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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
ByrdMan, possibly?
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(02-26-2015 08:18 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 04:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 04:27 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 03:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 03:49 PM)tigers311 Wrote:  What are you trying to prove? That Pastner is a better coach than Cal? Cmon dude

Just throwing out a few interesting facts. What are you trying to prove? Paranoid much?

Why are you always so angry when you post?

Always, meaning the 5 days you have been on the board? Your complete lack of even a meager effort to cover your tracks is insulting. Weren't you given the tutorial?

Anger is guys like you that can't even go a week without exposing themselves.

What makes you think I'm a guy?

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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
(02-26-2015 08:33 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 08:18 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 04:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 04:27 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 03:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Just throwing out a few interesting facts. What are you trying to prove? Paranoid much?

Why are you always so angry when you post?

Always, meaning the 5 days you have been on the board? Your complete lack of even a meager effort to cover your tracks is insulting. Weren't you given the tutorial?

Anger is guys like you that can't even go a week without exposing themselves.

What makes you think I'm a guy?

Like Mimi?



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(02-26-2015 05:55 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  Hahaha. Stammers is just trolling everyone. He can't be that stupid right!?!?!

Knee slapper!

He has to be.
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(02-26-2015 07:33 PM)Stammers Wrote:  So sad that we have clown fans that can't even agree that two players that go from 8.2 points per game to 30.4 points per game; showed tremendous improvement.

Spin master hard at work. Stop it already. No one is saying that they didn't show improvement.

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(02-26-2015 08:51 PM)tigers311 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 05:55 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  Hahaha. Stammers is just trolling everyone. He can't be that stupid right!?!?!

Knee slapper!

He has to be.

Reading more of his posts, he seems to be on some sort of Josh Pastner Crusade to ensure he gets the recognition he deserves.

Josh is simply very average. He's not an elite coach. Stammers is so hung up on josh getting Memphis to the tournament four years in a row when he didn't have any significant head coaching experience. You know what? Good for josh.

That same lack of experience allowed him to take 3 top 20 teams to Unranked and blown out by quality competiton. That's not good for josh. And that's not good for our program.

Stammers seems to be content with a tourney bid. He doesn't seem to understand the city of Memphis is about the Tigers fiielding teams that can compete with the best and make a run at the final four every few years.

Finch's team
Lee, Bedford, turner, askew, bobby p willy becton
Penny, billy smith, Vaughan Douglas madlock
Cal - enough said

After 6 years of josh Memphis is no where near close to making one of those magical runs and he simply doesn't appear to be the guy to do it.

He kept our program afloat and now it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. Next man up.
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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
(02-26-2015 07:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:22 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:16 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Better lay off the cherry picked stats Stammers.

Fool’s Gold.

- Points per game
- Assists per game
- Shooting percentage
- 3 point shooting percentage
- Free throw shooting percentage
- Points per minute
- Assists per minute

You must be the only comedian on the planet that thinks that EW and Spoon weren't better players in 2010, you know...from watching them play.

The clown show continues.

Let me ask you this...

Since Cal Torched the program on his way out and left 0 talent on the team...

Why was that team better than this team according to your beloved RPI

09-10 year Memphis was 53 with a SOS of 85
14-15 year Memphis is 80 with a SOS of 82 (With a much improved coach, RIGHT?)

Now which squad has less talent...09-10 or 14-15 based on the all mighty RPI?

And better in KenPom as well, a more accurate measurement...58 in 10 and 83 this year.

Seems like that team was BETTER by any measure than this team, so how could you argue that Cal torched the program when Pastner did better in his first year than this year.

Pastner went all in last year and it didn't work out. Cal DID torch the program. Nobody would touch the job. If Pastner doesn't pull out the miracle recruiting class in 2010, we would have been mediocre for a few years. We should be eternally grateful for Pastner for his first 4 years, and disappointed with last year and this year.

I don't expect everyone to remember everything I say, but I've repeated the same thing dozens of times. Pastner did a phenomenal job with his first team and a bad job at the end of last year. We had a stretch in the middle of the season where I thought we were going to be really good, and the wheels fell off at the end of the season.

