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RE: AAC/MWC Merger: The Real Advantage
(06-02-2015 10:17 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote: (06-02-2015 07:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (06-02-2015 05:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote: Lets just take the American as it is now:
School Market
UConn Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston Houston, Texas #10
SMU Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa Tulsa, Oklahoma #60
Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.
NIU Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7
UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.
Your Divisions would look like this:
East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy
North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU
South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB
West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa
The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.
Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about.
gawd no.....SMH
2nd that...gawd no. No offense but not all big markets mean everything. GA State already shares Atlanta with GA Tech. NIU can't even average 20k in a bcs run. UAB recently shut down the program for lack of support. Umass could have future potential but that is a high risk addition.
ODU is one that has potential to me who can actually sell out a small stadium every game.
NIU averaged 13k per game last season due to probably the worst home schedule in the country. The prior 4-5 years, they have averaged around 20k or more per game.
It looks to me that SMU, Temple, Tulane, and Tulsa ALL averaged around the same attendance as NIU so don't get too c*cky over there.
(06-02-2015 10:22 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote: (06-02-2015 07:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (06-02-2015 05:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote: Lets just take the American as it is now:
School Market
UConn Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston Houston, Texas #10
SMU Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa Tulsa, Oklahoma #60
Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.
NIU Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7
UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.
Your Divisions would look like this:
East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy
North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU
South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB
West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa
The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.
Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about.
gawd no.....SMH
2nd that...gawd no. No offense but not all big markets mean everything. GA State already shares Atlanta with GA Tech. NIU can't even average 20k in a bcs run. UAB recently shut down the program for lack of support. Umass could have future potential but that is a high risk addition.
ODU is one that has potential to me who can actually sell out a small stadium every game.
Also, in regards to your BCS Bowl appearance, you do not have much room to talk regarding attendance...
"The announced attendance was 65,172, the smallest since the Fiesta Bowl moved to University of Phoenix Stadium in 2007. Despite 5,000 returned tickets by Baylor, green-and-gold fans were well represented. Still, the matchup failed to spark interest in the Valley of the Sun."
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...a-bowl.ece
The 2012 Orange Bowl had an attendance over 72k including 15-20k NIU fans.
They dont wanna hear the truth and valid reasons as to why attendance was the way it was at that time, they wanna stick their heads in the sand and scream "lalalalalaNIUattendancewillalwaysbehorriblelalalalala"
*not all of you think that, but some of you despite being shown facts are stuck with your "narratives" like some uniformed sports fans*
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