L-Yes, only people with IQ's of 200 or greater can understand TST. You don't want to get on his bad side. If you do, he will point the top of his huge head, that house his gigantic brain, towards you & melt you with brain waves.

Bricky its time for you and your non-bcs program to go back to its quaint location on the nc coast and to deal with your long term stay in the swamps of cusa.

goodknightfl Wrote:To be honest I dont know what I think of MT. I think he made the best of what he had to deal with in the aftermath of the ACC raid. The BE needed to make changes before the raid... and didnt... I dont know how much of that was MT's fault.. and how much was the fault of the college prez's involved. I know UM was pushing for changes for a few years before the break ups .... and most of the School prez's didnt want to do that... how much if any influence Mt had on that issue at the time.. I dont know.

The presidents counted on MT to be a leader that what they pay him for. He has not leaded or guides the conference but react. Every president has their own job to do running own institution.

MT pretend not to know but he was the one that form football sport for the Big East so that Syracuse, BCU and Pittsburg have somebody to play with after he fail to sell the ideal to ACC of forming football league with them. After the formation of BEFB league more work have to be done but to do so will affect other of the Big East that don

Your description seems to say there are golden opportunities that are significantly better(the league is already bcs, and has a good tv package) than the current one.However,this is far from the case.

MT is a goofy looking midget, but I'm not sure what else he could have done under the circumstances.

After the "ACC raid", his main goals has always been to keep the league together and keep the BCS bid. He accomplished both of those goals.

It seems silly to say that keeping BCSlstatus and signing a major tv package for bb and football are just staying together.

MT was caught sleeping at the wheel when the ACC raided the BE. There were plenty of rumblings before that time and MT did nothing about it.
He has done a good job in getting additions to strengthen the league. But the facts are that it has been the football coaches and players of the new BE that allowed the league to retain its BCS status.
The major TV contract is OK but is funny how we still dont know the dollars amount for football and basketball.
The problem i see with MT is that he has two different sets of schools to serve over and you cant please both sides. The Big East went thru this once before now we are back to square one.

There are defintely two sets of agendas with this league, but that's no secret. He's the commissioner for the entire league. He can't do anything that is going to hurt the non-FB schools.

Gray Avenger Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:GA, if the BCS only adds a 7th league and caps it, you better hope they aren't adding a 7th league anytime in the remote future. If they do, it won't be CUSA. That isn't a biased comment, look at the numbers.

Winning won't be the only thing looked at (as BE fans are glad to know), but as far as that goes, we will be back up to speed soon enough. C-USA has plenty of football schools that have tasted Top 25 success in their history and the uncharacteristic mediocrity of the last couple of years will be seen as the abberation that it is.

CollegeCard, what numbers are you referring to? The Mountain West is NOT a realistic option as a 7th BCS league. I don't know if you realize this or not, but the Pac 10 has looked at expansion before. Don't be surprised if the Pac 10 decides to revisit that issue, and decides to expand again. When the Pac 10 does expand again, the MWC will be toast.

And Memphis is the same size as Louisville while Central Florida is one of the 10 largest US universities! Just some more fuel for the fire!

If your agenda is to split the BE and fill up with cusa leftovers then you hate MT.

tigersharktwo Wrote:If your agenda is to split the BE and fill up with cusa leftovers then you hate MT.

No, Tigershark. I just hate him for not making UC/WVU a mirror game lmfao

DawgNBama Wrote:

Gray Avenger Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:GA, if the BCS only adds a 7th league and caps it, you better hope they aren't adding a 7th league anytime in the remote future. If they do, it won't be CUSA. That isn't a biased comment, look at the numbers.

Winning won't be the only thing looked at (as BE fans are glad to know), but as far as that goes, we will be back up to speed soon enough. C-USA has plenty of football schools that have tasted Top 25 success in their history and the uncharacteristic mediocrity of the last couple of years will be seen as the abberation that it is.

CollegeCard, what numbers are you referring to? The Mountain West is NOT a realistic option as a 7th BCS league. I don't know if you realize this or not, but the Pac 10 has looked at expansion before. Don't be surprised if the Pac 10 decides to revisit that issue, and decides to expand again. When the Pac 10 does expand again, the MWC will be toast.

I'm simply referring to the BCS qualifying components. Also to national media & fan respect, etc. I agree that the MWC is not getting an auto bid in their current format or next year when judged. They are however above CUSA. I don't believe CUSA has ever finished above the MWC in league history in terms of the computers, and CUSA hasn't had a ranked team (ignoring someone at 25th for a week maybe) since UofL, UC, USF, and TCU left. The recognition is fading fast from the appearance, but they still have the Fiesta Bowl title from the Utes, while CUSA is plodding along and needs to step it back up. CUSA has had many years where their champ was better than anyone the MWC could offer up, but the bottom of CUSA has always held it down and still does. The additional negative is that since UofL left in '04 there isn't even a top team to catch media attention.

Understatement of the decade, but its not good when the league champ (Houston) is losing at home to the 6th place Sun Belt team (La-Lafayette), a team who was just demolished by a combined 96-10 against LSU & A&M last season.

I think we agree a 7th isn't being added soon. If forced however, I just don't see how CUSA would be the 7th. They do have media markets on their side and some teams can only go up, so down the road (a long one), it could happen for them.

BJUnklFkr Wrote:

tigersharktwo Wrote:If your agenda is to split the BE and fill up with cusa leftovers then you hate MT.

No, Tigershark. I just hate him for not making UC/WVU a mirror game lmfao

That must be a very major concern relative to keeping the bcs and getting tv contracts.

Quote:[quote="CollegeCard"] its not good when the league champ (Houston) is losing at home to the 6th place Sun Belt team (La-Lafayette), a team who was just demolished by a combined 96-10 against LSU & A&M last season.

Single games do not necessarily mean all that much. Who-beat-who comparisons can be rationalized to validate most any argument. Houston narrowly lost to South Carolina in a very exciting Liberty Bowl game. That is the same USC team which lost to Florida a few weeks before by a late missed field goal.

Gray Avenger Wrote:

Quote:[quote="CollegeCard"] its not good when the league champ (Houston) is losing at home to the 6th place Sun Belt team (La-Lafayette), a team who was just demolished by a combined 96-10 against LSU & A&M last season.

Single games do not necessarily mean all that much. Who-beat-who comparisons can be rationalized to validate most any argument. Houston narrowly lost to South Carolina in a very exciting Liberty Bowl game. That is the same USC team which lost to Florida a few weeks before by a late missed field goal.

Almost beating a superior team and actually losing to an inferior team are not the same. There are no 2 ways around the fact that Houston, the cusa champ lost to the 6th place Sunbelt team. The Sunbelt is the lowest of all D1a football conferences.

GA, you're fighting a losing battle here.

Let me capsulize your argument for you.

"You should ignore that our conference champion lost to the 6th place Sun Belt team at home, because they only lost by 8 points to the 8th place SEC team."

We don't play 35 games like basketball. Your conference champ losing to a bottom half Sun Belt team is going to be noted by all, and isn't offset by losing by more than a touchdown to a bottom half SEC team. You're asking for respect for Houston just because they showed up at the stadium to line up against South Carolina. That's the same line of thinking from when you said Memphis losing to top 10 programs 20 or 30 years ago should garner respect. It just doesn't fly.