I am extremely balanced in my view of Pastner. I am able to praise and criticize him. We have posters who come and go that only exist to bash him. We have long standing posters who have always hated Pastner from day one.

So Pastner torched the program even worse than Cal this year...That is a silly argument...There was talent here when Cal left. Secondly you are correct, if Pastner doesn't land the 2010 class he would have been horrible and already have a new coach, because he cannot coach...He wins when he overwhelms you with talent or his players MAKE SHOTS.

That 2010 team had more 4-5* on the team than the remainder of the conference.
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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
(02-26-2015 09:02 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  After 6 years of josh Memphis is no where near close to making one of those magical runs and he simply doesn't appear to be the guy to do it.

He kept our program afloat and now it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. Next man up.

This sums up the current state of Memphis basketball perfectly.
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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
(02-26-2015 09:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:22 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:16 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Better lay off the cherry picked stats Stammers.

Fool’s Gold.

- Points per game
- Assists per game
- Shooting percentage
- 3 point shooting percentage
- Free throw shooting percentage
- Points per minute
- Assists per minute

You must be the only comedian on the planet that thinks that EW and Spoon weren't better players in 2010, you know...from watching them play.

The clown show continues.

Let me ask you this...

Since Cal Torched the program on his way out and left 0 talent on the team...

Why was that team better than this team according to your beloved RPI

09-10 year Memphis was 53 with a SOS of 85
14-15 year Memphis is 80 with a SOS of 82 (With a much improved coach, RIGHT?)

Now which squad has less talent...09-10 or 14-15 based on the all mighty RPI?

And better in KenPom as well, a more accurate measurement...58 in 10 and 83 this year.

Seems like that team was BETTER by any measure than this team, so how could you argue that Cal torched the program when Pastner did better in his first year than this year.

Pastner went all in last year and it didn't work out. Cal DID torch the program. Nobody would touch the job. If Pastner doesn't pull out the miracle recruiting class in 2010, we would have been mediocre for a few years. We should be eternally grateful for Pastner for his first 4 years, and disappointed with last year and this year.

I don't expect everyone to remember everything I say, but I've repeated the same thing dozens of times. Pastner did a phenomenal job with his first team and a bad job at the end of last year. We had a stretch in the middle of the season where I thought we were going to be really good, and the wheels fell off at the end of the season.

I am extremely balanced in my view of Pastner. I am able to praise and criticize him. We have posters who come and go that only exist to bash him. We have long standing posters who have always hated Pastner from day one.

So Pastner torched the program even worse than Cal this year...That is a silly argument...There was talent here when Cal left. Secondly you are correct, if Pastner doesn't land the 2010 class he would have been horrible and already have a new coach, because he cannot coach...He wins when he overwhelms you with talent.

That 'miracle' class was composed primarily of Memphis kids and we got the Barton's because of cyp.

If he couldn't get the Memphis kids to commit he would have been gone for mere incompetency.
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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
(02-26-2015 09:12 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:22 PM)Stammers Wrote:  - Points per game
- Assists per game
- Shooting percentage
- 3 point shooting percentage
- Free throw shooting percentage
- Points per minute
- Assists per minute

You must be the only comedian on the planet that thinks that EW and Spoon weren't better players in 2010, you know...from watching them play.

The clown show continues.

Let me ask you this...

Since Cal Torched the program on his way out and left 0 talent on the team...

Why was that team better than this team according to your beloved RPI

09-10 year Memphis was 53 with a SOS of 85
14-15 year Memphis is 80 with a SOS of 82 (With a much improved coach, RIGHT?)

Now which squad has less talent...09-10 or 14-15 based on the all mighty RPI?

And better in KenPom as well, a more accurate measurement...58 in 10 and 83 this year.

Seems like that team was BETTER by any measure than this team, so how could you argue that Cal torched the program when Pastner did better in his first year than this year.

