(08-20-2016 09:58 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:40 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  What would happen to the old stadium?

Good question.

I don't know how much a demo would cost, but I imagine it would be fairly expensive. Maybe a developer with deep pockets and patience could pull it off. I'm not up to date with the real estate trends in B'ham so I do not know for sure

(08-20-2016 09:40 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  What would happen to the old stadium?

It's set to host some World Games events in 2020. After that, who knows?

It's a relic in a bad neighborhood.

Just wait, though. If it gets razed to the ground, the people crying the loudest will be people whose favorite teams stopped playing there 20 years ago.

(08-20-2016 09:58 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:40 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  What would happen to the old stadium?

Good question.

Like I have stated in this thread earlier, Legion Field will host the opening ceremonies of the 2021 World Games. The neighborhood around Legion Field will undergo major changes between now and 2020 and LF will receive over $3 million dollars in cosmetics for those games. I expect Legion Field to be around for at least 10 years if not longer.

(08-20-2016 10:48 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:58 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:40 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  What would happen to the old stadium?

Good question.

Like I have stated in this thread earlier, Legion Field will host the opening ceremonies of the 2021 World Games. The neighborhood around Legion Field will undergo major changes between now and 2020 and LF will receive over $3 million dollars in cosmetics for those games. I expect Legion Field to be around for at least 10 years if not longer.

The Elyton and Smithfield Projects won't be there much longer. There are plans right now to get rid of both sets of those housing projects. The big questions is where do those people go?

(08-20-2016 11:54 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 10:48 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:58 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:40 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  What would happen to the old stadium?

Good question.

Like I have stated in this thread earlier, Legion Field will host the opening ceremonies of the 2021 World Games. The neighborhood around Legion Field will undergo major changes between now and 2020 and LF will receive over $3 million dollars in cosmetics for those games. I expect Legion Field to be around for at least 10 years if not longer.

The Elyton and Smithfield Projects won't be there much longer. There are plans right now to get rid of both sets of those housing projects. The big questions is where do those people go?

They will be placed in other Hope IV like places and have to show they are capable of upkeeping their home if they want to be allowed to move back to their neighborhood. Loveman Village and Southtown Projects will also be redeveloped within the next two years.

(08-20-2016 08:58 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 12:55 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-18-2016 02:45 AM)ICB Wrote:  

(08-18-2016 02:06 AM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(08-18-2016 12:20 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  Lol, pretty sure UAB had better attendance than La Tech in 2014, after a decade straight of losing seasons. Shall I point out any more facts for you, or is that enough? I'd be more than happy to show you how much money is being given to the football program compared to past years.

We were coming off a losing season as well...
Lets be honest with ourselves here. The only reason UAB had a higher average attendance than Louisiana Tech in 2014 was because they played Troy, Alabama A&M, and Marshall at Legion Field. The next highest of those is North Texas, your homecoming game, which got to a little over 20K. Our game at UAB had 9,457.

It is nice that you get a new stadium. I find the low angle of the seating to be a bit odd, but it may be nice to watch that way. Not sure, never been to one that acute.

Give me a break LA Tech fans, in 2015... You hosted Southern [ie Alabama A&M], Louisiana (LA-LA) [ie Troy], MT, & Southern Miss and still only averaged 20,977. Coming off of an appearance in C-USA championship game and bowl victory.

You know CUSA has reached a new low when a school that was stupid enough to literally shut down their very solid football program for 2 years has fans wanting to talk attendance smack against a fellow member program coming off back to back 9-win seasons and two nice bowl wins. Mic drop.....

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard, I'm not sure what you're "dropping the mic" over("get off my lawn" is more your speed anyhow) but you act as if it was UAB fans who started the smack talk(hint: it wasn't) or that the UAB fans defending their program are the ones who voted fo shut down the program(hint: they weren't).

I don't even know what that stupid, rambling, post means. I guess you just like to hear yourself yak.

(08-20-2016 01:05 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 08:58 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 12:55 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  You know CUSA has reached a new low when a school that was stupid enough to literally shut down their very solid football program for 2 years has fans wanting to talk attendance smack against a fellow member program coming off back to back 9-win seasons and two nice bowl wins. Mic drop.....

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard, I'm not sure what you're "dropping the mic" over("get off my lawn" is more your speed anyhow) but you act as if it was UAB fans who started the smack talk(hint: it wasn't) or that the UAB fans defending their program are the ones who voted fo shut down the program(hint: they weren't).

I don't even know what that stupid, rambling, post means. I guess you just like to hear yourself yak.

It means, as usual, your post was largely hot air.

A Tech fan started the smack talk in an otherwise largely positive thread.

A UAB fan pointed out they had better attendance than La Tech their final season.

A La Tech fan tried to explain how on earth lowly UAB could have possibly passed the mighty La Tech.

(Oh by the way, a USM fan definitely talked smack)

(08-18-2016 07:08 AM)GoBigGold Wrote:  Tech poking holes in someone's attendance....laughable.

And then you show up suggesting UAB was talking smack and they had no right to do so based on them getting screwed by Ray Watts and Bryant Jr.

