(02-11-2015 09:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:52 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:16 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  Seems to be a lot of conflicting information about what the powers that be have in mind. Typical. Just glad I don't know any of the powers that be.

We could win the AAC tourney and make a good run in the NCAA dance.

A few years ago UCONN was dead in the water, won the Big East tourney, and won the national championship. So you have to allow the season to play out before even thinking of making decisions of change.

Yep. I'm not speculating on what I thing/believe will happen at all.

Just saying - that playing four games without Austin is probably the best thing that can happen for the rest of the team - now they have to rely on each other more than just relying on one player. In theory, it should toughen them up and make them a bit better.

Austin comes back and no telling.

They still could win the AAC tourney.

Do I think they will - no. But nothing is outside the realm of possibility right now.

You mean like losing the remaining games? As far as winning the tournament I'm not sure we will win the first round game.

(02-11-2015 10:31 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:52 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:16 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  Seems to be a lot of conflicting information about what the powers that be have in mind. Typical. Just glad I don't know any of the powers that be.

We could win the AAC tourney and make a good run in the NCAA dance.

A few years ago UCONN was dead in the water, won the Big East tourney, and won the national championship. So you have to allow the season to play out before even thinking of making decisions of change.

Yep. I'm not speculating on what I thing/believe will happen at all.

Just saying - that playing four games without Austin is probably the best thing that can happen for the rest of the team - now they have to rely on each other more than just relying on one player. In theory, it should toughen them up and make them a bit better.

Austin comes back and no telling.

They still could win the AAC tourney.

Do I think they will - no. But nothing is outside the realm of possibility right now.

You mean like losing the remaining games? As far as winning the tournament I'm not sure we will win the first round game.

I tend to agree.

Just saying that the team learning to play without AN should make them better in theory, maybe not by winning games, but in decreasing their reliance on him, so that when he returns, they should be a little stronger overall.

One big problem is that Burrell has just about gone into a total funk since whatever happened with Iverson. And I'm not sure it will get fixed.

When guys like Kuran Iverson and Tarik Black leave disgruntled, the problem doesn't end with their departure. Iverson is probably still talking smack about Pastner and undermining him. As buddy-buddy as coach is with these players, the players are closer to each other than to him. You think Joe Jackson and Tarik are pumping the Pastner lead memphis program to the next generation of prospective Tigers?

This is bad now and only going to get worse. The problem with firing Pastner is retaining the Lawsons. Those kids will scatter to the wind if their Dad isn't going to be on the Memphis bench.

(02-11-2015 10:27 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:26 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:52 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 09:16 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  Seems to be a lot of conflicting information about what the powers that be have in mind. Typical. Just glad I don't know any of the powers that be.

We could win the AAC tourney and make a good run in the NCAA dance.

A few years ago UCONN was dead in the water, won the Big East tourney, and won the national championship. So you have to allow the season to play out before even thinking of making decisions of change.

The reality is forget the NCAA tournament. IMHO it’s going to take a bonafide miracle for us to get a NIT invite.

It's going to take a miracle to win any game until AN is back.

Even before last night’s loss I was thinking it was possible for us to lose the remainder of our games. At best I can’t see us going above .500 for the remainder of our games unless we are granted a miracle.

And there is about a.0000000000000000000000000001% chance of this happening.

(02-11-2015 10:41 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote:  This is bad now and only going to get worse. The problem with firing Pastner is retaining the Lawsons. Those kids will scatter to the wind if their Dad isn't going to be on the Memphis bench.

I foresee very few scenarios where a new coach wouldn't retain Keelon.

(02-11-2015 10:43 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:41 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote:  This is bad now and only going to get worse. The problem with firing Pastner is retaining the Lawsons. Those kids will scatter to the wind if their Dad isn't going to be on the Memphis bench.

I foresee very few scenarios where a new coach wouldn't retain Keelon.

If thats true, then there is truly no reason to keep Pastner.

(02-11-2015 10:43 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:41 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote:  This is bad now and only going to get worse. The problem with firing Pastner is retaining the Lawsons. Those kids will scatter to the wind if their Dad isn't going to be on the Memphis bench.

I foresee very few scenarios where a new coach wouldn't retain Keelon.

Having the Lawsons onboard is a nice carrot for a prospective coach.

