(07-29-2016 07:38 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  So, lets consider Houston, the only G-5 team left unranked by the mighty Sentinel. It looks pretty safe for them to be a top 25 team. If we set the over/under at 15, which way to you think they go? I'm taking the under with them coming in at 14. What do you think?

AGGIE, I'm not only going out on the limb, I'm going to climb to the edge and say they may be in the TOP 10. So count me in the column of UNDER.

I concur. Houston should be pretty good this year

I'm pegging them right on 15.

Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

UPDATED 8/1/16
Quick reference 104 out of 128 teams selected. NOW we start the top 25

Back on track..........We will now have the TOP 25 selections that remain from Matt Murschel as we head into the last 25 days of the countdown. As it is clear to everyone, Houston is the last team standing among the G5 schools. Congratulations to them and good luck.

As it is every season it will be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Just as in years past there will be many events that can change the ability of all of our schools to perform better or worse than any off season prediction. However the most important issue that always comes into play, IMO is the mental attitude and perseverance of each teams leaders to give the team a vision and desire to strive far beyond their capabilities. I wholeheartedly hope CUSA will out perform any and all expectations as a conference and we all kick some G5 and P5 ARSSS out of conference for 2016.

Give em' Hellll... CUSA

25 Miami ACC 8-5
26 Georgia SEC 10-3
27 Penn State Big Ten 7-6
28 TCU Big 12 11-2.
29 Pittsburgh ACC 8-5
30 Washington State Pac-12 9-4
31 Western Kentucky C-USA 12-2
32 Arkansas SEC 8-5
33 Boise State Mountain West 9-4
34 Utah Pac-12 10-6
35 Nebraska Big Ten 6-7
36 Virginia Tech ACC 7-6
37 Auburn SEC 7-6
38 Washington Pac-12 7-6
39 Texas A&M SEC 8-5
40 Temple AAC 10-4
41 Air Force Mountain West 8-6
42 Arizona Pac-12 7-6
43 Mississippi State SEC 9-4
44 Western Michigan MAC 8-5
45 USF AAC 8-5
46 Central Michigan MAC 7-6
47 Texas Big 12 5-7
48 Toledo MAC 10-2
49 San Diego State Mountain West 11-3
50 Northern Illinois MAC 8-6
51 Cincinnati AAC 7-6
52 Appalachian State Sun Belt 11-2
53 Bowling Green MAC 10-4
54 South Carolina SEC 3-9
55 Southern Miss C-USA 9-5
56 Georgia Southern Sun Belt 9-4
57 Marshall C-USA 10-3
58 West Virginia Big 12 8-5
59 Minnesota Big Ten 6-7
60 Colorado State Mountain West 7-6
61 Ohio MAC 8-5
62 Memphis AAC 9-4
63 Middle Tennessee C-USA 7-6
64 NC State ACC 7-6
65 Arkansas State Sun Belt 9-4
66 Louisiana Tech C-USA 9-4
67 Navy AAC 11-2
68 Duke ACC 8-5
69 BYU Independent 9-4
70 Texas Tech Big 12 7-6
71 UConn AAC 6-7
72 Utah State Mountain West 6-7
73 Arizona State Pac-12 6-7
74 Georgia Tech ACC 3-9
75 Kansas State Big 12 6-7
76 Tulsa AAC 6-7
77 Nevada Mountain West 7-6
78 Georgia State Sun 6-7
79 Kentucky SEC 5-7
80 California Pac-12 8-5
81 Indiana Big Ten 6-7
82 East Carolina AAC 5-7
83 Boston College ACC 3-9
84 Missouri SEC 5-7
85 Fresno State Mountain West 3-9
86 Syracuse ACC 4-8
87 FAU C-USA 3-9
88 New Mexico Mountain West 7-6
89 Troy Sun Belt 4-8
90 UCF AAC 0-12
91 San Jose State Mountain West 6-7
92 Buffalo MAC 5-7
93 Vanderbilt SEC 4-8
94 Idaho Sun Belt 4-8
95 Old Dominion C-USA 5-7
96 Maryland Big Ten 3-9
97 Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt 4-8
98 Virginia ACC 5-8
99 Texas-San Antonio C-USA 3-9
100 Akron MAC 8-5
101 Rutgers Big Ten 4-8
102 Colorado Pac-12 4-9
103 Wake Forest ACC 3-9
104 Ball State MAC 3-9
105 UTEP C-USA 5-7
106 Illinois Big Ten 5-7
107 Kent State MAC 3-9
108 Rice C-USA 5-7
109 South Alabama Sun Belt 5-7
110 Eastern Michigan MAC 1-11
111 Texas State Sun Belt 3-9
112 FIU C-USA 5-7
113 UNLV Mountain West 3-9
114 Iowa State Big 12 3-9
115 Charlotte C-USA 2-10
116 Oregon State Pac-12 2-10
117 Wyoming Mountain West 2-10
118 New Mexico State Sun Belt 3-9
119 Purdue Big Ten 2-10
120 Kansas BIG 12 0-12
121 Hawaii Mountain West 3-10
122 SMU AAC 2-10
123 Louisiana-Monroe Sun Belt 2-11
124 Miami (Ohio) MAC 3-9
125 Army Independent 2-10
126 Tulane AAC 3-9
127 North Texas Conference USA 1-11
128 UMass Independent 3-9

