(03-05-2015 11:44 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 10:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 05:26 PM)Inigo Wrote:  USC and UCLA are going to dominate in FCS.

USC will buy (Their close to it) the Coliseum. It's a dump in a horrid neighborhood for those who've never been there btw.
UCLA will buy the Rose Bowl or build a new stadium a few miles closer than the hike their taking to play in it now. Again, something that's been talked about for years.
San Diego st has been on record of saying they'll drop football if the chargers move. Since the late 90's it's been a given. Balboa stadium with a capacity of less than 20k is where they played before and there's no room or $ for SDSU to build an OCS.
Pitt would build a small 30k stadium most likely.
Miami would drop football.
USF would probably build a 30k stadium...although Tampa dropped their football program during a pretty decent era. There weren't like a UAB; they were winning and still dropped. USF: build an OCS tomorrow before your schools admin sees the incredible price tag of that plus the stipends. It's vital to your survival.
The sunbelt Georgia St program will drop back down
I commend Tulane, Houston and UCF for building their OCS at the perfect and most critical time in college athletics. I also commend Cincinnati for their upgrades to Nippert.
Louisville with Papa johns stadium...brilliant. Rutgers with the upgrades when they did was also brilliant. ACC and Big 10??? Who would've guessed that 10 or 15 years ago. No one.
I still think UCONN built their stadium to far away with the hopes of luring the Patriots to playing in it too. It didn't happen and now all that money spent for a football stadium an hour away playing against....well it has to be heartbreaking to UCONN fans.

Thanks for the warning! We were just about to write a check for Turner Field! :cheers:

Whether you play in the Braves stadium or the Georgia dome it won't matter...you guys will be on the chopping block anyway. Georgia St students are already paying a ridiculous amount of student fees each semester so you can play FBS ball....I don't laugh at that. It's a shame.

(03-04-2015 04:29 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 03:22 PM)Bull Wrote:  #3 makes no sense. Build or move to FCS?? Those in an NFL stadium are not facing a dramatic need for a new stadium, as compared with schools in either a tiny or ancient stadium. Should not lump these together as if they face the same issue. USF has put >65K in RJS, apples and oranges.

Lest anyone get spun up about my comment, yes yes yes yes yes and yes an OCS is very nice. My comment is about capacity and $$$. And I realize that owning is better than renting, but you still have the capacity to swing big $$ off attendance if you can get folks in the seats.

usf hasnt put 65K+ in rjs in a long time. I think an on campus stadium would help attendance during the down years which would make the atmosphere even better during the good years.

It's a fair point to debate. Clearly USF can draw when winning... would an OCS would really help attendance when the team is down?
Some Bulls get fired up about this and think yes. I'm not sure, we've seen several schools build new stadiums and not draw nearly as well as hoped. (I'm not naming names) Frankly, unless you're a 100+ years history mega Power program, it's hard to pack the house when losing. So I don't think the OCS is a magic wand...

But again, plenty of Bulls would agree with you...

(03-04-2015 09:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 03:22 PM)Bull Wrote:  #3 makes no sense. Build or move to FCS?? Those in an NFL stadium are not facing a dramatic need for a new stadium, as compared with schools in either a tiny or ancient stadium. Should not lump these together as if they face the same issue. USF has put >65K in RJS, apples and oranges.

Lest anyone get spun up about my comment, yes yes yes yes yes and yes an OCS is very nice. My comment is about capacity and $$$. And I realize that owning is better than renting, but you still have the capacity to swing big $$ off attendance if you can get folks in the seats.

All 3 demands make no sense. Wow.....my point was this: if they (cartel 5 crooks) can pass this demand without you guys thinking it's not going to effect you., (G5) brace yourself for the rule that finally squeezes you out. It's coming and you guys not only don't see it, your happily going along with it...it's stunning to me how some of you think your schools going to be immune to what's happening.

USF can and will pay. In fact, all the American schools can and will pay. Otherwise I really don't know what you're talking about... If you're trying to connect ability to pay somehow to stadium... no relationship. At least, certainly not for schools playing in NFL stadiums.

