(02-04-2015 05:42 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  FWIW, if you add in our late enrollees from last year / transfer to this class (Scott, Speller, Baird, Seargent), we have a score of 161.07. This would place us second in the conference behind USF (VERY close).
This is without Two more 3 star guys we are working that didn't sign today.

Remember we all have those also that would raise all of our scores up

(02-04-2015 05:15 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF is fine at QB. Not great but there will be enough talent around it

Jesus Cuban...You guys would have won 8 or 9 games this past year with a good QB. Great recruiting class for USF but no QB really, really, is strange. Not a flame.

(02-04-2015 05:23 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:20 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:17 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:15 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF is fine at QB. Not great but there will be enough talent around it

After the results from last year? I give Taggart a B+ for this class just for not signing a reliable QB to develope

Too early to tell my friend no one would have predicted that Bortles nor Carden where going to be as good as they became based on their signing day rankings

I don't know but your QB situation looks shaky. I thought White would be the guy.

White is not the answer.

(02-04-2015 05:47 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:15 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF is fine at QB. Not great but there will be enough talent around it

Jesus Cuban...You guys would have won 8 or 9 games this past year with a good QB. Great recruiting class for USF but no QB really, really, is strange. Not a flame.

We do have a QB this recruiting class. One that is ranked higher than Lynch,Carden and comparable to Bortles when they were signed. How good is he going to be who knows.
Newsflash our schools aren't getting that four star QB that's ready to make a difference in year one.
Our offensive line was atrocious last year and our WR position outside of Davis was weak. You put any QB in our league under those conditions and they are going to look bad

(02-04-2015 05:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:42 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  FWIW, if you add in our late enrollees from last year / transfer to this class (Scott, Speller, Baird, Seargent), we have a score of 161.07. This would place us second in the conference behind USF (VERY close).
This is without Two more 3 star guys we are working that didn't sign today.

Remember we all have those also that would raise all of our scores up

Yes, but even adding those in for us we still only have 17 in the class, USF has 20. We had very limited space this year which hurts our rankings which at the end of the day is almost pointless.

(02-04-2015 05:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 04:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 02:52 PM)knightastic Wrote:  doesn't UCF have 20 spots?

why only use 17?

The official word from O'Leary from todays press conference is that Demeitre Brim (LB Transfer from Virginia) and Michael Rogers will be 18 and 19. If you remember from last year, Michael Rogers hasn't been able to qualify academically because of his testing scores. He recently took the ACT (I think) again, and is being pushed to get into Summer A semester on campus.

Link for Demeitre Brim

Link for Mike Rogers

I know this doesn't count, and im not trying to set a precedent, but if you include those two in our class for this year, we have a score of 189.86 on the 247composite, good enough for #42 in this years rankings, behind TCU, and easily #1 amongst the G5. Add in Kahlil Lewis who we were legitimately expecting, and it gets even better, but if wishes were wings pigs could fly.

Good class when you put it in perspective.

Mike Rogers isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He is better off at Marsha, they don't know what the ACT or SAT is....just need a heart beat.

UCF isn't looking for him to find a cure for cancer, we just want him to be a "baller." He certainly fits that bill if he can qualify.

(02-04-2015 06:15 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 04:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 02:52 PM)knightastic Wrote:  doesn't UCF have 20 spots?

why only use 17?

The official word from O'Leary from todays press conference is that Demeitre Brim (LB Transfer from Virginia) and Michael Rogers will be 18 and 19. If you remember from last year, Michael Rogers hasn't been able to qualify academically because of his testing scores. He recently took the ACT (I think) again, and is being pushed to get into Summer A semester on campus.

Link for Demeitre Brim

Link for Mike Rogers

I know this doesn't count, and im not trying to set a precedent, but if you include those two in our class for this year, we have a score of 189.86 on the 247composite, good enough for #42 in this years rankings, behind TCU, and easily #1 amongst the G5. Add in Kahlil Lewis who we were legitimately expecting, and it gets even better, but if wishes were wings pigs could fly.

Good class when you put it in perspective.

Mike Rogers isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He is better off at Marsha, they don't know what the ACT or SAT is....just need a heart beat.

UCF isn't looking for him to find a cure for cancer, we just want him to be a "baller." He certainly fits that bill if he can qualify.

Future Backfield of UCF:

DB - Rashard Causey, Kyle Gibson
Safeties - Mike Rogers, Brandon Scott

That's a lot of talent in the backfield. Gonna need it in this pass happy league.

(02-04-2015 05:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:47 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:15 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF is fine at QB. Not great but there will be enough talent around it

Jesus Cuban...You guys would have won 8 or 9 games this past year with a good QB. Great recruiting class for USF but no QB really, really, is strange. Not a flame.