Conference Selections (G5) [/size]
IND 3 of 4[/b] (ND, UMass, BYU, Army)
AAC 11 of 12 (Cincinnati, UConn, ECU, Houston, Memphis, Navy, USF, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UCF)
CUSA 13 of 13(*UAB, Charlotte, FAU, FIU, LA Tech, Marshall, MTSU, North Texas, ODU, Rice, Southern Miss, UTEP, UTSA, WKU)
MWC 12 of 12 (Air Force, Boise St, Color St, New Mex, Utah St, Wyoming. Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, UNLV, San Diego St, San Jose St)
MAC 12 of 12 (Akron, BGU, Buffalo, Kent St, Miami (OH), Ohio, Ball St, C Mich, E Mich, NIU, Toledo, West Mich)
Sun Belt 11 of 11(App, Geo Southern, Geo State, USA, Troy, Ark St, ULL, ULM, Texas St. @Idaho. @NM )

* CUSA Returning member in 2017
@ - Last year in SBC

P5 Conference Selections
PAC 12- 8 OF 12 (Arizona, Arizona St, Calif, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon ST, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Wash, Wash St
Big 10- 78of 14 (Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Penn State, Ohio State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin
SEC- 9 of 14 (Ala, Ark, Aub, LSU, Miss St, ,Ole Miss, Tex A&M, Flor, Geo, Kent, Missri, SC, Tenn, Vandy, )
ACC - 10 of 14 Bost Coll, Clems, Fl St, Louisv, NC St, Syrac, W Forest, Duke, Geo Tech, Miami (FL), UNC, PITT, UVA, VA Tech,
Big XII - 7 of 10 ( Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas, TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia)

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Who might be the next up from the G5's or P5's.
MY LAST 30

30 Arkansas 8-5 SEC
29 Louisville 8-5 AAC
28 Texas Tech Big XII 7-6
27 Baylor 10-3 BIG XII
26 Miami (FL) 8-5 ACC
25 Wash State 9-4 PAC
24 USC 8-6 PAC
23 Florida 10-4 SEC
22 UCLA 8-5 PAC
21 Mississippi 10-3 SEC
20 N Carolina 11-3 ACC
19 Tennessee 9-4 SEC
18 Oregon 9-4 PAC
17 LSU 9-3 SEC
16 Notre Dame 10-3 IND
15 Northwestern 10-3 BIG
14 Iowa 12-2 BIG
13 Oklahoma St 10-3 BIG XII
12 Georgia 10-3 SEC
11 Oklahoma 11-2 BIG XII
10 Michigan 10-3 BIG
9 Stanford 12-2 PAC
8 Houston 13-1 AAC
7 Wisconsin 10-3 BIG
6 Michigan St 12-2 BIG
5 TX Christian 11-2 DIG XII
4 Florida St 10-3 ACC
3 Clemson 14-1 ACC
2 Ohio State 12-1 BIG
1 Alabama 14-1 SEC

***My predictions have been all over the gambit.... and certainly not in line with the OS Countdown, but I have enjoyed posting and keeping all the information available to our other CUSA brethren. Hope everyone has enjoyed!