Pastner went all in last year and it didn't work out. Cal DID torch the program. Nobody would touch the job. If Pastner doesn't pull out the miracle recruiting class in 2010, we would have been mediocre for a few years. We should be eternally grateful for Pastner for his first 4 years, and disappointed with last year and this year.

I don't expect everyone to remember everything I say, but I've repeated the same thing dozens of times. Pastner did a phenomenal job with his first team and a bad job at the end of last year. We had a stretch in the middle of the season where I thought we were going to be really good, and the wheels fell off at the end of the season.

I am extremely balanced in my view of Pastner. I am able to praise and criticize him. We have posters who come and go that only exist to bash him. We have long standing posters who have always hated Pastner from day one.

So Pastner torched the program even worse than Cal this year...That is a silly argument...There was talent here when Cal left. Secondly you are correct, if Pastner doesn't land the 2010 class he would have been horrible and already have a new coach, because he cannot coach...He wins when he overwhelms you with talent.

That 'miracle' class was composed primarily of Memphis kids and we got the Barton's because of cyp.

If he couldn't get the Memphis kids to commit he would have been gone for mere incompetency.

Agreed...I am not saying him getting that class was a recruiting miracle, I am saying if he doesn't land it he is already gone.
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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
(02-26-2015 09:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:12 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Let me ask you this...

Since Cal Torched the program on his way out and left 0 talent on the team...

Why was that team better than this team according to your beloved RPI

09-10 year Memphis was 53 with a SOS of 85
14-15 year Memphis is 80 with a SOS of 82 (With a much improved coach, RIGHT?)

Now which squad has less talent...09-10 or 14-15 based on the all mighty RPI?

And better in KenPom as well, a more accurate measurement...58 in 10 and 83 this year.

Seems like that team was BETTER by any measure than this team, so how could you argue that Cal torched the program when Pastner did better in his first year than this year.

Pastner went all in last year and it didn't work out. Cal DID torch the program. Nobody would touch the job. If Pastner doesn't pull out the miracle recruiting class in 2010, we would have been mediocre for a few years. We should be eternally grateful for Pastner for his first 4 years, and disappointed with last year and this year.

I don't expect everyone to remember everything I say, but I've repeated the same thing dozens of times. Pastner did a phenomenal job with his first team and a bad job at the end of last year. We had a stretch in the middle of the season where I thought we were going to be really good, and the wheels fell off at the end of the season.

I am extremely balanced in my view of Pastner. I am able to praise and criticize him. We have posters who come and go that only exist to bash him. We have long standing posters who have always hated Pastner from day one.

So Pastner torched the program even worse than Cal this year...That is a silly argument...There was talent here when Cal left. Secondly you are correct, if Pastner doesn't land the 2010 class he would have been horrible and already have a new coach, because he cannot coach...He wins when he overwhelms you with talent.

That 'miracle' class was composed primarily of Memphis kids and we got the Barton's because of cyp.

If he couldn't get the Memphis kids to commit he would have been gone for mere incompetency.

Agreed...I am not saying him getting that class was a recruiting miracle, I am saying if he doesn't land it he is already gone.

Stammers was calling it a miracle. The real miracle was convincing cyp to join the staff. Memphis kids were coming if you were coaching.
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RE: Keep him or ditch him?
(02-26-2015 08:57 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:33 PM)Stammers Wrote:  So sad that we have clown fans that can't even agree that two players that go from 8.2 points per game to 30.4 points per game; showed tremendous improvement.

Spin master hard at work. Stop it already. No one is saying that they didn't show improvement.

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(02-26-2015 09:12 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:22 PM)Stammers Wrote:  - Points per game
- Assists per game
- Shooting percentage
- 3 point shooting percentage
- Free throw shooting percentage
- Points per minute
- Assists per minute

You must be the only comedian on the planet that thinks that EW and Spoon weren't better players in 2010, you know...from watching them play.

The clown show continues.

Let me ask you this...

Since Cal Torched the program on his way out and left 0 talent on the team...

Why was that team better than this team according to your beloved RPI

09-10 year Memphis was 53 with a SOS of 85
14-15 year Memphis is 80 with a SOS of 82 (With a much improved coach, RIGHT?)

