(12-03-2015 04:07 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 03:07 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 01:58 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:59 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 11:35 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  Look at the bright side. At least we're not 2-4 Wichita State.

A lot of the one's that gave up their tickets want Gregg Marshall as our coach. They would be the ones calling for his head right now at 2-4.

I'll take him in a New York minute over Pastner. A final 4 and an unbeaten season.


That was too easy

Marshall would be undefeated with this team right now and AN would still be here!!


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Well, it's only Marshall's fault he didn't recruit these guys. Just using MTO logic here.

(12-03-2015 02:25 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 01:58 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:59 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 11:35 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:42 PM)tigergg Wrote:  People ain't coming back until Pastner is no longer at the helm.. Has nothing to do with anything else.. When you have season ticket holders who have been holders for 25 plus years giving them up, there is a major problem, and It doesn't take a scientist to figure out why!!


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Look at the bright side. At least we're not 2-4 Wichita State.

A lot of the one's that gave up their tickets want Gregg Marshall as our coach. They would be the ones calling for his head right now at 2-4.

I'll take him in a New York minute over Pastner. A final 4 and an unbeaten season.


That was too easy

I am not saying he would not make us a good coach when and if we replace Pastner. All I am saying most of the posters here would be calling for his head. He is 2-4 and was beaten by Tulsa by 10 and Iowa by 23. Plus he has lost 3 in a row.

"That was too easy".

Well we know your ilk wouldn't. Y'all are satisified with a round of 32 exit being the ceiling here.


Too easy

Faulty logic - he wouldn't be 2-4 here.

For all of the positives of Wichita - paying him a big contract, private jet, Koch support, etc. - he still has issues recruiting good talent there. It's not an ideal league for high caliber talent to flock to.

Memphis would be another story - as an writer wrote a few years back - Gregg Marshall would be a perfect fit here - "Memphis is Wichita on steroids."

(12-02-2015 02:26 PM)memphomike Wrote:  Those staying home are missing a team hustle and scrap. This team gets up and down the court and is fun to watch. Lawson has skills we haven't seen here since Penny. These kids deserve support MEMPHIS.

Dedric is without a doubt the most skilled player 6'8" plus we have had SINCE Penny. This means after Penny. I posted this last winter after seeing him up close vs #1 Oak Hill.

He can take off and dribble the floor and do a crossover and then a finger roll bucket.
He can also get a little sky hook on post up that he hasn't used much.
He can drive hard to hoop and not get bullied.
He can shoot the 3. Maybe 38-40 percent range once he settles down and improves shot selection.

No other comparably sized player since Penny could do those things. He will have ups and downs as a high school college freshman and needs to quit dominating the ball and let the O come to him. He will be a star.

(12-03-2015 05:30 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 02:26 PM)memphomike Wrote:  Those staying home are missing a team hustle and scrap. This team gets up and down the court and is fun to watch. Lawson has skills we haven't seen here since Penny. These kids deserve support MEMPHIS.

Dedric is without a doubt the most skilled player 6'8" plus we have had SINCE Penny. This means after Penny. I posted this last winter after seeing him up close vs #1 Oak Hill.

He can take off and dribble the floor and do a crossover and then a finger roll bucket.
He can also get a little sky hook on post up that he hasn't used much.
He can drive hard to hoop and not get bullied.
He can shoot the 3. Maybe 38-40 percent range once he settles down and improves shot selection.

No other comparably sized player since Penny could do those things. He will have ups and downs as a high school college freshman and needs to quit dominating the ball and let the O come to him. He will be a star.

I noticed against LA Tech he did that two or three times and wondered where that had been through the first few games and hope he will continue to use that move more often.

(12-03-2015 05:30 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 02:26 PM)memphomike Wrote:  Those staying home are missing a team hustle and scrap. This team gets up and down the court and is fun to watch. Lawson has skills we haven't seen here since Penny. These kids deserve support MEMPHIS.

Dedric is without a doubt the most skilled player 6'8" plus we have had SINCE Penny. This means after Penny. I posted this last winter after seeing him up close vs #1 Oak Hill.

He can take off and dribble the floor and do a crossover and then a finger roll bucket.
He can also get a little sky hook on post up that he hasn't used much.
He can drive hard to hoop and not get bullied.
He can shoot the 3. Maybe 38-40 percent range once he settles down and improves shot selection.

No other comparably sized player since Penny could do those things. He will have ups and downs as a high school college freshman and needs to quit dominating the ball and let the O come to him. He will be a star.

Shawne williams could do all those things.

(12-03-2015 05:04 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Faulty logic - he wouldn't be 2-4 here.