We do have a QB this recruiting class. One that is ranked higher than Lynch,Carden and comparable to Bortles when they were signed. How good is he going to be who knows.
Newsflash our schools aren't getting that four star QB that's ready to make a difference in year one.
Our offensive line was atrocious last year and our WR position outside of Davis was weak. You put any QB in our league under those conditions and they are going to look bad

okorn did great as a true fresh (8-4 regular season) PJ had an unbelieveable freshmen year...

but usf has been amazing at recruiting everything except qb, literally anything but QB

your QB recruits has been not good.... your last years recruit is honeslty a WR/TE, your recruit for this year is a 2 star recruit, who's highlight reel wasnt even impressive...

and why cant USF get a 4star? tulsa had one, smu has one (who was once committed to houston), usf is the best recruiting team in the league..but you cant get a a highly touted JC, or highly rated 3star?...usf's QB situation was horrible, atleast 2 qbs should have been brought in.. and touted ones...
asanti almost signed with holtz (and his qb recruit at la tech is even more touted than your current at USF)...im confused why taggart has trouble bringin in qbs

mike white isnt the answer neither bench or flowers..i said it before, but to me a decent play caller and a qb is what is missing from USF to be competting for conference championships ...unfortately i dont see either coming for USF next season

(02-04-2015 05:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:47 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:15 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF is fine at QB. Not great but there will be enough talent around it

Jesus Cuban...You guys would have won 8 or 9 games this past year with a good QB. Great recruiting class for USF but no QB really, really, is strange. Not a flame.

We do have a QB this recruiting class. One that is ranked higher than Lynch,Carden and comparable to Bortles when they were signed. How good is he going to be who knows.
Newsflash our schools aren't getting that four star QB that's ready to make a difference in year one.
Our offensive line was atrocious last year and our WR position outside of Davis was weak. You put any QB in our league under those conditions and they are going to look bad

I'd hope everyone in the conference would be signing higher rated QBs than Carden

(02-04-2015 06:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:15 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 04:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 02:52 PM)knightastic Wrote:  doesn't UCF have 20 spots?

why only use 17?

The official word from O'Leary from todays press conference is that Demeitre Brim (LB Transfer from Virginia) and Michael Rogers will be 18 and 19. If you remember from last year, Michael Rogers hasn't been able to qualify academically because of his testing scores. He recently took the ACT (I think) again, and is being pushed to get into Summer A semester on campus.

Link for Demeitre Brim

Link for Mike Rogers

I know this doesn't count, and im not trying to set a precedent, but if you include those two in our class for this year, we have a score of 189.86 on the 247composite, good enough for #42 in this years rankings, behind TCU, and easily #1 amongst the G5. Add in Kahlil Lewis who we were legitimately expecting, and it gets even better, but if wishes were wings pigs could fly.

Good class when you put it in perspective.

Mike Rogers isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He is better off at Marsha, they don't know what the ACT or SAT is....just need a heart beat.

UCF isn't looking for him to find a cure for cancer, we just want him to be a "baller." He certainly fits that bill if he can qualify.

Future Backfield of UCF:

DB - Rashard Causey, Kyle Gibson
Safeties - Mike Rogers, Brandon Scott

That's a lot of talent in the backfield. Gonna need it in this pass happy league.

You are forgetting Chris Williams who flipped from bama on signing day last year

(02-04-2015 07:00 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:15 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 04:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  The official word from O'Leary from todays press conference is that Demeitre Brim (LB Transfer from Virginia) and Michael Rogers will be 18 and 19. If you remember from last year, Michael Rogers hasn't been able to qualify academically because of his testing scores. He recently took the ACT (I think) again, and is being pushed to get into Summer A semester on campus.

Link for Demeitre Brim

Link for Mike Rogers

I know this doesn't count, and im not trying to set a precedent, but if you include those two in our class for this year, we have a score of 189.86 on the 247composite, good enough for #42 in this years rankings, behind TCU, and easily #1 amongst the G5. Add in Kahlil Lewis who we were legitimately expecting, and it gets even better, but if wishes were wings pigs could fly.

Good class when you put it in perspective.

Mike Rogers isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He is better off at Marsha, they don't know what the ACT or SAT is....just need a heart beat.

UCF isn't looking for him to find a cure for cancer, we just want him to be a "baller." He certainly fits that bill if he can qualify.

Future Backfield of UCF:

DB - Rashard Causey, Kyle Gibson
Safeties - Mike Rogers, Brandon Scott

That's a lot of talent in the backfield. Gonna need it in this pass happy league.

You are forgetting Chris Williams who flipped from bama on signing day last year

I thought he flipped from Auburn?

And I wont complain if he steals a spot in that starting rotation. I just haven't heard anything about him since we landed him.

(02-04-2015 06:38 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:47 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:15 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF is fine at QB. Not great but there will be enough talent around it

Jesus Cuban...You guys would have won 8 or 9 games this past year with a good QB. Great recruiting class for USF but no QB really, really, is strange. Not a flame.

