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Quote:PJ is not going to a Rutgers or Illinois type program. He is setting his next move to be to mid to high level P5 job. Someplace like Oklahoma St. or Tennessee. Someplace with a winning tradition.

I dunno. I could see him wanting Illinois if Illinois opened their gates up like WMU did for a new, young coach. He's from the state -- he probably looks at it a bit differently. However, chances are Small Illinois will have an opportunity open for him, as Illinois is likely to be going shopping at the end of this year, while we're 7-5... and Illinois already taking a MAC West coach a bit early and feeling the consequences of that (Beckman HC) isn't all great in their mind. However, if Beckman somehow squeezes out a 7-6 season this year, he could stay for an extra year -- and that may open it up.

Rutgers? Again, too soon. I agree with you that...

Quote:Fleck will win big next year then take his staff to the money land.

... it'll be next year, as next year is the Year of the Bronco (not just on Chinese restaurant placemats). I don't see anyone picking him up at 7-6 this year, with only 3 years of HC experience under his belt, as that hasn't proven to be the greatest hiring move out the MAC in the last 10 years. When we get 9/10/11 wins next year and very well make the MAC Champ Game, yeah, he's gone before bowl time. But money land+open for motif change at a school doesn't = big-time-tradition school.

Quote:No, he will not settle for Vanderbuilt, Duke, Indiana, Purdue, or a Wake Forest.

I agree for the most part, unless those are the only offers and they have $$ flashing. Purdue though would be legit enough & considerable. His midwest base, and unlike Indiana, do have a history of being a decent team -- just not anytime lately after they stopped hiring guys with moustaches. Illinois & Rutgers have familiarity to him, and he wouldn't not want to go there if the freedom & $$ were in order. I think with him, he'd want a program to open up it's flood gates to Change, much like he's done at WMU. That is key for him, and that's how he operates best anyway.

And a new coach, say going:
1-11
8-5
7-6
11-3 --> With 4 years under his belt to make up for no OC/DC experience of the past and learning the Hard Way* in his first year... a non-historical P5 program who's been down the last several years I think would be open to have him free-wheel for change with a more open checkbook. And I think he'd love to take up that challenge.

I however, Want to more agree with you. If it's like you say it is, he'd be Skipping the step that former CMU coaches did, going to Cinci before going to ND & Tennessee. Or skipping the step that Urban Meyer did going from BGSU->Utah (a high Mountain West team). That means PJ will NOT go to a bigtime school after next year given it just being a 4th year experience and being just above .500 due to the abysmal 1st year.

I would say PJ would be around for about 6+ years if that's the case. However, I think a Purdue/Rutgers/Illinois/Virginia/etc will open things up for Change to entice him, for that mid-level step TO make their program one of the big ones. However, wouldn't shock me if due to lack of timing & opps, he stays and aims to go from WMU->Stanford or something.


*Hard Way - NIU reference, his homeland

(08-27-2015 11:37 AM)DrDavis Wrote:  PJ is not going to a Rutgers or Illinois type program. He is setting his next move to be to mid to high level P5 job. Someplace like Oklahoma St. or Tennessee. Someplace with a winning tradition.

No, he will not settle for Vanderbuilt, Duke, Indiana, Purdue, or a Wake Forest.

Fleck will win big next year then take his staff to the money land.

You heard it here first.

Whether it's at the end of this year, next year, or whenever the timing is right... I completely agree. I think he goes much bigger.

(08-27-2015 12:10 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:37 AM)DrDavis Wrote:  PJ is not going to a Rutgers or Illinois type program. He is setting his next move to be to mid to high level P5 job. Someplace like Oklahoma St. or Tennessee. Someplace with a winning tradition.

No, he will not settle for Vanderbuilt, Duke, Indiana, Purdue, or a Wake Forest.

Fleck will win big next year then take his staff to the money land.

You heard it here first.

Whether it's at the end of this year, next year, or whenever the timing is right... I completely agree. I think he goes much bigger.

Yes. The Admiral is going to be extremely successful in the future and hopefully we look back on his tenure at WMU as a great era, when it's all said and done.

#RTB

(08-27-2015 12:25 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:10 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:37 AM)DrDavis Wrote:  PJ is not going to a Rutgers or Illinois type program. He is setting his next move to be to mid to high level P5 job. Someplace like Oklahoma St. or Tennessee. Someplace with a winning tradition.

No, he will not settle for Vanderbuilt, Duke, Indiana, Purdue, or a Wake Forest.

Fleck will win big next year then take his staff to the money land.

You heard it here first.

Whether it's at the end of this year, next year, or whenever the timing is right... I completely agree. I think he goes much bigger.

Yes. The Admiral is going to be extremely successful in the future and hopefully we look back on his tenure at WMU as a great era, when it's all said and done.

#RTB

I predict #brocoach will be much like Boise State's Hawkins. It'll be a trip hearing him on ESPN3 broadcasts years from now.

Quote:I predict #brocoach will be much like Boise State's Hawkins. It'll be a trip hearing him on ESPN3 broadcasts years from now.

Not a chance. The broadcast business is not centric enough for PJ.

As stated ready you don't "skip the step" from a low level conference job. Top 20 ADs don't need to dive down that far.

PJs next step is low (not miserable) P5. So as mentioned Illinois/Rutgers types. Teams that bowl a little less often than they don't. But not a rare bowl program like Indiana.

Or

PJ will go the better program outside of the P5. An American East program, WAC type team. Preferably one that's in good shape whose coaches moved up to a P5. The Cincy path of Jones and Kelly is the example. A job like Houston or my best guess is UCF.

(08-27-2015 05:35 PM)Doo Wrote:  As stated ready you don't "skip the step" from a low level conference job. Top 20 ADs don't need to dive down that far.

Oops!

(08-27-2015 05:49 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 05:35 PM)Doo Wrote:  As stated ready you don't "skip the step" from a low level conference job. Top 20 ADs don't need to dive down that far.

Oops!

Tressel was never a low level FBS head coach. He was a MULTI-National championship coach.