For all of the positives of Wichita - paying him a big contract, private jet, Koch support, etc. - he still has issues recruiting good talent there. It's not an ideal league for high caliber talent to flock to.

Memphis would be another story - as an writer wrote a few years back - Gregg Marshall would be a perfect fit here - "Memphis is Wichita on steroids."

Faulty logic?

Why are some of you so eager to defend your faulty logic that you'll use any thread, regardless of its stated purpose, to disparage the current coach of the Tigers?

(12-03-2015 06:16 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 05:04 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Faulty logic - he wouldn't be 2-4 here.

For all of the positives of Wichita - paying him a big contract, private jet, Koch support, etc. - he still has issues recruiting good talent there. It's not an ideal league for high caliber talent to flock to.

Memphis would be another story - as an writer wrote a few years back - Gregg Marshall would be a perfect fit here - "Memphis is Wichita on steroids."

Faulty logic?

Why are some of you so eager to defend your faulty logic that you'll use any thread, regardless of its stated purpose, to disparage the current coach of the Tigers?

Maybe we just like guys that have had REAL success instead of a coach who's team underachieved its ranking 6 straight years ?

(12-03-2015 06:43 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 06:16 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 05:04 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Faulty logic - he wouldn't be 2-4 here.

For all of the positives of Wichita - paying him a big contract, private jet, Koch support, etc. - he still has issues recruiting good talent there. It's not an ideal league for high caliber talent to flock to.

Memphis would be another story - as an writer wrote a few years back - Gregg Marshall would be a perfect fit here - "Memphis is Wichita on steroids."

Faulty logic?

Why are some of you so eager to defend your faulty logic that you'll use any thread, regardless of its stated purpose, to disparage the current coach of the Tigers?

Maybe we just like guys that have had REAL success instead of a coach who's team underachieved its ranking 6 straight years ?

Maybe because we know these players would be so much better and achieve so much more if Pastner wasn't the head of it.. But what do I know I dropped my season tickets and only watched them play 1/2 of a game this year..


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(12-03-2015 06:43 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 06:16 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 05:04 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Faulty logic - he wouldn't be 2-4 here.

For all of the positives of Wichita - paying him a big contract, private jet, Koch support, etc. - he still has issues recruiting good talent there. It's not an ideal league for high caliber talent to flock to.

Memphis would be another story - as an writer wrote a few years back - Gregg Marshall would be a perfect fit here - "Memphis is Wichita on steroids."

Faulty logic?

Why are some of you so eager to defend your faulty logic that you'll use any thread, regardless of its stated purpose, to disparage the current coach of the Tigers?

Maybe we just like guys that have had REAL success instead of a coach who's team underachieved its ranking 6 straight years ?

How do I know that you would be the first to chime in with more faulty logic.

(12-03-2015 05:30 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 02:26 PM)memphomike Wrote:  Those staying home are missing a team hustle and scrap. This team gets up and down the court and is fun to watch. Lawson has skills we haven't seen here since Penny. These kids deserve support MEMPHIS.

Dedric is without a doubt the most skilled player 6'8" plus we have had SINCE Penny. This means after Penny. I posted this last winter after seeing him up close vs #1 Oak Hill.

He can take off and dribble the floor and do a crossover and then a finger roll bucket.
He can also get a little sky hook on post up that he hasn't used much.
He can drive hard to hoop and not get bullied.
He can shoot the 3. Maybe 38-40 percent range once he settles down and improves shot selection.

No other comparably sized player since Penny could do those things. He will have ups and downs as a high school college freshman and needs to quit dominating the ball and let the O come to him. He will be a star.

One thing Penny had that Lawson is nowhere near is athleticism...

This is why Lawson will be back next year and probably the following year as well.

(12-03-2015 07:05 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 05:30 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 02:26 PM)memphomike Wrote:  Those staying home are missing a team hustle and scrap. This team gets up and down the court and is fun to watch. Lawson has skills we haven't seen here since Penny. These kids deserve support MEMPHIS.

Dedric is without a doubt the most skilled player 6'8" plus we have had SINCE Penny. This means after Penny. I posted this last winter after seeing him up close vs #1 Oak Hill.

He can take off and dribble the floor and do a crossover and then a finger roll bucket.
He can also get a little sky hook on post up that he hasn't used much.
He can drive hard to hoop and not get bullied.
He can shoot the 3. Maybe 38-40 percent range once he settles down and improves shot selection.

No other comparably sized player since Penny could do those things. He will have ups and downs as a high school college freshman and needs to quit dominating the ball and let the O come to him. He will be a star.

One thing Penny had that Lawson is nowhere near is athleticism...

This is why Lawson will be back next year and probably the following year as well.

Why does everyone keep comparing to Penny? OP said SINCE Penny; I said same. Penny is a first team all NBA player and a once in 10 years point guard. Simmons at LSU may be one too.

