(11-21-2016 11:38 AM)ultraviolet Wrote: (11-21-2016 10:41 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: I dont care for the trophy. Are we rivals? yes. Our fan bases hate each other and that will increase the longer we play and the more meaningful those games become. But I still think we dont need a trophy for that.
This year's game is between two teams with winning records. The year we finally play with the conference east title for the taking it will be a fantastic atmosphere.
Why do y'all hate each other? Both fan bases are just alike. In fact, to hate on the other is a form of self loathing. Maybe a statue of Dr. Phil ought to be the trophy.
I will give it a stab.
UCF had Football starting in 79' whereas USF didn't start football till 97'
UCF became Division 1 or 1A in 96' whereas USF didn't transition till 2001.
UCF was probably at their peak up to that point in the Dante Culpepper Era back in 98'. However, USF and their coach refused to play UCF in their infancy. This created a lot of animosity between the two fan bases.
To add fuel to the fire,Leavitt would say a lot of incendiary things about UCF, many speculate because Leavitt had interviewed at UCF in the past and was not hired.
UCF was independent whereas USF joined CUSA in football due to their Olympic sport tie in. Then the Big East came and USF fell into that last slot in 2005. Giving the appearance that USF had past UCF in that short window.
As part of the exit agreement with CUSA, USF was "Forced" to play UCF where they went 4-0 in the series (2005-2008) and the series was not renewed.
Obviously a lot has changed since then but it was perceived that the new guy had stolen a better position at the table without earning it. It would be like if Charlotte all of the sudden was invited to the ACC even though they have just started football.
I think with Leavitt being gone (ie the Big Four), USF being terrible for some time and the Big East falling apart, a lot of the animosity is not as angry as it was in the late 90's/ 2000s.