We do have a QB this recruiting class. One that is ranked higher than Lynch,Carden and comparable to Bortles when they were signed. How good is he going to be who knows.
Newsflash our schools aren't getting that four star QB that's ready to make a difference in year one.
Our offensive line was atrocious last year and our WR position outside of Davis was weak. You put any QB in our league under those conditions and they are going to look bad

okorn did great as a true fresh (8-4 regular season) PJ had an unbelieveable freshmen year...

but usf has been amazing at recruiting everything except qb, literally anything but QB

your QB recruits has been not good.... your last years recruit is honeslty a WR/TE, your recruit for this year is a 2 star recruit, who's highlight reel wasnt even impressive...

and why cant USF get a 4star? tulsa had one, smu has one (who was once committed to houston), usf is the best recruiting team in the league..but you cant get a a highly touted JC, or highly rated 3star?...usf's QB situation was horrible, atleast 2 qbs should have been brought in.. and touted ones...
asanti almost signed with holtz (and his qb recruit at la tech is even more touted than your current at USF)...im confused why taggart has trouble bringin in qbs

mike white isnt the answer neither bench or flowers..i said it before, but to me a decent play caller and a qb is what is missing from USF to be competting for conference championships ...unfortately i dont see either coming for USF next season

Not interested in getting into a what if with you. USF will be 6-6 or better next year. Let's see what happens on the field.

(02-04-2015 07:04 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 07:00 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:15 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  Mike Rogers isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He is better off at Marsha, they don't know what the ACT or SAT is....just need a heart beat.

UCF isn't looking for him to find a cure for cancer, we just want him to be a "baller." He certainly fits that bill if he can qualify.

Future Backfield of UCF:

DB - Rashard Causey, Kyle Gibson
Safeties - Mike Rogers, Brandon Scott

That's a lot of talent in the backfield. Gonna need it in this pass happy league.

You are forgetting Chris Williams who flipped from bama on signing day last year

I thought he flipped from Auburn?

And I wont complain if he steals a spot in that starting rotation. I just haven't heard anything about him since we landed him.

I'm fairly certain it was Alabama. He was a 5.7 3 star. I remember O'Leary mentioned him and Kyle Gibson both as promising up and comers a few times this past season

According to our local reporter UC is number #1 at Espn,Rivals and Scout but number #2 at 247 sports, is this correct.

(02-04-2015 07:11 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 07:04 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 07:00 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:15 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  UCF isn't looking for him to find a cure for cancer, we just want him to be a "baller." He certainly fits that bill if he can qualify.

Future Backfield of UCF:

DB - Rashard Causey, Kyle Gibson
Safeties - Mike Rogers, Brandon Scott

That's a lot of talent in the backfield. Gonna need it in this pass happy league.

You are forgetting Chris Williams who flipped from bama on signing day last year

I thought he flipped from Auburn?

And I wont complain if he steals a spot in that starting rotation. I just haven't heard anything about him since we landed him.

I'm fairly certain it was Alabama. He was a 5.7 3 star. I remember O'Leary mentioned him and Kyle Gibson both as promising up and comers a few times this past season

It was Alabama. Saban was in his house a few days before signing day trying to get him to stick.

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(02-04-2015 03:17 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:01 PM)nosurf2day Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 02:52 PM)knightastic Wrote:  doesn't UCF have 20 spots?

why only use 17?

That is exactly my question, why not use all the scholarships unless they plan on giving them to a walk-on's.

While its National Signing Day...its also the beginning of the Signing PERIOD...as UCF has in recent years offered LOI's to others, even weeks after NSD.

Add the fact that more players are transferring each off-season (let alone 5th year graduate seniors), having an extra scholarship could come in handy...vs being forced to fill up your class on NSD...as most of those are 4-5 year commitments.

Those that are just starting to following recruiting probably don't know about late offers/signees/transfers, etc...let alone the walk-on or two that end up earning scholarships after a year or two (or three).

One is going to a preferred walk on and one is going to mike rogers

(02-04-2015 05:06 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 05:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 04:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 02:52 PM)knightastic Wrote:  doesn't UCF have 20 spots?

why only use 17?

The official word from O'Leary from todays press conference is that Demeitre Brim (LB Transfer from Virginia) and Michael Rogers will be 18 and 19. If you remember from last year, Michael Rogers hasn't been able to qualify academically because of his testing scores. He recently took the ACT (I think) again, and is being pushed to get into Summer A semester on campus.

Link for Demeitre Brim

Link for Mike Rogers

I know this doesn't count, and im not trying to set a precedent, but if you include those two in our class for this year, we have a score of 189.86 on the 247composite, good enough for #42 in this years rankings, behind TCU, and easily #1 amongst the G5. Add in Kahlil Lewis who we were legitimately expecting, and it gets even better, but if wishes were wings pigs could fly.

Good class when you put it in perspective.

Mike Rogers isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He is better off at Marsha, they don't know what the ACT or SAT is....just need a heart beat.

If he can qualify, we'd be idiots to ship him off anywhere. Just be patient, he can be a game changer.

His grades were there and he qualified for gt. He didn't test well

Usf is gonna be very dangerous and has the best athletes in the conference. Love it or hate it, it is what it is

(02-05-2015 11:07 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Usf is gonna be very dangerous and has the best athletes in the conference. Love it or hate it, it is what it is

you could have this argument the last 5 years

USF is just waiting on White to wake up. When he does, they will be top 25 caliber team.