http://www.wataugademocrat.com/sports/co...12a6e.html

Quote:Gillin said that several issues, including increased travel costs, will have to be addressed in the future, many that could be expensive. He talked about the recent ruling by the NCAA that is called “Cost of Attendance,” which is legislation that allows schools to pay student-athletes a stipend during the school year.

Gillin said the overall cost to Appalachian State would likely be up to $765,000 per year, which breaks down to about $3,400 per player per year for 225 scholarships
Gillin cautioned that those are figures that are not necessarily the final word. He said he’s been working with Appalachian State Chancellor Sheri Everts on the issue, but the numbers could change.

“It’s just information,” Gillin said. “It is no way in any shape or form more than that. If we want to do this, it would cost up to $765,000 this year. I have not until this minute in this meeting come out in public and talked about this on purpose. I wanted to make sure the chancellor and I were on the same page with it.”

Gillin said the athletic department would not be paying cost of attendance for this academic season, but would start in the 2016-17 season.

“I’ve also talked to the coaches,” he said. “We are not planning to do anything on cost of attendance until 2016. In 2016-17, we absolutely must do something with cost of attendance.”

3400 per year
Is that on par with the rest of the sbc or is all the numbers not in yet?

That's probably on the low side.Troy is 4400-4900 depending if in state or out of state.Not sure if they will average the two or what....ULL is 5200+ and GS is higher still......

It sounded low to me at 1700 per semester.
it seems 2500 a semester should be the low end. Or as a conference agree to 2500 each semester.

I think ours is somewhere around 5500 a year. The last I heard we were going to pay a portion of it this year-- I have heard 75% which would be around 4k this year. I think the plan is to fully pay it in 2016-17.

(06-28-2015 09:02 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I think ours is somewhere around 5500 a year. The last I heard we were going to pay a portion of it this year-- I have heard 75% which would be around 4k this year. I think the plan is to fully pay it in 2016-17.

All sports?

It will be interesting to see what happens now that bama has upped their coa. If it goes over without any uproar then perhaps the bidding war will begin.

(06-28-2015 09:28 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  It will be interesting to see what happens now that bama has upped their coa. If it goes over without any uproar then perhaps the bidding war will begin.

I don't think any one needs a crystal ball to know that was coming when this was agreed to. The reason I have always been against "FCOA".

As far as I know we are going to pay it for all scholarship sports. At 4K I think it would be a price tag of close to 1 mil

(06-28-2015 09:44 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  As far as I know we are going to pay it for all scholarship sports. At 4K I think it would be a price tag of close to 1 mil

Which is why I believe it's smart at this point to get to 12, have divisions, and reduce travel costs to off set COA. . . .

I agree. I think our plan is to keep what we pay competitive with other schools in the Belt and schools with are competing with for recruits.

So going forward I could see us paying less than the full COA but from all I have heard we are going to pay most of it. I would have no problem if we just stayed at 66%-75%

It will be a royal mess if some uniformity isn't aligned.Alabama was at like 2800 last I checked......they have raised it? Not surprising

Unless I misunderstood what our AD said here the COA is a Federal number and the schools can't change it. They can however choose how much of it they are willing to pay. Each school will get a different number based on location and other factors. With G5 schools being able to choose anywhere from 0 to 100% while other A5 (Autonomous) being forced to pay something because they've voted it in as mandatory.

A State will be paying full COA of just under 4500 for all sports and he said the cost was around 860k and if I'm not mistaken they will be paying it '15-'16.

(06-29-2015 12:12 AM)RedWolf_Rex Wrote:  Unless I misunderstood what our AD said here the COA is a Federal number and the schools can't change it. They can however choose how much of it they are willing to pay. Each school will get a different number based on location and other factors. With G5 schools being able to choose anywhere from 0 to 100% while other A5 (Autonomous) being forced to pay something because they've voted it in as mandatory.

A State will be paying full COA of just under 4500 for all sports and he said the cost was around 860k and if I'm not mistaken they will be paying it '15-'16.

Correct. Federal guidelines indicate the maximum. But schools can pay less. There won't be a price war because each school has a ceiling based location and quite frankly what's already being provided to students at s given school prior to COA. In our case at App, the most we can pay is $3,400.

Won't be a price war because everyone has a number that gets them to full cost of attendance, and they are all going to be different.

(06-29-2015 12:28 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 12:12 AM)RedWolf_Rex Wrote:  Unless I misunderstood what our AD said here the COA is a Federal number and the schools can't change it. They can however choose how much of it they are willing to pay. Each school will get a different number based on location and other factors. With G5 schools being able to choose anywhere from 0 to 100% while other A5 (Autonomous) being forced to pay something because they've voted it in as mandatory.