(03-05-2015 12:59 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 11:49 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 07:49 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 07:46 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 02:41 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  ...3 Your program doesn't own its own stadium and plays in an NFL stadium, you must either build your own stadium, or move down to FCS...

Sorry --- I need to add two more

I like the other Army fan who put you in your place recently...btw, you play in the Georgia dome. That's something to cry about. The horrendous student fees you charge Georgia st students to pay each semester for your football program is also something to cry about

I should cry because we play in the Georgia Dome? Have you been there? C'mon son. When is Army moving down to FCS by the way? LOL. Your entire premise is a joke. Yeah we are crying so much that we have $1B in building projects currently and are buying Turner Field. Poor us.

(03-05-2015 01:03 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 11:44 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 10:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 05:26 PM)Inigo Wrote:  USC and UCLA are going to dominate in FCS.

USC will buy (Their close to it) the Coliseum. It's a dump in a horrid neighborhood for those who've never been there btw.
UCLA will buy the Rose Bowl or build a new stadium a few miles closer than the hike their taking to play in it now. Again, something that's been talked about for years.
San Diego st has been on record of saying they'll drop football if the chargers move. Since the late 90's it's been a given. Balboa stadium with a capacity of less than 20k is where they played before and there's no room or $ for SDSU to build an OCS.
Pitt would build a small 30k stadium most likely.
Miami would drop football.
USF would probably build a 30k stadium...although Tampa dropped their football program during a pretty decent era. There weren't like a UAB; they were winning and still dropped. USF: build an OCS tomorrow before your schools admin sees the incredible price tag of that plus the stipends. It's vital to your survival.
The sunbelt Georgia St program will drop back down
I commend Tulane, Houston and UCF for building their OCS at the perfect and most critical time in college athletics. I also commend Cincinnati for their upgrades to Nippert.
Louisville with Papa johns stadium...brilliant. Rutgers with the upgrades when they did was also brilliant. ACC and Big 10??? Who would've guessed that 10 or 15 years ago. No one.
I still think UCONN built their stadium to far away with the hopes of luring the Patriots to playing in it too. It didn't happen and now all that money spent for a football stadium an hour away playing against....well it has to be heartbreaking to UCONN fans.

Thanks for the warning! We were just about to write a check for Turner Field!

Whether you play in the Braves stadium or the Georgia dome it won't matter...you guys will be on the chopping block anyway. Georgia St students are already paying a ridiculous amount of student fees each semester so you can play FBS ball....I don't laugh at that. It's a shame.

Wait until we have 54k students in 2016. Oh no!

I love how you're smarter than people who make six figures to make decisions. You and only you have received illumination as to who is in and who is out. In fact autonomy was not opposed nor was the stipend by the G5 because everyone else in the world and especially those employed by G5 athletic departments appear to be idiots.

(03-05-2015 12:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 11:12 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 09:40 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 06:47 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Cool story, bro.

Not as cool as the story about Temple ever building an OCS

Why do I get the feeling you never went to college?

Why do I get the feeling that you hate the Army? Because I've read some nasty posts you've made to Army vets (not even including myself) I went to several schools for my under grad and grad school. Got my Bachelors from one of your "peers" who you hate so much. I hope for temples sake you build an OCS, if not, you deserve to be mocked for it troll.

(03-05-2015 04:13 PM)panama Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 12:59 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 11:49 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 07:49 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 07:46 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

Sorry --- I need to add two more

I like the other Army fan who put you in your place recently...btw, you play in the Georgia dome. That's something to cry about. The horrendous student fees you charge Georgia st students to pay each semester for your football program is also something to cry about

I should cry because we play in the Georgia Dome? Have you been there? C'mon son. When is Army moving down to FCS by the way? LOL. Your entire premise is a joke. Yeah we are crying so much that we have $1B in building projects currently and are buying Turner Field. Poor us.

Army will move down to FCS when Georgia State finally beats a FBS school. Thus, the Cadets will be playing with the big boys for eternity.

Oh so 2015. Coolness. Hahahaha