(02-11-2015 10:47 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:43 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:41 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote:  This is bad now and only going to get worse. The problem with firing Pastner is retaining the Lawsons. Those kids will scatter to the wind if their Dad isn't going to be on the Memphis bench.

I foresee very few scenarios where a new coach wouldn't retain Keelon.

Having the Lawsons onboard is a nice carrot for a prospective coach.

It might not be that easy. Keelon might have a good relationship with Pastner and not be happy being used as a carrot for a new coach.

He could probably get similar offers from a number of programs.

Hell, I might be happy with Reggie Theus taking the reigns the way I feel this morning.

Hey let's just stop right now because Gary Parrish just said that CJP is doing exactly what he should be doing at the U of M


and we shouldn't expect him to do any better because we are just little o'l Memphis...and CJP is doing what we all should expect here...

(02-11-2015 10:47 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:43 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:41 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote:  This is bad now and only going to get worse. The problem with firing Pastner is retaining the Lawsons. Those kids will scatter to the wind if their Dad isn't going to be on the Memphis bench.

I foresee very few scenarios where a new coach wouldn't retain Keelon.

Having the Lawsons onboard is a nice carrot for a prospective coach.

A Coach after this season would be much more inclined to come here with the pieces that are here and coming in next season.. But I'm afraid that if they wait another season they will be hard pressed to find a decent replacement.. A lot of players could bolt by then and he sure isn't getting any recruit worth a durn for the next class so the next Coach would have to start from scratch more than likely..


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(02-11-2015 10:54 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:47 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:43 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 10:41 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote:  This is bad now and only going to get worse. The problem with firing Pastner is retaining the Lawsons. Those kids will scatter to the wind if their Dad isn't going to be on the Memphis bench.

I foresee very few scenarios where a new coach wouldn't retain Keelon.

Having the Lawsons onboard is a nice carrot for a prospective coach.

It might not be that easy. Keelon might have a good relationship with Pastner and not be happy being used as a carrot for a new coach.

He could probably get similar offers from a number of programs.

I think if he had a good relationship Pastner would have been much quicker in pulling the trigger to bring him on board. From reading the tea leaves, Pastner had to be nudged to bring Keelon on board.

(02-11-2015 08:52 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 08:33 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  From what I’m hearing and have been told the powers that be will stay the course.

So…..

So this is premature? Premature is not good, or so I've been told.

Huh? I always thought it was a race to see who finished first. At least that's what I told all my exes.

Realistic replacements? Oh my goodness. I honestly can't name one.

Who I want to be our coach? Honestly? Ben Howland, Lionel Hollins, or Rick Stansbury. But never happening. NEVER.

Shaka is waiting for a bigger job and Miller is too. I don't think they are realistic.

(02-11-2015 12:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Shaka is waiting for a bigger job and Miller is too. I don't think they are realistic.

Didn't Shaka tell UCLA to stick it? Not much bigger than that. I think Shaka is just actually happy at VCU.

Miller might take it I think, but I doubt it.

You call both to at least have the conversation. My guess is Shaka would be a hard and polite no () and Miller would consider it, but still say no after thinking about it.

(02-11-2015 12:30 PM)KendallC Wrote:  Realistic replacements? Oh my goodness. I honestly can't name one.

Who I want to be our coach? Honestly? Ben Howland, Lionel Hollins, or Rick Stansbury. But never happening. NEVER.

Ben Howland was gonna take the Tulsa job, How would he not take the Memphis job?

damn forgot about UCLA. I know he's turned down USC, Illinois, NC State.

(02-11-2015 09:21 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  If you pull Pastner after this year, looking at his overall W-L record since he took over and the kids that have graduated, you are going to have a hard time getting top notch coaches to take the risk.

Anyone can have a bad season.

Should we have advance further in previous NCAA tournaments, no doubt. But a tournament is a tournament, one bad game or matchup and you're out.

Time will tell.

Look at it this way:

-he has not proved his skills and know-how technique in developing players. All 4* and 5* players who have come to Memphis have dived... I have not seen anyone has reached expectation.

-as a result, Memphis never reach its potential... Anh I guess it wont ever do ;(

-he has not shown that he is good in game plan, adjustment on courts,...

I know he is a good guy. I am more than happy to have a friend like him. But, I rather not have him as my Memphis head coach...