NEXT HIGHEST PREDICTED G5 potential PICKS(8):
8 Central Mich 7-6 (MAC)
7 S Florida 8-5 AAC
6 W Michigan 8-5 (MAC)
5 Air Force 8-6 MWC
4 Temple 10-4 AAC
3 Boise CUSA State 9-4 MWC
2 Western Kentucky CUSA 12-2
1 Houston 13-1 AAC [/b]

Highest Rated G5: #8 Houston 13-1 AAC

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

That is not beyond possibility. they have some tough games on the schedule.
I doubt Navy beats them, but losing 2 or 3 is very possible.

And the top twenty-five countdown begins -- with Miami in at 25. Here's the update.

SEC 39.25
PAC-12 47.09
B1G 49.93
ACC 51.14
BIG-12 54.95
AAC 70.38
MAC 78.25
MWC 78.92
IND 83.62
C-USA 86.15
SBC 90.18

AS OF: 8/01/16

Includes Miami at 25

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AAC needs UH pick to hold up for another 8 to 10 spots so they can get into the 60+ range.

(08-01-2016 06:39 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

That is not beyond possibility. they have some tough games on the schedule.
I doubt Navy beats them, but losing 2 or 3 is very possible.

Houston doesn't historically do well travelling that far east.

Houston has to be ranked 7 or higher to get the AAC under a 70 average.

(08-01-2016 08:40 AM)banker Wrote:  Houston has to be ranked 7 or higher to get the AAC under a 70 average.

Yep, and 8th would be 70 on the nose. Don't see it happening.

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

(08-01-2016 06:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

Well I think Houston will beat OU and go undefeated. OU will beat Ohio State and go undefeated the rest of the way. UH goes to the playoff and beats Michigan on the semifinal and Alabama in the championship game:)

(08-01-2016 08:15 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 06:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

Well I think Houston will beat OU and go undefeated. OU will beat Ohio State and go undefeated the rest of the way. UH goes to the playoff and beats Michigan on the semifinal and Alabama in the championship game:)

I would give more weight to your opinion if you were an Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, or Alabama fan.

(08-01-2016 08:15 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 06:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

Well I think Houston will beat OU and go undefeated. OU will beat Ohio State and go undefeated the rest of the way. UH goes to the playoff and beats Michigan on the semifinal and Alabama in the championship game:)

Personally, I think that would be pretty cool and I would be cheering for you under that scenario. With that said, you guys had a great year last year, but a lot of things set up in your favor. You only played one Sagarin top 30 team and that wasn't until your bowl, you had an unrepeatable + turnover margin, and you caught breaks in winning several close games.

The win over FSU was a great win for the program, but honestly, those teams always seem to come out flat against a G5 opponent even given the magnitude of the bowl. The players feel slighted, I believe, to be playing a G5 instead of being in the playoff. I believe that's why the G5 has such an outstanding record in those games and the BCS games they made. I know we like to believe that it's because the talent difference isn't all that great, but I believe it's because it's hard for a coach to get a team that was just a few plays away from being in the playoff up for what they view as a consolation prize. Conversely, for the G5 team, it's the biggest game those players will ever participate in. And yes, I would feel the same way if it was Marshall that would have won that game. If you played FSU 12 straight weeks, 3-9 would be about the best you could hope for.

(08-01-2016 10:03 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 08:15 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 06:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

Well I think Houston will beat OU and go undefeated. OU will beat Ohio State and go undefeated the rest of the way. UH goes to the playoff and beats Michigan on the semifinal and Alabama in the championship game:)

I would give more weight to your opinion if you were an Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, or Alabama fan.

