Here is the story from the game.
Brown out scored Tacko 24-19 and according to the story scored most of his points going against Tacko while Tacko got most of his when Brown left to defend another player.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-s...92104.html

(01-25-2015 12:17 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Here is the story from the game.
Brown out scored Tacko 24-19 and according to the story scored most of his points going against Tacko while Tacko got most of his when Brown left to defend another player.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-s...92104.html

Blasphemy! Hes the second coming of Basketball jesus!!! He has to be... um... cause Georgetown, Kansas, the entire east coast of the US, the lakers and Phil Jackson all recruited him.
No way did some center who needs work outscored and outplayed him. In Tacko does UCiF trust!

(01-25-2015 12:30 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:17 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Here is the story from the game.
Brown out scored Tacko 24-19 and according to the story scored most of his points going against Tacko while Tacko got most of his when Brown left to defend another player.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-s...92104.html

Blasphemy! Hes the second coming of Basketball jesus!!! He has to be... um... cause Georgetown, Kansas, the entire east coast of the US, the lakers and Phil Jackson all recruited him.
No way did some mid level center who needs alot of work outscored and outplayed him. In Tacko does UCiF trust!

Well in his defense he did have 19 points and 15 rebounds and Zach while still young is the top center in the class of 2017. With that said neither is really ready to go vs top Division 1 centers and power forwards at the moment.

Zack is a good center but the kid needs work.... but hes a 2017 kid unlike Tacko who is a 2015. In 2 years, i expect zack to be a very good player and well beyond where Tacko is.

2017 is also not shaping up so far to be really strong with Centers.

For all the crap I give, I do like Tacko... what I dont like is 4 threads about a kid who hasnt played a single college game and the insistance that he has to be good because some upper level programs showed some interest. I know basketball. Been around it, played it and coached it most of my life. Tacko is a project and will be for years to come. He simply hasnt grown into his body and that cant be rushed. He moves like a kid who has to learn his body first and then the game. 2 years away form being meaningful, at a minimum.

(01-24-2015 12:50 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 11:12 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  Here's a brilliant idea, guys: If you don't want to read about Tacko Fall, then DON'T CLICK ON A THREAD ABOUT TACKO FALL! Bunch of whiners in this thread.

Well then we wouldnt be clicking on any threads

Then make your own thread about something else. This is an American Athletic Conference board and UCF is in the American. Signing a 7'6" recruit isn't something that UCF (or any program, for that matter) gets to do every day. If some of you don't want to discuss it, fine, but don't act surprised that there is more than one thread about it. If a mod wants to merge the threads, fine, but I don't see any harm in the fact that more than one person created a thread about this kid.

(01-25-2015 12:33 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:30 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:17 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Here is the story from the game.
Brown out scored Tacko 24-19 and according to the story scored most of his points going against Tacko while Tacko got most of his when Brown left to defend another player.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-s...92104.html

Blasphemy! Hes the second coming of Basketball jesus!!! He has to be... um... cause Georgetown, Kansas, the entire east coast of the US, the lakers and Phil Jackson all recruited him.
No way did some mid level center who needs alot of work outscored and outplayed him. In Tacko does UCiF trust!

Well in his defense he did have 19 points and 15 rebounds and Zach while still young is the top center in the class of 2017. With that said neither is really ready to go vs top Division 1 centers and power forwards at the moment.

Whether Brown was directly guarding Tacko or not, the stats by Tacko are pretty solid. As the article states, Tacko also had 7 blocked shots to go along with the 19 points and 15 rebounds. I realize there's a huge leap between playing in high school and playing for a team in the American Athletic Conference; no question about that. But I don't understand some of you guys who think that Tacko can't at least be a decent rebounder and shot blocker once he gets to UCF. What is your reasoning behind that? Do you know something that UCF's coaching staff doesn't know?

(01-25-2015 12:33 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:30 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:17 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Here is the story from the game.
Brown out scored Tacko 24-19 and according to the story scored most of his points going against Tacko while Tacko got most of his when Brown left to defend another player.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-s...92104.html

Blasphemy! Hes the second coming of Basketball jesus!!! He has to be... um... cause Georgetown, Kansas, the entire east coast of the US, the lakers and Phil Jackson all recruited him.
No way did some mid level center who needs alot of work outscored and outplayed him. In Tacko does UCiF trust!

Well in his defense he did have 19 points and 15 rebounds and Zach while still young is the top center in the class of 2017. With that said neither is really ready to go vs top Division 1 centers and power forwards at the moment.

Good news for UCF/Tacko is that in most of UCF's 32-34 games next year, UCF won't face most of the Top Center/PF's in the country...as UCF just needs Tacko to have some impact on their games (especially on the defensive side).

Still think Tacko's biggest impact will be having less guards driving the lane, which will change opposing team's strategy (i.e. less higher percentage shots down low and more lower percentage shots from the outside).