Dedric is just a dang good freshman.

(12-03-2015 03:07 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 01:58 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:59 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 11:35 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:42 PM)tigergg Wrote:  People ain't coming back until Pastner is no longer at the helm.. Has nothing to do with anything else.. When you have season ticket holders who have been holders for 25 plus years giving them up, there is a major problem, and It doesn't take a scientist to figure out why!!


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Look at the bright side. At least we're not 2-4 Wichita State.

A lot of the one's that gave up their tickets want Gregg Marshall as our coach. They would be the ones calling for his head right now at 2-4.

I'll take him in a New York minute over Pastner. A final 4 and an unbeaten season.


That was too easy

Marshall would be undefeated with this team right now and AN would still be here!!


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AN would absolutely NOT be here. Very personal.

(12-03-2015 08:58 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 03:07 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 01:58 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:59 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 11:35 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  Look at the bright side. At least we're not 2-4 Wichita State.

A lot of the one's that gave up their tickets want Gregg Marshall as our coach. They would be the ones calling for his head right now at 2-4.

I'll take him in a New York minute over Pastner. A final 4 and an unbeaten season.


That was too easy

Marshall would be undefeated with this team right now and AN would still be here!!


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AN would absolutely NOT be here. Very personal.

If Marshall was the Coach this year he would absolutely be here.. Fact.. My sister is friends with him so I don't think he lied to her about why things happened the way they did!!


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(12-03-2015 09:42 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 08:58 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 03:07 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 01:58 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:59 PM)2tigers Wrote:  A lot of the one's that gave up their tickets want Gregg Marshall as our coach. They would be the ones calling for his head right now at 2-4.

I'll take him in a New York minute over Pastner. A final 4 and an unbeaten season.


That was too easy

Marshall would be undefeated with this team right now and AN would still be here!!


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AN would absolutely NOT be here. Very personal.

If Marshall was the Coach this year he would absolutely be here.. Fact.. My sister is friends with him so I don't think he lied to her about why things happened the way they did!!


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Last post ever on AN leaving. He wouldn't be here if Coach K came

(12-02-2015 11:35 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:42 PM)tigergg Wrote:  People ain't coming back until Pastner is no longer at the helm.. Has nothing to do with anything else.. When you have season ticket holders who have been holders for 25 plus years giving them up, there is a major problem, and It doesn't take a scientist to figure out why!!


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Look at the bright side. At least we're not 2-4 Wichita State.

Make that 17-6 Wichita, 1st place in the Missouri Valley, ranked 25th and Lunardi has them as a 7 seed.

BOOM

(12-03-2015 01:12 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:59 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 11:35 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:42 PM)tigergg Wrote:  People ain't coming back until Pastner is no longer at the helm.. Has nothing to do with anything else.. When you have season ticket holders who have been holders for 25 plus years giving them up, there is a major problem, and It doesn't take a scientist to figure out why!!


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Look at the bright side. At least we're not 2-4 Wichita State.

A lot of the one's that gave up their tickets want Gregg Marshall as our coach. They would be the ones calling for his head right now at 2-4.

Does a win over Emporia State even count?

Not sure, but he's about to go to his 5th straight NCAA tournament at Wichita State. He's coming off 3 30 win seasons, a Final Four, and a #1 seed. And he's done it without one single McDonald's All-American and not many 4-5 stars, if any.

Any other questions about his resume?

Another example of recruiting rankings gone bad. Maybe no 5 stars, but one of the best backcourts in college basketball. I think Marshall jumps to a big job this year, because he knows he never gets another backcourt like that at WSU. But the job won't be Memphis.

(02-09-2016 05:55 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Another example of recruiting rankings gone bad. Maybe no 5 stars, but one of the best backcourts in college basketball. I think Marshall jumps to a big job this year, because he knows he never gets another backcourt like that at WSU. But the job won't be Memphis.

I won't be surprised.

I think he's discovered that no matter how many 30 win season he strings together at Wichita that recruiting will always be a challenge for whatever reasons.

(12-03-2015 08:58 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 03:07 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 01:58 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 12:59 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 11:35 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  Look at the bright side. At least we're not 2-4 Wichita State.

A lot of the one's that gave up their tickets want Gregg Marshall as our coach. They would be the ones calling for his head right now at 2-4.

I'll take him in a New York minute over Pastner. A final 4 and an unbeaten season.


That was too easy

Marshall would be undefeated with this team right now and AN would still be here!!


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AN would absolutely NOT be here. Very personal.

You really think Nichols would have left if we were a perennial sweet sixteen team, and his NBA stock were on the line, whatever the reason is he left?

I don't.