(11-07-2016 12:34 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Trump. He may be a bit of a wild card, but she is known to be corrupt, incompetent, and available for the highest bidder.

And she's a threat to our basic freedoms with her thugs trying to shut down opposition political rallies, her suited thugs suing people who don't agree with progressive orthodoxy on climate change and trumping up ridiculous charges like calling the veto of a bill (Rick Perry) extortion.

Win or lose, she is a lying corruptocrat. She'd go through the pockets of her during grandmother if it meant a few pesos.

I could give a **** less if Obama refuses to give up the job as long as she does not get the keys to the henhouse.

She'll never get my respect. My flag will fly upside down during the duration of her term if she wins.

I'd take Hillary over Obama in a heartbeat. They're both socialists/communists, but at least Hillary has Bill to talk some sense into her. Michelle, no way.

Should go without saying that I voted (early) against Trump.


By far the most corrupt, least trustworthy, biggest piece of ___ human being, who has ever been a serious candidate for POTUS.


I hope that he loses the election and loses the court case against Trump University. Then is never heard from again. That would be a wonderful dream.

This is going to be a historic landslide! I can't believe it!

Also should go without saying: people who are enthusiastically voting for Trump, aren't actually voting for Trump.

They're voting for what they think is a (long overdue) major shakeup.



I can't figure out if I should laugh, or cry, at the sheer absurdity of that. I mean ..... how _____ing stupid do you have to be, to believe that Trump is going to be any different than Clinton, Bush, Obama ... any of them.

I detest this "anti-establishment" movement, for nothing more than the sheer stupidity of it.


And the most wacky part of it: all of these people have been greatly helped in their lives by organizations, chiefly their respective governments. And none have been harmed by them.

Yet they whip themselves up into anger, and lash out at smoke. A formless, nameless villain.

(11-07-2016 02:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Also should go without saying: people who are enthusiastically voting for Trump, aren't actually voting for Trump.

They're voting for what they think is a (long overdue) major shakeup.



I can't figure out if I should laugh, or cry, at the sheer absurdity of that. I mean ..... how _____ing stupid do you have to be, to believe that Trump is going to be any different than Clinton, Bush, Obama ... any of them.

I detest this "anti-establishment" movement, for nothing more than the sheer stupidity of it.


And the most wacky part of it: all of these people have been greatly helped in their lives by organizations, chiefly their respective governments. And none have been harmed by them.

Yet they whip themselves up into anger, and lash out at smoke. A formless, nameless villain.

I doubt Trump will be any different. However, he's not an elected official. That alone will increase the probability that he's a change agent. IMHO, it's much more sound to pin your hopes on that than to expect that Hillary is going to shake up the establishment. How stupid can you get if you are a staunch believer in Bernie's message and conclude that Hillary will deliver on any of her "left turn"?

(11-07-2016 02:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Also should go without saying: people who are enthusiastically voting for Trump, aren't actually voting for Trump.

They're voting for what they think is a (long overdue) major shakeup.



I can't figure out if I should laugh, or cry, at the sheer absurdity of that. I mean ..... how _____ing stupid do you have to be, to believe that Trump is going to be any different than Clinton, Bush, Obama ... any of them.

I detest this "anti-establishment" movement, for nothing more than the sheer stupidity of it.


And the most wacky part of it: all of these people have been greatly helped in their lives by organizations, chiefly their respective governments. And none have been harmed by them.

Yet they whip themselves up into anger, and lash out at smoke. A formless, nameless villain.

I detest those who think the establishment and the status-quo is okay.

(11-07-2016 02:41 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I'd take Hillary over Obama in a heartbeat. They're both socialists/communists, but at least Hillary has Bill to talk some sense into her. Michelle, no way.

Barack is not a thief. He's not amoral. And I don't think he would really condone his people disrupting opposition rallies. I also think he really wants to do good even if he finds it hard to see beyond his own narcissism. He also is not chronically incompetent. He has Jimmy Carter style idealism that doesn't work in the international world but his judgement is limited by that and is merely bad, not terrible.