(01-25-2015 02:23 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:33 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:30 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:17 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Here is the story from the game.
Brown out scored Tacko 24-19 and according to the story scored most of his points going against Tacko while Tacko got most of his when Brown left to defend another player.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-s...92104.html

Blasphemy! Hes the second coming of Basketball jesus!!! He has to be... um... cause Georgetown, Kansas, the entire east coast of the US, the lakers and Phil Jackson all recruited him.
No way did some mid level center who needs alot of work outscored and outplayed him. In Tacko does UCiF trust!

Well in his defense he did have 19 points and 15 rebounds and Zach while still young is the top center in the class of 2017. With that said neither is really ready to go vs top Division 1 centers and power forwards at the moment.

Whether Brown was directly guarding Tacko or not, the stats by Tacko are pretty solid. As the article states, Tacko also had 7 blocked shots to go along with the 19 points and 15 rebounds. I realize there's a huge leap between playing in high school and playing for a team in the American Athletic Conference; no question about that. But I don't understand some of you guys who think that Tacko can't at least be a decent rebounder and shot blocker once he gets to UCF. What is your reasoning behind that? Do you know something that UCF's coaching staff doesn't know?

You see, youre trying to make this about his critics vs UCF coaches and thats not the case. I truly believe the coaches are not homers and know just how much of a project Tacko is.
Tacko wont be playing against High School kids anymore. The majority of his blocks and plays come against kids who wont ever step on the court vs D1 play, let alone AAC level ball.

I think his lack of foot speed and being out of position will make him rather ineeffective for a couple years. On the good side, its something that can be cleaned up as he matures and gets used to his body and how to move it within the game. The kid hasnt played much so hes still in the thinking phase instead of the instinctive reaction phase... add that into the fact that his body has changed dramatically over the last 4-5 years and you get a kid whos gonna look a little lost out there.

The criticism isnt on tacko... its on some of your fans that have started multiple threads on a 3 star recruit who hasnt played a minute of college ball. Its rather homerish and the reason hes catching some flack.

On a side note, I like the kids story. Its honestly the best part about him.

A few things on this having seeing Zack in action quite a few times. I will say this.
1. Tacko because of his height alone will block a few shots and get some rebounds
2. The problem will be that he will be going against quicker and more physical 6'8 + guys on a daily basis. The fact that Zack was taking him off the dribble is not a good sign defensively. Meaning that UCF will have to go zone when he is in there.

I don't believe he will be a bust but in conference games he will be a 5 point, 5 rebounds at best. Not bad for a freshmen but also not the wonder that many expect and certainly not deserving of all these threads about him started on this board.

(01-25-2015 10:01 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I don't believe he will be a bust but in conference games he will be a 5 point, 5 rebounds at best. Not bad for a freshmen but also not the wonder that many expect and certainly not deserving of all these threads about him started on this board.

Maybe...maybe not.

Plus, most educated UCF Hoop fans generally look at the big picture, i.e. what will the team be 2-3 years down the road with full scholarship levels...as the instant quick fix is not the way to build a program for the long-haul...and thats where UCF's Coach Jones gets some credit..as he is still focusing most of his future classes on HS recruits.

(01-25-2015 10:10 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 10:01 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I don't believe he will be a bust but in conference games he will be a 5 point, 5 rebounds at best. Not bad for a freshmen but also not the wonder that many expect and certainly not deserving of all these threads about him started on this board.

Maybe...maybe not.

Plus, most educated UCF Hoop fans generally look at the big picture, i.e. what will the team be 2-3 years down the road with full scholarship levels...as the instant quick fix is not the way to build a program for the long-haul...and thats where UCF's Coach Jones gets some credit..as he is still focusing most of his future classes on HS recruits.

But most of the fans are not efucated da bout the time that it takes to build a program. They will not wait 2-4 years to see results. A sprinkle of transfers that can make you at least competitive while you build a base buys you the time for the youngsters to grow and produce.

As it has been said by many, Tacko is not the issue, the issue is ALL the threads on this board about fans pimping this kid as if he is the best player in the land.

Let's stop posting threads about this kid and let him grow and let his game in college speak for him.

(01-25-2015 10:26 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 10:10 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 10:01 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I don't believe he will be a bust but in conference games he will be a 5 point, 5 rebounds at best. Not bad for a freshmen but also not the wonder that many expect and certainly not deserving of all these threads about him started on this board.

Maybe...maybe not.

Plus, most educated UCF Hoop fans generally look at the big picture, i.e. what will the team be 2-3 years down the road with full scholarship levels...as the instant quick fix is not the way to build a program for the long-haul...and thats where UCF's Coach Jones gets some credit..as he is still focusing most of his future classes on HS recruits.

But most of the fans are not efucated da bout the time that it takes to build a program. They will not wait 2-4 years to see results. A sprinkle of transfers that can make you at least competitive while you build a base buys you the time for the youngsters to grow and produce.

Actually, most educated UCF Hoop fans I know are season tix holders...and they know (most are UCF Football season tix holders) the advantages of building up a program the right way, especially when scholarships have been reduced (i.e. not worth it focusing mostly on short cuts).

Actually, DJ is using a few scholarships on transfers/JUCO's as former Tennessee F AJ Davis will have 3 years of eligibility after redshirting this year while Efianayi (early signee) is a very good JUCO scorer.