Now which squad has less talent...09-10 or 14-15 based on the all mighty RPI?

And better in KenPom as well, a more accurate measurement...58 in 10 and 83 this year.

Seems like that team was BETTER by any measure than this team, so how could you argue that Cal torched the program when Pastner did better in his first year than this year.

Pastner went all in last year and it didn't work out. Cal DID torch the program. Nobody would touch the job. If Pastner doesn't pull out the miracle recruiting class in 2010, we would have been mediocre for a few years. We should be eternally grateful for Pastner for his first 4 years, and disappointed with last year and this year.

I don't expect everyone to remember everything I say, but I've repeated the same thing dozens of times. Pastner did a phenomenal job with his first team and a bad job at the end of last year. We had a stretch in the middle of the season where I thought we were going to be really good, and the wheels fell off at the end of the season.

I am extremely balanced in my view of Pastner. I am able to praise and criticize him. We have posters who come and go that only exist to bash him. We have long standing posters who have always hated Pastner from day one.

So Pastner torched the program even worse than Cal this year...That is a silly argument...There was talent here when Cal left. Secondly you are correct, if Pastner doesn't land the 2010 class he would have been horrible and already have a new coach, because he cannot coach...He wins when he overwhelms you with talent.

That 'miracle' class was composed primarily of Memphis kids and we got the Barton's because of cyp.

If he couldn't get the Memphis kids to commit he would have been gone for mere incompetency.

Cal whiffed on most of them. Dumb Pastner hating nonsense again.
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(02-26-2015 09:36 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:12 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 07:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Pastner went all in last year and it didn't work out. Cal DID torch the program. Nobody would touch the job. If Pastner doesn't pull out the miracle recruiting class in 2010, we would have been mediocre for a few years. We should be eternally grateful for Pastner for his first 4 years, and disappointed with last year and this year.

I don't expect everyone to remember everything I say, but I've repeated the same thing dozens of times. Pastner did a phenomenal job with his first team and a bad job at the end of last year. We had a stretch in the middle of the season where I thought we were going to be really good, and the wheels fell off at the end of the season.

I am extremely balanced in my view of Pastner. I am able to praise and criticize him. We have posters who come and go that only exist to bash him. We have long standing posters who have always hated Pastner from day one.

So Pastner torched the program even worse than Cal this year...That is a silly argument...There was talent here when Cal left. Secondly you are correct, if Pastner doesn't land the 2010 class he would have been horrible and already have a new coach, because he cannot coach...He wins when he overwhelms you with talent.

That 'miracle' class was composed primarily of Memphis kids and we got the Barton's because of cyp.

If he couldn't get the Memphis kids to commit he would have been gone for mere incompetency.

Agreed...I am not saying him getting that class was a recruiting miracle, I am saying if he doesn't land it he is already gone.

Stammers was calling it a miracle. The real miracle was convincing cyp to join the staff. Memphis kids were coming if you were coaching.

The clowns are more impressive than usual tonight. No credit whatsoever for being one of the best recruiters in the country. Any excuse...
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Another example of why Pastner has to go!!
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(02-26-2015 09:02 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 08:51 PM)tigers311 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 05:55 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  Hahaha. Stammers is just trolling everyone. He can't be that stupid right!?!?!

Knee slapper!

He has to be.

Reading more of his posts, he seems to be on some sort of Josh Pastner Crusade to ensure he gets the recognition he deserves.

Josh is simply very average. He's not an elite coach. Stammers is so hung up on josh getting Memphis to the tournament four years in a row when he didn't have any significant head coaching experience. You know what? Good for josh.

That same lack of experience allowed him to take 3 top 20 teams to Unranked and blown out by quality competiton. That's not good for josh. And that's not good for our program.

Stammers seems to be content with a tourney bid. He doesn't seem to understand the city of Memphis is about the Tigers fiielding teams that can compete with the best and make a run at the final four every few years.

Finch's team
Lee, Bedford, turner, askew, bobby p willy becton
Penny, billy smith, Vaughan Douglas madlock
Cal - enough said

After 6 years of josh Memphis is no where near close to making one of those magical runs and he simply doesn't appear to be the guy to do it.

