(07-28-2016 06:52 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(07-28-2016 05:18 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-28-2016 04:49 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  One thing I know for sure is the folks at the SUN are extremely wary of getting on the wrong side of A-State supporters on this matter , and are going out of their way to portray themselves as pro-asu. I thought that only happened with the UofA, things have changed.

Might explain why their sports reporter had such nice things to say about the football team.

They ended their editorial today with "It's time for Welch and the board of trusties to make some tough decisions to get ASU back to the university we all know and love."

Back to the university we all know and love, what are they talking about A-State fans? Eliminate all Doctoral programs? Move football back to1AA? Tear down the new facilities? Get rid of the med school. Don't build a first class convention center on campus that benefits the institution that will provide much of the business? Are most likely don't call out a mayor and other elected officials for engaging in skulduggery, and probably worse.

IMO if A-State alumni and supporters allow these local yokels to get away with this they will lose THEIR University (maybe just call it Jonesboro City College) , and these people don't give a rats ass about the University unless it benefits them.

We're not allowing anyone to get away with anything. Anyone who has paid attention to this knows who is winning this fight, and its not Jonesboro. We bring in a few million dollars to the local economy yearly, and are the 2nd largest employer in the county. We're not going anywhere

Honestly though, Jonesboro leaders would love for us to go back to the ASU from 10 years ago. That's sort of the point. They much preferred us as a small commuter campus that brought a few jobs to the area, but didn't ask for much. They don't like the version that's growing by the day and starting to punch in a different weight class.

I did not know that, and am kinda jealous. .

The last time I was asked to join the fray, when all was said and done the ASU president was out, governor was out, and one of the richest men in Arkansas decided it would be in his best interest to leave the country.

That was my last involvement with A-State.

That was years ago before we had a ton of support in the local community, and alums well placed high up in the state political machine.

This is a government issue in Jonesboro...not a community issue. That's why we're winning the fight. The only people fighting against us are people who are upset that we're not lining their pockets with cash to get our way.

The quick primer on the city/AState conflict.

Jonesboro has wanted a convention center for years, they had one plan fall through over the availability of land, another died with the start of the recession because lending wasn't available. AState announced it's plan and worked through a number of developers. One they passed on was a small developer that had two convention center projects fail and another ailing so they went with a different developer (duh). Mayor pledges support for the AState project and assures AState that some of the hotel tax money will be pledged to help.

In the meantime, a local group came up with the idea for developing another parcel and hooked up with the developer that the school passed on. Mayor then says he will support whichever one can bring a plan first and the local group dashes in with their plan (which includes: the mayor's buddy doing the dirt work and the mayor's campaign manager and former business partners selling the land to the developer. Suddenly the city electric and water company is loaning the A&P commission to help the city fund the deal.

The two hospitals in Jonesboro (St Bernard's is the county's largest employer) and the largest manufacturer all come out endorse the AState convention center and the commission declines to provide any city assistance at all.

Long-standing tradition in Arkansas, you better have your ducks in a row when you challenge power. When Attorney General Steve Clark announced he would run against Clinton for governor, all of sudden reporters obtained records of his government credit card use and ended up losing his law license. When the University of Central Arkansas president started tweaking the nose of UA over their growth and rising scores of the freshman class it suddenly was revealed he had forged the names of three vice-presidents on a memo encouraging the board to accelerate some deferred payments to the president and he ends up with a Federal conviction.

Based on what's out there right now, Dr. Hudson will be fine, if more shoes drop, then maybe not but the paper clearly was given very good information their FOI requests were precisely on point.

Looks like no one has your chancellors back, and I've never read a bigger piece of garbage than what the SUN put out today in their Opinion section. Talk about abuse of power.

(08-03-2016 06:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Looks like no one has your chancellors back, and I've never read a bigger piece of garbage than what the SUN put out today in their Opinion section. Talk about abuse of power.

Huh?
Paxton Media is based in KY like they give two craps what is in the paper as long as they are selling ads and papers and you don't get readership by applauding, you get it by attacking and tearing things down. You watch cable news at all?

I watch cable news a little but you can find a diversity of views on every subject under the sun ( no pun intended) , but that is not the case here.

The Sun exists to sell papers. They don't care at all whether or not they cover us. It's all about readership for them.

Tim Hudson officially turned in his resignation today

It goes to show that if the local paper complains about someone long enough, the school will eventually cave.

Almost certainly will go after Welch next, and fact is you have lost control over the direction the University will be going. Should have kept your seat at the back of the bus.

A-State = Jonesboro City College.

(08-03-2016 10:19 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Tim Hudson officially turned in his resignation today

It goes to show that if the local paper complains about someone long enough, the school will eventually cave.

I don't think this is the case at all.
Hearing the University stumbled onto other issues while looking at what the Sun raised.

(08-03-2016 10:43 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Almost certainly will go after Welch next, and fact is you have lost control over the direction the University will be going. Should have kept your seat at the back of the bus.

A-State = Jonesboro City College.

Uhh...Churck Welch does not have much to do with what happens on the Jonesboro campus. He is president system wide, and is based out of our System offices in Little Rock.

He generally leaves the Chancellor at each school to their own devices.

(08-03-2016 10:43 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Almost certainly will go after Welch next, and fact is you have lost control over the direction the University will be going. Should have kept your seat at the back of the bus.

A-State = Jonesboro City College.