What I don't get is how UAB fans, who had nothing to do with the stupid decision, are somehow precluded from pointing out they had better attendance than Tech in their final season.

(08-20-2016 01:37 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 01:05 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 08:58 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 12:55 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  You know CUSA has reached a new low when a school that was stupid enough to literally shut down their very solid football program for 2 years has fans wanting to talk attendance smack against a fellow member program coming off back to back 9-win seasons and two nice bowl wins. Mic drop.....

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard, I'm not sure what you're "dropping the mic" over("get off my lawn" is more your speed anyhow) but you act as if it was UAB fans who started the smack talk(hint: it wasn't) or that the UAB fans defending their program are the ones who voted fo shut down the program(hint: they weren't).

I don't even know what that stupid, rambling, post means. I guess you just like to hear yourself yak.

It means, as usual, your post was largely hot air.

A Tech fan started the smack talk in an otherwise largely positive thread.

A UAB fan pointed out they had better attendance than La Tech their final season.

A La Tech fan tried to explain how on earth lowly UAB could have possibly passed the mighty La Tech.

(Oh by the way, a USM fan definitely talked smack)

(08-18-2016 07:08 AM)GoBigGold Wrote:  Tech poking holes in someone's attendance....laughable.

And then you show up suggesting UAB was talking smack and they had no right to do so based on them getting screwed by Ray Watts and Bryant Jr.

What I don't get is how UAB fans, who had nothing to do with the stupid decision, are somehow precluded from pointing out they had better attendance than Tech in their final season.

You've been a dumb arse since your old days --about 10 yrs ago-- on BB&B. And unlike most people, you just haven't gotten any smarter since. And now you're pathetically trying to carry the torch for UAB....on a subject that clearly doesn't involve you.

(08-20-2016 01:45 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  You've been a dumb arse since your old days --about 10 yrs ago-- on BB&B. And unlike most people, you just haven't gotten any smarter since. And now you're pathetically trying to carry the torch for UAB....on a subject that clearly doesn't involve you.

I don't have to be carrying the torch for anyone to point out that, as always, HD views the world through his own La Tech colored glasses.

(08-20-2016 01:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 01:45 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  You've been a dumb arse since your old days --about 10 yrs ago-- on BB&B. And unlike most people, you just haven't gotten any smarter since. And now you're pathetically trying to carry the torch for UAB....on a subject that clearly doesn't involve you.

I don't have to be carrying the torch for anyone to point out that, as always, HD views the world through his own La Tech colored glasses.

......And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The City of Birmingham needs a 60,000 maybe even more to compete with bowls and neutral site games going forward. If they built a 65000 stadium with potential temporary seats of 10000 more they could host the championship. The stadium also needs a bunch of luxury seating. UAB has put a lot of butts in the seats in the past when they were decent just didn't notice because they played in the large stadium that would swallow a decent size crowd.

(08-20-2016 02:38 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The City of Birmingham needs a 60,000 maybe even more to compete with bowls and neutral site games going forward. If they built a 65000 stadium with potential temporary seats of 10000 more they could host the championship. The stadium also needs a bunch of luxury seating. UAB has put a lot of butts in the seats in the past when they were decent just didn't notice because they played in the large stadium that would swallow a decent size crowd.

If any city in the country the size of Birmingham deserves a shot at hosting, it's Birmingham, but let's be serious. Championship game sites are not determined by most "football crazed cities" they're picked based on some combination of city infrastructure for hosting such a huge event, desirability as a tourist location and quality of facility.

I mean no disrespect to Birmingham, but the cities that host(or will bid/host in the future) are all dramatically larger(New Orleans being the lone exception and in terms of tourism it's not close), are much more desirable locales and have much nicer and larger stadiums, even if this stadium was built to accomodate 75,000 it still wouldn't be a NFL facility.

I think 75,000 is too big. The only way you build that big is if you know without a shadow of a doubt that the city is landing one of those neutral site kickoff games. 75,000 seats has UAB playing in a new state of the art stadium that's too big instead of an old run down one that's too big.

(08-20-2016 02:48 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:38 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The City of Birmingham needs a 60,000 maybe even more to compete with bowls and neutral site games going forward. If they built a 65000 stadium with potential temporary seats of 10000 more they could host the championship. The stadium also needs a bunch of luxury seating. UAB has put a lot of butts in the seats in the past when they were decent just didn't notice because they played in the large stadium that would swallow a decent size crowd.

If any city in the country the size of Birmingham deserves a shot at hosting, it's Birmingham, but let's be serious. Championship game sites are not determined by most "football crazed cities" they're picked based on some combination of city infrastructure for hosting such a huge event, desirability as a tourist location and quality of facility.

I mean no disrespect to Birmingham, but the cities that host(or will bid/host in the future) are all dramatically larger(New Orleans being the lone exception and in terms of tourism it's not close), are much more desirable locales and have much nicer and larger stadiums, even if this stadium was built to accomodate 75,000 it still wouldn't be a NFL facility.

Yeah we're not looking to host a playoff game, I think 45000 is solid maybe 50

Anyway I hope it goes through for UAB you guys deserve it.