He kept our program afloat and now it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. Next man up.

The joker that joined the board for the sole purpose of bashing Pastner is saying that someone is on a crusade. Not very bright and oblivious. Funny.
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(02-26-2015 11:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:02 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 08:51 PM)tigers311 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 05:55 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  Hahaha. Stammers is just trolling everyone. He can't be that stupid right!?!?!

Knee slapper!

He has to be.

Reading more of his posts, he seems to be on some sort of Josh Pastner Crusade to ensure he gets the recognition he deserves.

Josh is simply very average. He's not an elite coach. Stammers is so hung up on josh getting Memphis to the tournament four years in a row when he didn't have any significant head coaching experience. You know what? Good for josh.

That same lack of experience allowed him to take 3 top 20 teams to Unranked and blown out by quality competiton. That's not good for josh. And that's not good for our program.

Stammers seems to be content with a tourney bid. He doesn't seem to understand the city of Memphis is about the Tigers fiielding teams that can compete with the best and make a run at the final four every few years.

Finch's team
Lee, Bedford, turner, askew, bobby p willy becton
Penny, billy smith, Vaughan Douglas madlock
Cal - enough said

After 6 years of josh Memphis is no where near close to making one of those magical runs and he simply doesn't appear to be the guy to do it.

He kept our program afloat and now it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. Next man up.

The joker that joined the board for the sole purpose of bashing Pastner is saying that someone is on a crusade. Not very bright and oblivious. Funny.

Captain Crusader!!! Keep up the fight for coach p!

Do you go into withdrawals when you're away from the message board for too long?
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(02-26-2015 08:18 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 04:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 04:27 PM)ByrdMan Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 03:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 03:49 PM)tigers311 Wrote:  What are you trying to prove? That Pastner is a better coach than Cal? Cmon dude

Just throwing out a few interesting facts. What are you trying to prove? Paranoid much?

Why are you always so angry when you post?

Always, meaning the 5 days you have been on the board? Your complete lack of even a meager effort to cover your tracks is insulting. Weren't you given the tutorial?

Anger is guys like you that can't even go a week without exposing themselves.

What makes you think I'm a guy?

Gender confusion?
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(02-26-2015 11:01 PM)JBtiger6700 Wrote:  Another example of why Pastner has to go!!

Like clockwork, another new guy who picked right now in his entire life to join a message board and bash Pastner with every post. Funny
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(02-26-2015 11:05 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 11:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 09:02 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 08:51 PM)tigers311 Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 05:55 PM)ToldYa Wrote:  Hahaha. Stammers is just trolling everyone. He can't be that stupid right!?!?!

Knee slapper!

He has to be.

Reading more of his posts, he seems to be on some sort of Josh Pastner Crusade to ensure he gets the recognition he deserves.

Josh is simply very average. He's not an elite coach. Stammers is so hung up on josh getting Memphis to the tournament four years in a row when he didn't have any significant head coaching experience. You know what? Good for josh.

That same lack of experience allowed him to take 3 top 20 teams to Unranked and blown out by quality competiton. That's not good for josh. And that's not good for our program.

Stammers seems to be content with a tourney bid. He doesn't seem to understand the city of Memphis is about the Tigers fiielding teams that can compete with the best and make a run at the final four every few years.

Finch's team
Lee, Bedford, turner, askew, bobby p willy becton
Penny, billy smith, Vaughan Douglas madlock
Cal - enough said

After 6 years of josh Memphis is no where near close to making one of those magical runs and he simply doesn't appear to be the guy to do it.

He kept our program afloat and now it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. Next man up.

The joker that joined the board for the sole purpose of bashing Pastner is saying that someone is on a crusade. Not very bright and oblivious. Funny.

Captain Crusader!!! Keep up the fight for coach p!

Do you go into withdrawals when you're away from the message board for too long?

The kid that joined a message board for the sole purpose of bashing Pastner; he literally has nothing else to say, is calling someone a crusader. Funny.
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