I would not bet on my scenario. But One can dream...

(08-01-2016 10:06 PM)banker Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 08:15 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 06:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

Well I think Houston will beat OU and go undefeated. OU will beat Ohio State and go undefeated the rest of the way. UH goes to the playoff and beats Michigan on the semifinal and Alabama in the championship game:)

Personally, I think that would be pretty cool and I would be cheering for you under that scenario. With that said, you guys had a great year last year, but a lot of things set up in your favor. You only played one Sagarin top 30 team and that wasn't until your bowl, you had an unrepeatable + turnover margin, and you caught breaks in winning several close games.

The win over FSU was a great win for the program, but honestly, those teams always seem to come out flat against a G5 opponent even given the magnitude of the bowl. The players feel slighted, I believe, to be playing a G5 instead of being in the playoff. I believe that's why the G5 has such an outstanding record in those games and the BCS games they made. I know we like to believe that it's because the talent difference isn't all that great, but I believe it's because it's hard for a coach to get a team that was just a few plays away from being in the playoff up for what they view as a consolation prize. Conversely, for the G5 team, it's the biggest game those players will ever participate in. And yes, I would feel the same way if it was Marshall that would have won that game. If you played FSU 12 straight weeks, 3-9 would be about the best you could hope for.

You are probably right.

Houston leads the all-time series 13-2-2 vs FSU. I know it does not change your point, but I thought was a cool fact.

(08-02-2016 12:17 AM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:03 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 08:15 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 06:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

Well I think Houston will beat OU and go undefeated. OU will beat Ohio State and go undefeated the rest of the way. UH goes to the playoff and beats Michigan on the semifinal and Alabama in the championship game:)

I would give more weight to your opinion if you were an Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, or Alabama fan.

I would not bet on my scenario. But One can dream...

Ah, dreams I can understand. When you wish upon a star...

Northwestern in at 24. Here's the update.

SEC 39.07
PAC-12 46.92
B1G 50.57
ACC 51.00
BIG-12 54.80
AAC 70.34
MAC 78.25
MWC 78.92
IND 83.50
C-USA 86.15
SBC 90.18

AS OF: 8/02/16

Includes Northwestern at 24

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(08-02-2016 12:27 AM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:06 PM)banker Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 08:15 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 06:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:02 PM)banker Wrote:  Houston will lose 3 games this year and end up unranked. They may actually drop 4 if Navy can get their offense rolling.

I think so too. Houston plays OU the first game of the year.

Well I think Houston will beat OU and go undefeated. OU will beat Ohio State and go undefeated the rest of the way. UH goes to the playoff and beats Michigan on the semifinal and Alabama in the championship game:)

Personally, I think that would be pretty cool and I would be cheering for you under that scenario. With that said, you guys had a great year last year, but a lot of things set up in your favor. You only played one Sagarin top 30 team and that wasn't until your bowl, you had an unrepeatable + turnover margin, and you caught breaks in winning several close games.

The win over FSU was a great win for the program, but honestly, those teams always seem to come out flat against a G5 opponent even given the magnitude of the bowl. The players feel slighted, I believe, to be playing a G5 instead of being in the playoff. I believe that's why the G5 has such an outstanding record in those games and the BCS games they made. I know we like to believe that it's because the talent difference isn't all that great, but I believe it's because it's hard for a coach to get a team that was just a few plays away from being in the playoff up for what they view as a consolation prize. Conversely, for the G5 team, it's the biggest game those players will ever participate in. And yes, I would feel the same way if it was Marshall that would have won that game. If you played FSU 12 straight weeks, 3-9 would be about the best you could hope for.

You are probably right.

Houston leads the all-time series 13-2-2 vs FSU. I know it does not change your point, but I thought was a cool fact.

Just goes to show that timing is everything. Wonder how that record would look if you had kept playing them once Bowden was there a few years?