(08-20-2016 03:03 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:48 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:38 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The City of Birmingham needs a 60,000 maybe even more to compete with bowls and neutral site games going forward. If they built a 65000 stadium with potential temporary seats of 10000 more they could host the championship. The stadium also needs a bunch of luxury seating. UAB has put a lot of butts in the seats in the past when they were decent just didn't notice because they played in the large stadium that would swallow a decent size crowd.

If any city in the country the size of Birmingham deserves a shot at hosting, it's Birmingham, but let's be serious. Championship game sites are not determined by most "football crazed cities" they're picked based on some combination of city infrastructure for hosting such a huge event, desirability as a tourist location and quality of facility.

I mean no disrespect to Birmingham, but the cities that host(or will bid/host in the future) are all dramatically larger(New Orleans being the lone exception and in terms of tourism it's not close), are much more desirable locales and have much nicer and larger stadiums, even if this stadium was built to accomodate 75,000 it still wouldn't be a NFL facility.

Yeah we're not looking to host a playoff game, I think 45000 is solid maybe 50

I think 60-65k. You build too small and you almost guarantee that city won't get the early season neutral site games that Birmingham is trying to attract.

(08-20-2016 01:45 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 01:37 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 01:05 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 08:58 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 12:55 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  You know CUSA has reached a new low when a school that was stupid enough to literally shut down their very solid football program for 2 years has fans wanting to talk attendance smack against a fellow member program coming off back to back 9-win seasons and two nice bowl wins. Mic drop.....

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard, I'm not sure what you're "dropping the mic" over("get off my lawn" is more your speed anyhow) but you act as if it was UAB fans who started the smack talk(hint: it wasn't) or that the UAB fans defending their program are the ones who voted fo shut down the program(hint: they weren't).

I don't even know what that stupid, rambling, post means. I guess you just like to hear yourself yak.

It means, as usual, your post was largely hot air.

A Tech fan started the smack talk in an otherwise largely positive thread.

A UAB fan pointed out they had better attendance than La Tech their final season.

A La Tech fan tried to explain how on earth lowly UAB could have possibly passed the mighty La Tech.

(Oh by the way, a USM fan definitely talked smack)

(08-18-2016 07:08 AM)GoBigGold Wrote:  Tech poking holes in someone's attendance....laughable.

And then you show up suggesting UAB was talking smack and they had no right to do so based on them getting screwed by Ray Watts and Bryant Jr.

What I don't get is how UAB fans, who had nothing to do with the stupid decision, are somehow precluded from pointing out they had better attendance than Tech in their final season.

You've been a dumb arse since your old days --about 10 yrs ago-- on BB&B. And unlike most people, you just haven't gotten any smarter since. And now you're pathetically trying to carry the torch for UAB....on a subject that clearly doesn't involve you.

Nor you, but here you are.

I like the rendering! Hope you guys get 'er done.

(08-20-2016 12:45 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 11:54 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 10:48 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:58 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 09:40 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  What would happen to the old stadium?

Good question.

Like I have stated in this thread earlier, Legion Field will host the opening ceremonies of the 2021 World Games. The neighborhood around Legion Field will undergo major changes between now and 2020 and LF will receive over $3 million dollars in cosmetics for those games. I expect Legion Field to be around for at least 10 years if not longer.

The Elyton and Smithfield Projects won't be there much longer. There are plans right now to get rid of both sets of those housing projects. The big questions is where do those people go?

They will be placed in other Hope IV like places and have to show they are capable of upkeeping their home if they want to be allowed to move back to their neighborhood. Loveman Village and Southtown Projects will also be redeveloped within the next two years.

Is there a designated place to donate to help these folks? If so, please let me know. Please and Thank You.

(08-20-2016 03:40 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 03:03 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:48 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:38 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The City of Birmingham needs a 60,000 maybe even more to compete with bowls and neutral site games going forward. If they built a 65000 stadium with potential temporary seats of 10000 more they could host the championship. The stadium also needs a bunch of luxury seating. UAB has put a lot of butts in the seats in the past when they were decent just didn't notice because they played in the large stadium that would swallow a decent size crowd.

If any city in the country the size of Birmingham deserves a shot at hosting, it's Birmingham, but let's be serious. Championship game sites are not determined by most "football crazed cities" they're picked based on some combination of city infrastructure for hosting such a huge event, desirability as a tourist location and quality of facility.

I mean no disrespect to Birmingham, but the cities that host(or will bid/host in the future) are all dramatically larger(New Orleans being the lone exception and in terms of tourism it's not close), are much more desirable locales and have much nicer and larger stadiums, even if this stadium was built to accomodate 75,000 it still wouldn't be a NFL facility.

Yeah we're not looking to host a playoff game, I think 45000 is solid maybe 50

I think 60-65k. You build too small and you almost guarantee that city won't get the early season neutral site games that Birmingham is trying to attract.

The primary reason this stadium is being built is because UAB will be the main tenants. It doesn't make sense to build a 60-65k seat stadium when your main tenant attendance will probably average around 27-30k. 55k is probably the max this stadium should be and that would be large enough to accommodate the Classic. I honestly don't believe Birmingham is interested in hosting neutral site early season games.