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FWIW, Abraham Lincoln lost several elections before being elected president.

Better hurry for that list.

The Republicans are bailing, starting from the top.

What a bush league, ****** up election. FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** Donald Trump for not answering that question.

Anyone who is an enthusiastic supporter of EITHER Trump OR Clinton has no moral or ethical foundation.

These are two vile, dirty, horrible, human beings. Both are rotten to the core.

Only reason to vote for one, is to vote AGAINST the other.

I am. Yes he is not perfect but better than Clinton. I am surprised you are asking as the vast majority on this board are Dems.

Just some reasons:
Supreme court picks
Border security
Immigration
Trade


Trump is not that conservative, probably more like a 50-60's Democrat. Current Democratic party has veered hard left.

I was watch Morning Smoe this morning and Joe and one of panel guys said they never heard any kind of talk like the Trump comments just released....please are you serious?

(10-10-2016 08:17 AM)GullLake Wrote:  Anyone who is an enthusiastic supporter of EITHER Trump OR Clinton has no moral or ethical foundation.

These are two vile, dirty, horrible, human beings. Both are rotten to the core.

Only reason to vote for one, is to vote AGAINST the other.

True. I must admit though, while i am not overly impressed by Pence, Hillary's VP is detestable. I would take Pence over him in a huge way.

Unfortunately, there aren't even any good third party candidates to vote for this year.

(10-10-2016 08:44 AM)brovol Wrote:  Hillary's VP is detestable.

LOL, please, explain. I can't wait to hear this!

(10-10-2016 08:33 AM)bronco74 Wrote:  I am. Yes he is not perfect but better than Clinton. I am surprised you are asking as the vast majority on this board are Dems.

Just some reasons:
Supreme court picks
Border security
Immigration
Trade


Trump is not that conservative, probably more like a 50-60's Democrat. Current Democratic party has veered hard left.

I was watch Morning Smoe this morning and Joe and one of panel guys said they never heard any kind of talk like the Trump comments just released....please are you serious?

Not sure about you but I don't typically hear my buddies talking about sexually assaulting random women.

I'm pretty sure if ANY of my friends, private setting, "LOCKER ROOM, or hoisting beers at the rare happy hour we meet, EVER said the "grab them by their ..." line, faces would wrinkle and the next thing said would be "dude, what's wrong with you?!?!"

That and saying "I just kiss them and they let me because I'm a star" line was just so whack. The only think more worse was that Bush lemming afraid to call him out and instead, uncomfortably laughing.

I'd have told him to STFU. No doubt in my mind.

Problems with the candidates aside...how terrible were the moderators last night? Constantly interrupting and arguing with the candidates.

Yeah, those mods need to learn to block proxies, either use a service or create a table of elite proxies, then the proxy using persrods wouldn't be able to pull their malarkey.

(10-10-2016 01:07 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Problems with the candidates aside...how terrible were the moderators last night? Constantly interrupting and arguing with the candidates.

For some reason I used to like CNN anchors like Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper but this last year they have gotten TERRIBLE. Maybe I just started paying closer attention. The debate did help me decide who I am going to vote for though.

Lemon is a scumbag.

Latest BS being perpetrated here in Florida is Governor Scott evacuated
people to interfere with with their ability to register to vote during Category 4 Hurricane Matthew. It's a hurricane voter scandal according to certain media outlets. The Dems are afraid of low voter turnout among minorities and millenials here in the Sunshine State. They are pushing the idea Trump people are using Jim Crow tactics in an attempt to stir minority voters and Al Gore is working the millenials, since they are most familiar with him because of with activism with Global warming-election. Gore, who first attempted to pad the voter rolls and redistrict voters during his heading of Bill Clinton's re-election, is telling millenials not to vote for 3rd party candidates. Amazing that a campaign that is 11% ahead in the polls is pulling out all stops and seemed panicked.

CBS Morning ran a piece on Trump's referring to his taped improper behavior as "locker room talk" as not the case in pro locker rooms. They focus mainly on the Cleveland Cav's. From what I heard from insiders is NBA players are tight lipped brotherhood that covers each other's backs. While seen partying in public there are also security guarded private parties, where cell phones are collected at the door, that go on in spots liked leased penthouses where obviously family members are not invited. And of course in most cases many women are throwing themselves at these guys. CBS definitely attempted to make Trump look worse by portraying this locker room mentality as being nonexistent in pro sports actually made themselves appear as having little credibility in this election. I personally have never seen this much crap. First time I remember this kind of stuff was reading about how Rockefeller hired pregnant women to walk with signs that read "Nixon's the One!" in "Nixon Agonistes". It has really escalated from there.

Trump made himself look bad. Not the medias fault.

The tactic deflecting from Trumps activities by saying Clinton did it too makes no sense to me. If they are saying Clinton was awful, doesn't that make Trump awful as well?

And that thing in the debate where Trump threatens to throw Hillary in jail is just right over the edge, sounds like a tin plate dictator.

The man would make that fictional character above look like a schoolmarm.

(10-11-2016 09:46 AM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  The tactic deflecting from Trumps activities by saying Clinton did it too makes no sense to me. If they are saying Clinton was awful, doesn't that make Trump awful as well?

And that thing in the debate where Trump threatens to throw Hillary in jail is just right over the edge, sounds like a tin plate dictator.

Yeah, but we have due process. It's if it was left up to him, Trump would jail her I might too. David Schippers' book "Sellout" is a very good read. It is an indictment of both sides of the aisle failure to take the moral road and largely why this election is so F'd up. Btw, Schippers, a lifelong Democrat with his family actively involved, was Chief Investigative Counsel for the House Judiciary Committee, but known for his honesty.

"When the time came to name this book, one word came to mind: "Sellout." The Republican leadership in the Senate and House sold out the House Managers and our investigation. Democrats in both Houses sold out basic principles of law and decency for the sake of protecting one of their own. But most distressingly, the President of the United States of America and his White House water boys sold out the American people-not just in a one-time spasm of political expedience, but in a deliberate snarl of sophistry and cynical manipulation of public opinion, the singular aim of which was political self-preservation . In the process, he soiled not just himself, but the Constitution, the public trust, and the Presidency itself."

7 years later.

http://www.wnd.com/2007/09/43440/