(04-14-2016 09:43 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  Just told Fisher may decommit from unlv.

I heard that too

Was at the gym tonite where my kid works out... A local kid that is a junior... Really good player, works out there too. I said would you play for Tubby Smith? He said "whos that". ? I said new coach at memphis... He said Yes! I said what about Pastner... He said "no... Anybody but him, i dont like him". Proves the point... Local kids want to play at Memphis. Just not for Opie.

(04-14-2016 10:26 PM)herkermer Wrote:  Was at the gym tonite where my kid works out... A local kid that is a junior... Really good player, works out there too. I said would you play for Tubby Smith? He said "whos that". ? I said new coach at memphis... He said Yes! I said what about Pastner... He said "no... Anybody but him, i dont like him". Proves the point... Local kids want to play at Memphis. Just not for Opie.

this is a thing too...

http://blu3worldorder.com/index.php/blu3...hing-to-me

The local talent coming up in the next few years will be special. If he can pull the majority of them and get them to stay here, which shouldn't be too much of an issue, we should be ok. The only question if is he can.

(04-14-2016 09:53 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:07 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  Get local talent. Make a run. Retire on top

^ This.

Unfortunately it has never worked as a recruiting model. A possible plan is to get the local kids and then find a Larry Kenon to make it all work. Or, do what Cal did and find good players and not rely on Memphis kids.

what about the '84-'85 team?

(04-14-2016 10:40 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 09:53 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:07 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  Get local talent. Make a run. Retire on top

^ This.

Unfortunately it has never worked as a recruiting model. A possible plan is to get the local kids and then find a Larry Kenon to make it all work. Or, do what Cal did and find good players and not rely on Memphis kids.

what about the '84-'85 team?

^ my thoughts, exactly...all Memphis kids.

(04-14-2016 08:54 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:07 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  Get local talent. Make a run. Retire on top

Well said and what Tubby and our fans both want to happen I think. Tubby can close out his career in style here.

Tubby can make the NCAA's with 3 one armed players and 2 broom sticks.

I like the prospects of what he can accomplish here, even if he doesn't land top 5 classes every single year.

Yes to this.

(04-14-2016 08:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  In a month to month in a half we will know everything about this staff.

We'll either look up and see 5-6 commits that make sense - Moore JCs grad trans high DI trans maybe flip a HS kid etc - or look up and see a class that is a head scratcher that fans try to talk themselves into liking.

Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

(04-14-2016 10:40 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 09:53 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:07 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  Get local talent. Make a run. Retire on top

^ This.

Unfortunately it has never worked as a recruiting model. A possible plan is to get the local kids and then find a Larry Kenon to make it all work. Or, do what Cal did and find good players and not rely on Memphis kids.

what about the '84-'85 team?

Bobby Parks was from Middleton, Keith Lee from West Memphis, and Derrick Phillips from St. Louis. Doom Haynes and Andre Turner were from Memphis. Other guys from Memphis filled the bench and helped out. Its hard to sell the Memphis guys to be the backup.

Get the top one or two from town every year and the rest from out of town. Its the University of Memphis not the University from Memphis.

(04-14-2016 11:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 08:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  In a month to month in a half we will know everything about this staff.

We'll either look up and see 5-6 commits that make sense - Moore JCs grad trans high DI trans maybe flip a HS kid etc - or look up and see a class that is a head scratcher that fans try to talk themselves into liking.

Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

You're not trying to sign Skal.

You've got roster spots and playing time.

700 transfers, 100+ are grad and immediately eligible and only use the schollie for next year.

No one is expecting a Final Four roster but jeebus, there should be SOME expectation that they can cobble together a roster.

It's not August. The second signing period JUST started.

Please go read my Northwest Tn recruiting.

(04-14-2016 11:13 PM)Smith Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 10:40 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 09:53 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 07:07 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  Get local talent. Make a run. Retire on top

^ This.

Unfortunately it has never worked as a recruiting model. A possible plan is to get the local kids and then find a Larry Kenon to make it all work. Or, do what Cal did and find good players and not rely on Memphis kids.

what about the '84-'85 team?

Bobby Parks was from Middleton, Keith Lee from West Memphis, and Derrick Phillips from St. Louis. Doom Haynes and Andre Turner were from Memphis. Other guys from Memphis filled the bench and helped out. Its hard to sell the Memphis guys to be the backup.

Get the top one or two from town every year and the rest from out of town. Its the University of Memphis not the University from Memphis.

Don't be willfully obtuse.

He obviously meant the Final Four team.

Every meaningful player was from Memphis except for Lee and you can see his high school from the downtown bluff.

(04-14-2016 10:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 10:26 PM)herkermer Wrote:  Was at the gym tonite where my kid works out... A local kid that is a junior... Really good player, works out there too. I said would you play for Tubby Smith? He said "whos that". ? I said new coach at memphis... He said Yes! I said what about Pastner... He said "no... Anybody but him, i dont like him". Proves the point... Local kids want to play at Memphis. Just not for Opie.

this is a thing too...

http://blu3worldorder.com/index.php/blu3...hing-to-me

Definitely. Not everybody can understand it if they have always lived in a world where people who look like them are always in charge. But yeah, it definitely means something to some people.

(04-14-2016 11:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 08:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  In a month to month in a half we will know everything about this staff.

We'll either look up and see 5-6 commits that make sense - Moore JCs grad trans high DI trans maybe flip a HS kid etc - or look up and see a class that is a head scratcher that fans try to talk themselves into liking.

Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

You're not trying to sign Skal.

You've got roster spots and playing time.

700 transfers, 100+ are grad and immediately eligible and only use the schollie for next year.

No one is expecting a Final Four roster but jeebus, there should be SOME expectation that they can cobble together a roster.