They are not going after Welch. Lost control? All that is known is that Hudson made a poor decision about the hiring process of the study abroad program that has a small amount of students involved.

Per A-State.
Hudson Resigns as Chancellor of Arkansas State University;
Provost Cooksey Named Acting Chancellor
8/3/2016
JONESBORO – Dr. Tim Hudson resigned Tuesday, effective immediately, as chancellor of Arkansas State University after four years of service on the Jonesboro campus.
Dr. Charles Welch, president of the ASU System, said he accepted Hudson’s resignation Tuesday evening. Welch named Dr. Lynita Cooksey, Provost and Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Research at A-State, as the acting chancellor.
“I have asked Dr. Lynita Cooksey to serve in a temporary role as acting chancellor. In the coming days I will develop plans for a long-term interim appointment,” Welch said. “I want to thank Dr. Tim Hudson for his service to Arkansas State University. A-State experienced many significant milestones during his tenure, including the most academically talented freshman classes in university history, record numbers of graduating students, record annual fundraising totals, creation of a public-private partnership with New York Institute of Technology to bring an osteopathic medical school to the A-State campus, completion of multiple major capital projects including the Humanities Building, and unprecedented institutional successes in intercollegiate athletics.
"Additionally, Dr. Hudson, his wife Dr. Dee Dee Hudson, and their entire family welcomed thousands of university supporters into the Chancellor's Residence to showcase the many talented members of the university community. I appreciate Tim, Dee Dee, and their family for their many contributions to A State, and I wish them well in their future endeavors.”
Hudson, who was appointed chancellor in 2012, also resigned as a professor of the College of Business at A-State.
Cooksey, a 1979 graduate of Arkansas State, became vice chancellor and provost in 2012 and held several other leadership roles after joining the A-State faculty in 1993. Prior to her appointment as associate vice chancellor for Academic Services in 2000, she was associate dean of the then-College of Arts and Sciences and taught for several years in the Department of Biological Sciences, where she also held chair and associate chair positions.
Other appointments have included Dean of University College, where she was instrumental in establishing the First-Year Experience program at A-State. She was in charge of facilitating and coordinating the most recent accreditation process with The Higher Learning Commission of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools. "

They have already implied that his being in Little Rock puts him out of the loop, and implied that he had not shown proper leadership on this matter, and seem to have little regards for due process.

(08-03-2016 11:06 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  They have already implied that his being in Little Rock puts him out of the loop, and implied that he had not shown proper leadership on this matter, and seem to have little regards for due process.

There are those in Jonesboro who have never liked the system offices being in Little Rock.

Those people are dummies, but they do exist.

That sounds like some of them getting in licks.

He should have stuck to pitching I guess

(08-03-2016 11:25 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 11:06 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  They have already implied that his being in Little Rock puts him out of the loop, and implied that he had not shown proper leadership on this matter, and seem to have little regards for due process.

There are those in Jonesboro who have never liked the system offices being in Little Rock.

Those people are dummies, but they do exist.

That sounds like some of them getting in licks.

They are the people who want their decision to live in Jonesboro validated. That means every coach should be happy to live there even if it means turning down a million more a year. They don't want anything to do with Little Rock, you can buy liquor by the bottle or the drink and don't have the pretense of private clubs. It's scary and they are afraid of getting murderized if they even pass through on the interstate.

(08-03-2016 10:53 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:19 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Tim Hudson officially turned in his resignation today

It goes to show that if the local paper complains about someone long enough, the school will eventually cave.

I don't think this is the case at all.
Hearing the University stumbled onto other issues while looking at what the Sun raised.

Hate to hear this as I have heard positive things about Hudson. But they usually they can find something if they want to. But I stand by my earlier comment - presidents / chancellors should not hire their spouses or really any family. Even if on the up and up, just doesn't look good and invites too much scrutiny.

(08-03-2016 02:04 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:53 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:19 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Tim Hudson officially turned in his resignation today

It goes to show that if the local paper complains about someone long enough, the school will eventually cave.

I don't think this is the case at all.
Hearing the University stumbled onto other issues while looking at what the Sun raised.

Hate to hear this as I have heard positive things about Hudson. But they usually they can find something if they want to. But I stand by my earlier comment - presidents / chancellors should not hire their spouses or really any family. Even if on the up and up, just doesn't look good and invites too much scrutiny.

He shepherded progress on....

New press box facility
New indoor practice facility
Mexico Campus
Medical School
On-campus Hotel/Convention Center
Academic reorganization

Those are some biggies.

He left his mark.

I know nothing definitive other than what has been published so far, but seriously you make $360,000 a year, you have no mortgage payment, you get a vehicle provided, you get plenty of work related travel with most of the cost picked up, you get a number of meals provided because you are hosting events at the Chancellor's residence doing the school's business and you get in a crack for trying to hire a family member into a $50k a year job. That's just silliness and poor judgment.

(08-03-2016 03:05 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I know nothing definitive other than what has been published so far, but seriously you make $360,000 a year, you have no mortgage payment, you get a vehicle provided, you get plenty of work related travel with most of the cost picked up, you get a number of meals provided because you are hosting events at the Chancellor's residence doing the school's business and you get in a crack for trying to hire a family member into a $50k a year job. That's just silliness and poor judgment.

It's poor judgment anywhere. But its really poor judgment in Jonesboro...and while fighting some local powerbrokers to boot.