not done enough to warrant a raise past the 1.6 mill he is making. Remeber this thread http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-739495.html ya that about sums up my point.

What would you want him to do? Jim Delany could have been our commissioner and we would be where we are. Hell, Slive was the CUSA commissioner for years and he didn't do crap--but you'd think he was the most innovative and most brilliant commissioner on earth when he retired from the SEC job.

Arescos best work was keeping the conference together. His ability to obtain any tv contract at all while the conference was on verge of collapsing and teams like Boise were actually undermining his efforts (Boise was actively shopping thier value as an indy during that time) saved the conference. Not only did he get a contract, he got a contract that provided national coverage that approached the level of Most power conferences.

He has done more than just give interviews.

He got the AAC to start thier own bowl. We are the only conference that currently owns a bowl. That's pretty innovative---and while it ain't much now, I think it's really the only avenue for a non-power conference to land a post season game vs a high selection from a P5. We will have to increase the payout significantly before that can occur---but that's a hell of a lot more likely to happen than expecting an existing bowl to drop a P5 tie in order to take the AAC champ.

He created the AAC Digital Network.

Apparently he, along with our AD's and presidents, have created a strategic plan to upgrade the image and press stage of the AAC to near power conference levels. Haven't seen any other G5 do a darn thing to upgrade their position. (Lol--I hope there's more to this than helmet stickers).

He has negotiated a deal with a streaming entity (Amazon I believe) to stream many of our non-revenue sports providing additional exposure. That supposed to be announced soon.

Yes our bowls suck--but we are the only G5 with multiple bowls featuring P5 opponents. In some years, we have as many as 4 P5 bowl opponents (5 if we get the access bowl).


Is he worth what we are paying him? To date, probably not. But he accepted the job back when we thought we would be earning more and would be a part of the big boy club. His pay was set accordingly.

He is by far the best non-P5 commissioner. If he succeeds in retooling our TV contract and getting us a big raise, then I think he will have been worth it. I tend to think that will eventually happen.

Oh you misunderstand i love aresco. Compared to what we had at c-usa aresco is awesome. Its good to have a commissioner that actually knows what he is doing. But remember the tv contract and bowl were either negotiated in 2013 or earlier. I know aresco did a ton to help the conference stat together in those years, even if he failed to deliver alot of what he promised.

My point was what had he done since then to deserve raise on top the $1.6 he already makes? So far the only answer i have gotten is the creation of a digital network and promises.

Now if he delivers on the amazon streaming and the tv revenue raise, well then hell ya lets give him a raise. But until the we need yo hold our hosers and look at history. Every time he has promised to deliver big he failed so until he does it I'm skeptical. Im also still skeptical that the networks wont screw aresco on the new tv deal.