A State will be paying full COA of just under 4500 for all sports and he said the cost was around 860k and if I'm not mistaken they will be paying it '15-'16.

Correct. Federal guidelines indicate the maximum. But schools can pay less. There won't be a price war because each school has a ceiling based location and quite frankly what's already being provided to students at s given school prior to COA. In our case at App, the most we can pay is $3,400.

Won't be a price war because everyone has a number that gets them to full cost of attendance, and they are all going to be different.

Thanks, It just seemed like some of the posts were acting as if there would be some process in which teams would start throwing piles of cash around. If Bama announced 2800 what is their federal cap? I can't imagine after being one of the bigger supporters of paying players they are low balling like that.

(06-29-2015 12:28 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 12:12 AM)RedWolf_Rex Wrote:  Unless I misunderstood what our AD said here the COA is a Federal number and the schools can't change it. They can however choose how much of it they are willing to pay. Each school will get a different number based on location and other factors. With G5 schools being able to choose anywhere from 0 to 100% while other A5 (Autonomous) being forced to pay something because they've voted it in as mandatory.

A State will be paying full COA of just under 4500 for all sports and he said the cost was around 860k and if I'm not mistaken they will be paying it '15-'16.

Correct. Federal guidelines indicate the maximum. But schools can pay less. There won't be a price war because each school has a ceiling based location and quite frankly what's already being provided to students at s given school prior to COA. In our case at App, the most we can pay is $3,400.

Won't be a price war because everyone has a number that gets them to full cost of attendance, and they are all going to be different.

So we can tell recruits that they are going to get $2,100 more per year to come play at Southern than App State? That might help close the GA/NC Border It might sound crazy, but a couple of grand can mean a lot to a kid who has never seen that kind of money.

This cannot last if some schools are paying athletes at a different rate by sport. Lawsuits will pile up.

Thos fcoa can be manipulated in the future to increase payouts. Our AD has already said that other schools have fudged numbers in the past to make them look more affordable. GS currently has the highest coa around 8500. We can't afford that but if we can pay even half we will be in good shape. I see P5 schools fcoa changing quickly next year.

(06-29-2015 12:28 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 12:12 AM)RedWolf_Rex Wrote:  Unless I misunderstood what our AD said here the COA is a Federal number and the schools can't change it. They can however choose how much of it they are willing to pay. Each school will get a different number based on location and other factors. With G5 schools being able to choose anywhere from 0 to 100% while other A5 (Autonomous) being forced to pay something because they've voted it in as mandatory.

A State will be paying full COA of just under 4500 for all sports and he said the cost was around 860k and if I'm not mistaken they will be paying it '15-'16.

Correct. Federal guidelines indicate the maximum. But schools can pay less. There won't be a price war because each school has a ceiling based location and quite frankly what's already being provided to students at s given school prior to COA. In our case at App, the most we can pay is $3,400.

Won't be a price war because everyone has a number that gets them to full cost of attendance, and they are all going to be different.

We're not paying full cost of attendance. We're paying about 95 percent of it. If I recall correctly, the school chose to pay 4K per to even the numbers out a bit.

(06-29-2015 01:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 12:28 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 12:12 AM)RedWolf_Rex Wrote:  Unless I misunderstood what our AD said here the COA is a Federal number and the schools can't change it. They can however choose how much of it they are willing to pay. Each school will get a different number based on location and other factors. With G5 schools being able to choose anywhere from 0 to 100% while other A5 (Autonomous) being forced to pay something because they've voted it in as mandatory.

A State will be paying full COA of just under 4500 for all sports and he said the cost was around 860k and if I'm not mistaken they will be paying it '15-'16.

Correct. Federal guidelines indicate the maximum. But schools can pay less. There won't be a price war because each school has a ceiling based location and quite frankly what's already being provided to students at s given school prior to COA. In our case at App, the most we can pay is $3,400.

Won't be a price war because everyone has a number that gets them to full cost of attendance, and they are all going to be different.

So we can tell recruits that they are going to get $2,100 more per year to come play at Southern than App State? That might help close the GA/NC Border It might sound crazy, but a couple of grand can mean a lot to a kid who has never seen that kind of money.

It won't be that simple. It has to do with cost of living in your schools area and what is already provided to students. To get to 100% cost of attendance, it takes $5k for GS let's say... for App, it takes $3.4k. All that means is it costs GA Southern more Money to get to 100% than App for various reasons. In the an under either case, the student gets 100% COA.