Also, I don't think Hillary listens much to Bill, who does at least have common sense and understands people who don't live inside the Beltway.

Barack and Michelle hate America, but Hillary hates Americans.

Amazing what happens when you don't poll 10%-25% more Democrats.

Trump 59%
Clinton 18%
Johnson 18%

(11-07-2016 02:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Should go without saying that I voted (early) against Trump.


By far the most corrupt, least trustworthy, biggest piece of ___ human being, who has ever been a serious candidate for POTUS.


I hope that he loses the election and loses the court case against Trump University. Then is never heard from again. That would be a wonderful dream.

Your second paragraph is actually a perfect description of Hillary.

(11-07-2016 02:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  I can't figure out if I should laugh, or cry, at the sheer absurdity of that. I mean ..... how _____ing stupid do you have to be, to believe that Trump is going to be any different than Clinton, Bush, Obama ... any of them.

I detest this "anti-establishment" movement, for nothing more than the sheer stupidity of it.

I have comfort and confidence in my own beliefs that do not require someone else's validation.

(11-07-2016 02:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  And the most wacky part of it: all of these people have been greatly helped in their lives by organizations, chiefly their respective governments. And none have been harmed by them.

Yet they whip themselves up into anger, and lash out at smoke. A formless, nameless villain.

We have wars on drugs, poverty, terrorism, etc etc — and we aren’t winning any of them. Tell those impacted by the above that a large intrusive government is a formless, nameless villain.

miko #27,

Not a single voter in the entire thing is voting for Hillary to be an agent of change. WTF are you talking about???

A vote for Hillary is either: a) a vote against Trump (like mine, for example), or b) a vote for who you believe to be the only candidate actually qualified to run the country (Trump, Johnson, and Stein are not, in that respect).


LS,

You personally, have never been harmed by government, and have benefited greatly.

Your vote is a lash out at ... nothing. Or perhaps you just want to belong to a movement or belong to something. Not sure.

But in either case, your choice of lashing out against the government is absolutely arbitrary.

(11-07-2016 02:56 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Amazing what happens when you don't poll 10%-25% more Democrats.

Trump 59%
Clinton 18%
Johnson 18%

And you limit the number of illegals voting.

Poor Mpls has been brain washed. He thinks Trump is the devil, when in reality he loves Hispanics and employs the African Americans.

(11-07-2016 03:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Poor Mpls has been brain washed. He thinks Trump is the devil, when in reality he loves Hispanics and employs the African Americans.

yep! He loves all of the people......except Rosie O'Donnell who is a fat slob.

(11-07-2016 03:32 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2016 03:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Poor Mpls has been brain washed. He thinks Trump is the devil, when in reality he loves Hispanics and employs the African Americans.

yep! He loves all of the people......except Rosie O'Donnell who is a fat slob.

& Fascinated Megyn.

I voted Gary Johnson.

I live in TN. TN is decidedly Red and it's 11 votes will go to Trump.

I can't stand Trump, I can't stand Hillary, and I think Gary Johnson is a wacko.
I want less Federal government, period. The Libertarian party platform currently best aligns with my political leanings.

As the wacko (Gary Johnson) has no chance in my state, I'm playing the 'long game'. Doing my part to hopefully lift the Libertarian party into increased legitimacy for the next election.
#letgarydebate

(11-07-2016 03:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  LS,

You personally, have never been harmed by government, and have benefited greatly.

Your vote is a lash out at ... nothing. Or perhaps you just want to belong to a movement or belong to something. Not sure.

But in either case, your choice of lashing out against the government is absolutely arbitrary.

You're right, I forgot you know all the details of myself and my family. How silly of me!

So if we are supposed to believe this poll, 55% of this forum will be gone after tomorrow.