DrKRedRockPennyHowlRose
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RE: OCS NOW!
Buy Audubon and a strip of homes along Southern to make the Main and South campuses contiguous and put an OCS in between.
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ChapelHillTiger
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RE: OCS NOW!
i like this type of use of the mind!
Go Tigers GO! OCS planning NOW!
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04-28-2015 06:34 AM |
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panama
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Re: RE: OCS NOW!
(04-27-2015 02:08 PM)eltigre Wrote: (04-27-2015 01:11 PM)ummechengr Wrote: (04-27-2015 12:42 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (04-27-2015 08:40 AM)ummechengr Wrote: (04-24-2015 10:26 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:
Just because you can physically fit a stadium in a location does not make it feasible. You have one two lane road surrounding the stadium, one small parking garage and minimal parking on Central and Walker. The location in picture has a single two lane road for access. One small parking garage and limited parking on Central and Walker. We do not have enough parking for all 20,000 students ti all be on campus at the same time. Where are you going to park 40,000 fans? The southern access road cannot be widened due to RR tracks. Which leaves you only Central Ave as traffic bottleneck. Beside the area in question is far too valuable for possible housing or education expansion.
I understand. Those images are from the Heery Report which provided information on the feasibility of an OCS at Memphis. It accounted for not just stadium locations, but parking, plumbing, electrical, sewers, etc.
May be pie in the sky, but I'm always going to be on board with a plan that allows the school to have full control over it's facilities.
You are right - It did do just that. It's feasible, it fits, etc....and the Heery Report has been posted on here many times so everyone should be fully informed by now but judging by some of the comments, I guess not.
I also agree about being in control of the facilities. I also think the value of getting alums on campus 5 or 6 times a year is being grossly overlooked. How many alums are drawn to the campus now on any given football Saturday? Think it's easier to solicit donations from an excited alum that just tailgated by the new building on campus?
That getting folks on campus is huge. Bigger than people realize. Here in Atlanta every now and then I will walk over to GT's 5th Street shops including their Barnes & Nobles bookstore. It is amazing to see 45 to 75 year old walking out with bags of GT merchandise and walking past Bobby Dodd Stadium and taking pictures. Those are the same folks who when called on the phone a few days later by GT, immediately write a big check. People say oh you're building a building for 6 days a year. But that building is sitting there 359 other days a year with students, alumni and city residents walking by and getting nostalgic.
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Tigerx3
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RE: OCS NOW!
All you have to do is look at the Master Plan for all the upgrades on campus and see the right choice was made by Raines and endorsed by Martin. We could not have done an OCS and accomplished everything else at the same time.
Rudd may now be able to look at a legitimate study but case in point, we are still short on raising money for the existing upgrades even with Cooks $10 mill donation. As was pointed out in this thread and some of us have said all along, the report was written by stadium building consultants to sell a stadium. It did not consider what was best for the university at the time.
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04-28-2015 08:00 AM |
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SouthernBlue
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RE: OCS NOW!
(04-28-2015 08:00 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote: All you have to do is look at the Master Plan for all the upgrades on campus and see the right choice was made by Raines and endorsed by Martin. We could not have done an OCS and accomplished everything else at the same time.
Rudd may now be able to look at a legitimate study but case in point, we are still short on raising money for the existing upgrades even with Cooks $10 mill donation. As was pointed out in this thread and some of us have said all along, the report was written by stadium building consultants to sell a stadium. It did not consider what was best for the university at the time.
Maybe if you had alumni revisiting the campus for game day at the OCS the upgrades would have already been paid. Raising money is easier when the alumni see what they are asking to support. Today without an OCS, why should an alumni visit the campus?
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04-28-2015 08:15 AM |
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UofMemphis
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RE: OCS NOW!
It's time to accept the fact that if Memphis got an OCS, it would be at the Park Ave campus...which is still 'off campus' to me.
We're "dreamers, thinkers, and we'll get around to it when someone else pays for iters"
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04-28-2015 08:21 AM |
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panama
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RE: OCS NOW!
(04-28-2015 08:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: It's time to accept the fact that if Memphis got an OCS, it would be at the Park Ave campus...which is still 'off campus' to me.
We're "dreamers, thinkers, and we'll get around to it when someone else pays for iters"
How far is Park Avenue campus from main campus?
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04-28-2015 10:06 AM |
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UofMemphis
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RE: OCS NOW!
(04-28-2015 10:06 AM)panama Wrote: (04-28-2015 08:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: It's time to accept the fact that if Memphis got an OCS, it would be at the Park Ave campus...which is still 'off campus' to me.
We're "dreamers, thinkers, and we'll get around to it when someone else pays for iters"
How far is Park Avenue campus from main campus?
3 mins or .8 miles
Liberty Bowl is 6 mins or 2.1 miles
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04-28-2015 10:18 AM |
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panama
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RE: OCS NOW!
(04-28-2015 10:18 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (04-28-2015 10:06 AM)panama Wrote: (04-28-2015 08:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: It's time to accept the fact that if Memphis got an OCS, it would be at the Park Ave campus...which is still 'off campus' to me.
We're "dreamers, thinkers, and we'll get around to it when someone else pays for iters"
How far is Park Avenue campus from main campus?
3 mins or .8 miles
Liberty Bowl is 6 mins or 2.1 miles
Wow. Eeeirly simlar to our distance from Georgia Dome and from Turner Field which we plan to convert. The reason I ask is that in our case there are a lot of off campus students living around Turner Field and there will also be dorms build at the Ted. So even though its not contiguous to center of campus (State Capitol Complex is in the middle) it will still be an extension of campus. So maybe Park Avenue is not such a bad idea.
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04-28-2015 10:33 AM |
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eltigre
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RE: OCS NOW!
(04-28-2015 08:15 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote: (04-28-2015 08:00 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote: All you have to do is look at the Master Plan for all the upgrades on campus and see the right choice was made by Raines and endorsed by Martin. We could not have done an OCS and accomplished everything else at the same time.
Rudd may now be able to look at a legitimate study but case in point, we are still short on raising money for the existing upgrades even with Cooks $10 mill donation. As was pointed out in this thread and some of us have said all along, the report was written by stadium building consultants to sell a stadium. It did not consider what was best for the university at the time.
Maybe if you had alumni revisiting the campus for game day at the OCS the upgrades would have already been paid. Raising money is easier when the alumni see what they are asking to support. Today without an OCS, why should an alumni visit the campus?
I would guess that the % of alums that revisit the campus after graduation is low and of those that do it is likely a rare or one time visit. I was recently called by the fundraising office asking to up my donation. The student making the call was reading the obligatory list of things happening on campus. He was reading it like a bored life insurance telemarketer. I bet there are some great things happening on campus but it's real hard to get that point across to the masses when they are highly unlikely to see it.
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