The last of 3 scholarships Coach Jones used last year (late signee of JUCO Shaheed Davis while Taylor and Henriquez were early signees and obviously already paying off big time) hasn't really panned out.

I always hear the same thing from UCF fans about their basketball team. In some many blank years we are going to be good but this never happens. You have so much top 100 talent in Florida but never can keep it home. Pookie was right in your backyard

(01-25-2015 10:40 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  I always here the same thing from UCF fans about their basketball team. In some many blank years we are going to be good but this never happens. You have so much top 100 talent in Florida but never can keep it home. Pookie was right in your backyard

Actually, that's what Donnie jones has been doing pretty well of late in keeping some good/very good in-state and local talent home...(signing Taylor, Henriquez, McBride and now Brown, McSpadden, Fall and Efianayi).

Obviously UCF doesn't have the long hoop tradition of others (like Memphis), plus, certain players will always want to "go away to school" vs staying home.

UCF has had some "good teams" in the past and hopefully, when back at full scholarship strength, they will again soon.

(01-25-2015 10:40 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  I always hear the same thing from UCF fans about their basketball team. In some many blank years we are going to be good but this never happens. You have so much top 100 talent in Florida but never can keep it home. Pookie was right in your backyard

You need to let go of your hate for UCF. It will give you cancer someday, and that would be just.............terrible.*

(01-25-2015 01:34 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 10:40 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  I always hear the same thing from UCF fans about their basketball team. In some many blank years we are going to be good but this never happens. You have so much top 100 talent in Florida but never can keep it home. Pookie was right in your backyard

You need to let go of your hate for UCF. It will give you cancer someday, and that would be just.............terrible.*

Hating on UCF? Why? What is there to hate?

(01-25-2015 01:49 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:34 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 10:40 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  I always hear the same thing from UCF fans about their basketball team. In some many blank years we are going to be good but this never happens. You have so much top 100 talent in Florida but never can keep it home. Pookie was right in your backyard

You need to let go of your hate for UCF. It will give you cancer someday, and that would be just.............terrible.*

Hating on UCF? Why? What is there to hate?

Keep it secret, keep it safe..........

(01-25-2015 09:53 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:23 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:33 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:30 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:17 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Here is the story from the game.
Brown out scored Tacko 24-19 and according to the story scored most of his points going against Tacko while Tacko got most of his when Brown left to defend another player.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-s...92104.html

Blasphemy! Hes the second coming of Basketball jesus!!! He has to be... um... cause Georgetown, Kansas, the entire east coast of the US, the lakers and Phil Jackson all recruited him.
No way did some mid level center who needs alot of work outscored and outplayed him. In Tacko does UCiF trust!

Well in his defense he did have 19 points and 15 rebounds and Zach while still young is the top center in the class of 2017. With that said neither is really ready to go vs top Division 1 centers and power forwards at the moment.

Whether Brown was directly guarding Tacko or not, the stats by Tacko are pretty solid. As the article states, Tacko also had 7 blocked shots to go along with the 19 points and 15 rebounds. I realize there's a huge leap between playing in high school and playing for a team in the American Athletic Conference; no question about that. But I don't understand some of you guys who think that Tacko can't at least be a decent rebounder and shot blocker once he gets to UCF. What is your reasoning behind that? Do you know something that UCF's coaching staff doesn't know?

You see, youre trying to make this about his critics vs UCF coaches and thats not the case. I truly believe the coaches are not homers and know just how much of a project Tacko is.
Tacko wont be playing against High School kids anymore. The majority of his blocks and plays come against kids who wont ever step on the court vs D1 play, let alone AAC level ball.

I think his lack of foot speed and being out of position will make him rather ineeffective for a couple years. On the good side, its something that can be cleaned up as he matures and gets used to his body and how to move it within the game. The kid hasnt played much so hes still in the thinking phase instead of the instinctive reaction phase... add that into the fact that his body has changed dramatically over the last 4-5 years and you get a kid whos gonna look a little lost out there.

The criticism isnt on tacko... its on some of your fans that have started multiple threads on a 3 star recruit who hasnt played a minute of college ball. Its rather homerish and the reason hes catching some flack.

On a side note, I like the kids story. Its honestly the best part about him.

I can't speak for other UCF fans who have started other threads. I haven't seen all of the threads. I don't come to NCAAbbs as often as I used to, so there's a lot here I don't get to read.

Tacko is going to have a learning curve, obviously, after only playing organized basketball for a couple of years. All I'm saying is with that height, he's going to get a decent amount of rebounds and blocked shots even if he doesn't become a star player.

It will be interesting to see if we have Justin McBride, our 6'10" 325-lb starting center, play alongside Tacko at times next season. It couldn't hurt for Tacko to go up against a big physical player like McBride in practice.

I doubt you will see both at the same time very often. While they will give you height and width for rebounding, they will be a liability in the running game. Also I think you will see Tacko fouling quite a bit early in his career.

Tacko got another mention on cbs today. just need to add this bit of Tacko info....