It's not August. The second signing period JUST started.

Fair enough. I'm confident that Tubby Smith can at the very minimum cobble together a roster.

I'm most concerned about our guard play and shooting, there are a lot of folks here who think we have some guys in the backcourt that can be pretty good, I hope Tubby can make them more productive than PASTner did.

(04-14-2016 11:35 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 08:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  In a month to month in a half we will know everything about this staff.

We'll either look up and see 5-6 commits that make sense - Moore JCs grad trans high DI trans maybe flip a HS kid etc - or look up and see a class that is a head scratcher that fans try to talk themselves into liking.

Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

You're not trying to sign Skal.

You've got roster spots and playing time.

700 transfers, 100+ are grad and immediately eligible and only use the schollie for next year.

No one is expecting a Final Four roster but jeebus, there should be SOME expectation that they can cobble together a roster.

It's not August. The second signing period JUST started.

Fair enough. I'm confident that Tubby Smith can at the very minimum cobble together a roster.

I'm most concerned about our guard play and shooting, there are a lot of folks here who think we have some guys in the backcourt that can be pretty good, I hope Tubby can make them more productive than PASTner did.

Shooting is at a premium.

Hopefully they can find a guy.

On the other hand, Jeremy Hunt shot 1000 jumpers a day the summer before his senior year.

The current guys can improve with reps and hard work.

(04-14-2016 09:43 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  Just told Fisher may decommit from unlv.

Man, talk about a blown-up roster. Those Rebels are hurtin'.....

(04-14-2016 11:35 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 08:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  In a month to month in a half we will know everything about this staff.

We'll either look up and see 5-6 commits that make sense - Moore JCs grad trans high DI trans maybe flip a HS kid etc - or look up and see a class that is a head scratcher that fans try to talk themselves into liking.

Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

You're not trying to sign Skal.

You've got roster spots and playing time.

700 transfers, 100+ are grad and immediately eligible and only use the schollie for next year.

No one is expecting a Final Four roster but jeebus, there should be SOME expectation that they can cobble together a roster.

It's not August. The second signing period JUST started.

Fair enough. I'm confident that Tubby Smith can at the very minimum cobble together a roster.

I'm most concerned about our guard play and shooting, there are a lot of folks here who think we have some guys in the backcourt that can be pretty good, I hope Tubby can make them more productive than PASTner did.

Hopes he does a better job than at TT. Last four recruiting classes have been 110th, 69th, 77th and 122nd.

(04-15-2016 07:31 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:35 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 08:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  In a month to month in a half we will know everything about this staff.

We'll either look up and see 5-6 commits that make sense - Moore JCs grad trans high DI trans maybe flip a HS kid etc - or look up and see a class that is a head scratcher that fans try to talk themselves into liking.

Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

You're not trying to sign Skal.

You've got roster spots and playing time.

700 transfers, 100+ are grad and immediately eligible and only use the schollie for next year.

No one is expecting a Final Four roster but jeebus, there should be SOME expectation that they can cobble together a roster.

It's not August. The second signing period JUST started.

Fair enough. I'm confident that Tubby Smith can at the very minimum cobble together a roster.

I'm most concerned about our guard play and shooting, there are a lot of folks here who think we have some guys in the backcourt that can be pretty good, I hope Tubby can make them more productive than PASTner did.

Hopes he does a better job at TT. Last three recruiting classes have been 69th, 77th and 122nd.

it's TT in damn Lubbock TX...that's amazing recruiting for them.

(04-15-2016 07:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 07:31 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:35 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

You're not trying to sign Skal.

You've got roster spots and playing time.

700 transfers, 100+ are grad and immediately eligible and only use the schollie for next year.

No one is expecting a Final Four roster but jeebus, there should be SOME expectation that they can cobble together a roster.

It's not August. The second signing period JUST started.

Fair enough. I'm confident that Tubby Smith can at the very minimum cobble together a roster.

I'm most concerned about our guard play and shooting, there are a lot of folks here who think we have some guys in the backcourt that can be pretty good, I hope Tubby can make them more productive than PASTner did.

Hopes he does a better job at TT. Last three recruiting classes have been 69th, 77th and 122nd.

it's TT in damn Lubbock TX...that's amazing recruiting for them.

It's also the Big 12 the top basketball Conference in America. This year's class is lower than the Tigers AFTER Moore de-committed.

(04-15-2016 07:31 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:35 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 08:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  In a month to month in a half we will know everything about this staff.

We'll either look up and see 5-6 commits that make sense - Moore JCs grad trans high DI trans maybe flip a HS kid etc - or look up and see a class that is a head scratcher that fans try to talk themselves into liking.

Kinda late in the game for a litmus test isn't it?

Hoping for the best, but expecting saviors from grad transfers is thinking like CJP. I hope we keep Moore, but it's a longshot and flipping a HS kid ... he's gonna have to be disenchanted with where he committed for some reason.

You're not trying to sign Skal.

You've got roster spots and playing time.

700 transfers, 100+ are grad and immediately eligible and only use the schollie for next year.

No one is expecting a Final Four roster but jeebus, there should be SOME expectation that they can cobble together a roster.

It's not August. The second signing period JUST started.

Fair enough. I'm confident that Tubby Smith can at the very minimum cobble together a roster.

I'm most concerned about our guard play and shooting, there are a lot of folks here who think we have some guys in the backcourt that can be pretty good, I hope Tubby can make them more productive than PASTner did.

Hopes he does a better job than at TT. Last four recruiting classes have been 110th, 69th, 77th and 122nd.

What's more important is that Tubby beat ranked teams with that roster & made the NCAA tourney while our coach had difficulty making the tourney with top 10 recruits.